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post #2041 of 3313

It's going to be hard picking between HD800 and the Fostex for electronic music now. The HD800 flat out beat the Hifiman and Audeze planars for trance, deep house, hip hop....just about everything. 

 

How does the comfort of the Fostex compare to HD800? Also, are the mids on the TH-600/TH-900 recessed a bit too much?

post #2042 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

It's going to be hard picking between HD800 and the Fostex for electronic music now. The HD800 flat out beat the Hifiman and Audeze planars for trance, deep house, hip hop....just about everything. 

How does the comfort of the Fostex compare to HD800? Also, are the mids on the TH-600/TH-900 recessed a bit too much?

I am very or picky about the headphone comfort.

Hd800 and th900 are both equally comfortable. If I had to live with one I will pick HD800 due to the open design.

Open headphones give me more air circulation and doesn't get warm as closed one.

Don't get me wrong TH900 doesn't trap any heat, and its doesnt get warm like audiotechnicas.

Why not get both? smily_headphones1.gif
post #2043 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post


I am very or picky about the headphone comfort.

Hd800 and th900 are both equally comfortable. If I had to live with one I will pick HD800 due to the open design.

Open headphones give me more air circulation and doesn't get warm as closed one.

Don't get me wrong TH900 doesn't trap any heat, and its doesnt get warm like audiotechnicas.

Why not get both? smily_headphones1.gif

 

LOL That is my ultimate plan. One open and one closed. It's just that with all the money spent on new DAC/controller and monitors, I can't get them both at the same time. I'll have to get them one after another. On top of that, I want another pair of monitors for my desktop. So which one to get first I suppose.

 

I too have gotten quite picky about the comfort nowadays. Not willing to sacrifice at all in any of the categories. How's the clamping force on TH-900. I find that the D2000s sometimes slip off I'm leaning while watching something on the bed for example. Regardless, all of these are more comfortable than Audeze or Hifiman. I put on a Hifiman yesterday after a year and immediately knew I made the right decision selling my HE-500. The comfort alone makes planars a no go this time around.

 

From my time with HD800, I don't think they would slip off had I titled my head.

post #2044 of 3313
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post

The mad dogs were too bass light with bass that didn't extend very far and bass impact somewhat weak. The mad dogs of have thicker , lusher sounding mids than the TH600 which in comparison sounds thin. I wouldn't say the TH600s mids are recessed. They just sound thinner than orthos in comparison.

About recessed mids...

I see you own/owned the Vsonic GR07BE, do you perceive the mids on the Vsonics as recessed mids?

Is it more or less recessed on the TH600?

 

I perceive the mids on the gr07be to be SLIGHTLY recessed, 96/97% of 100% volume I'd like it to be, of course its more perceivable on rock/indie/vocal/acoustic/pop... kind of music but I still find it recessed.

 

If its not the Vsonic gr07be kinda of recessed but just a part of the midrange spectrum more or less prominent which part is it?


Edited by ForceMajeure - 3/30/14 at 4:22pm
post #2045 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

It's going to be hard picking between HD800 and the Fostex for electronic music now. The HD800 flat out beat the Hifiman and Audeze planars for trance, deep house, hip hop....just about everything. 

 

How does the comfort of the Fostex compare to HD800? Also, are the mids on the TH-600/TH-900 recessed a bit too much?

 

If it weren't for that veiled/muffled sound, I think I'd prefer the the LCD-2.2 over the HD800 for deep-house and hip hop, but I see where you're coming from. A properly amped HD800 is a thing of beauty.

 

Having said that, the Fostex TH cans remain my favourites for bassy music, especially the dubbier genres that like that bit of reverb in the sub-bass, while still retaining open-headphone levels of airiness. They're the only cans that give me that sub-like punch in the gut when it comes to bass response. No idea how Fostex does it.

 

Comfort wise, the TH600/900 and HD800 are at the top. Both equally comfortable on my head. The HD-800 probably has a slight edge, simply because their pads can breathe a bit more in very warm weather and it's a few grams lighter. The open vs closed thing doesn't really play a part with comfort, me thinks.

 

As for mid-range "recession", it really depends on the listener. Some aren't that bothered by it, some can't live with it, and some love it. I actually find very forward higher/upper mids rather offensive and tiring, tbh - like with the LCD-XC I auditioned some months ago - but I've noticed that many people that listen to geezer rock bands and chick-with-guitar music tend to prefer that sort of presentation. Horses for courses, as they say. Amplification plays a part, obviously.


Edited by kurochin - 3/30/14 at 4:32pm
post #2046 of 3313
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Originally Posted by kurochin View Post
 

 

If it weren't for that veiled/muffled sound, I think I'd prefer the the LCD-2.2 over the HD800 for deep-house and hip hop, but I see where you're coming from. A properly amped HD800 is a thing of beauty.

 

Having said that, the Fostex TH cans remain my favourites for bassy music, especially the dubbier genres that like that bit of reverb in the sub-bass, while still retaining open-headphone levels of airiness. They're the only cans that give me that sub-like punch in the gut when it comes to bass response. No idea how Fostex does it.

 

Comfort wise, the TH600/900 and HD800 are at the top. Both equally comfortable on my head. The HD-800 probably has a slight edge, simply because their pads can breathe a bit more in very warm weather and it's a few grams lighter. The open vs closed thing doesn't really play a part with comfort, me thinks.

 

As for mid-range "recession", it really depends on the listener. Some aren't that bothered by it, some can't live with it, and some love it. I actually find very forward higher/upper mids rather offensive and tiring, tbh - like with the LCD-XC I auditioned some months ago - but I've noticed that many people that listen to geezer rock bands and chick-with-guitar music tend to prefer that sort of presentation. Horses for courses, as they say. Amplification plays a part, obviously.

 

I actually preferred the LCD-2 for electronic stuff over LCD-3 and HE-500. Never fatiguing and had a nice slam. Personally, I'd have recessed mids (or slightly held back) over warm stuff on a headphone. Too much mids and vocals become fatiguing and prevent me from being able to listen to the room ambience. It sucks out the air and life out on headphones...sometimes like my Marantz stuff. Although the same thing is reversed on speakers...it's a bit of a weird thing I got going on.:D

post #2047 of 3313
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Originally Posted by ForceMajeure View Post
 

About recessed mids...

I see you own/owned the Vsonic GR07BE, do you perceive the mids on the Vsonics as recessed mids?

Is it more or less recessed on the TH600?

 

I perceive the mids on the gr07be to be SLIGHTLY recessed, 96/97% of 100% volume I'd like it to be, of course its more perceivable on rock/indie/vocal/acoustic/pop... kind of music but I still find it recessed.

 

If its not the Vsonic gr07be kinda of recessed but just a part of the midrange spectrum more or less prominent which part is it?

I wouldn't say the mids are recessed on the TH600s. They are as forward as my HE500s or my HD600s. Its just that the TH600s sound a bit thinner in comparison or you could say the HE500 and the HD600s mids are more thicker and lush

post #2048 of 3313
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post
 

I wouldn't say the mids are recessed on the TH600s. They are as forward as my HE500s or my HD600s. Its just that the TH600s sound a bit thinner in comparison or you could say the HE500 and the HD600s mids are more thicker and lush

Thanks,

Did you find the mids recessed on the Vsonics?

 

I am on the fence right now.

My current closed headphone is the Sony mdr7520, really liking them but I am looking for something less dark with a bit of sparkle in the treble and bigger soundstage, at least the same impact-full bass response, a better layering .

I think that this one could do the trick, but I really don't want to be disappointed,

oh boy I didn't know it would be so difficult to upgrade a closed headphone from an already very good headphone. tough decision.

 

Does someone here own the th600 and the 7520 and could tell me what their differences how different are the bass, mids, treble between the two?

How different is the overall sound presentation between one an the other?

post #2049 of 3313
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Originally Posted by ForceMajeure View Post

Thanks,
Did you find the mids recessed on the Vsonics?

I am on the fence right now.
My current closed headphone is the Sony mdr7520, really liking them but I am looking for something less dark with a bit of sparkle in the treble and bigger soundstage, at least the same impact-full bass response, a better layering .
I think that this one could do the trick, but I really don't want to be disappointed,
oh boy I didn't know it would be so difficult to upgrade a closed headphone from an already very good headphone. tough decision.

Does someone here own the th600 and the 7520 and could tell me what their differences how different are the bass, mids, treble between the two?
How different is the overall sound presentation between one an the other?

Yes the vsonics are a touch recessed in the mids
post #2050 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

 

I actually preferred the LCD-2 for electronic stuff over LCD-3 and HE-500. Never fatiguing and had a nice slam. Personally, I'd have recessed mids (or slightly held back) over warm stuff on a headphone. Too much mids and vocals become fatiguing and prevent me from being able to listen to the room ambience. It sucks out the air and life out on headphones...sometimes like my Marantz stuff. Although the same thing is reversed on speakers...it's a bit of a weird thing I got going on.:D


100% spot on about prominent mids.

post #2051 of 3313
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post


Yes the vsonics are a touch recessed in the mids

Thanks.

post #2052 of 3313
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Originally Posted by DemonFox View Post
 

 

Easy answer is Alpha pads. Quick easy fit and does a great job not getting in the way of the house sound 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

:evil:

 

hey, where can i get those without breaking my wallet? :p

my stock pads are showing signs of wear and tear

post #2053 of 3313
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Originally Posted by DemonFox View Post
 

 

Easy answer is Alpha pads. Quick easy fit and does a great job not getting in the way of the house sound 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

:evil:

 

hey, where can i get those without breaking my wallet? :p

my stock pads are showing signs of wear and tear

 

 

Yah, here you go 

 

https://mrspeakers.com/product/alpha-pads-genuine-lamb-leather/

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

:evil:

post #2054 of 3313

I just joined the club by ordering a pair, and I'm quite excited. :)

 

I'm wondering what portable solutions owners are currently using to drive these?  I have a CLAS-db/RX Mk3 stack, and a HiFi-M8 which I figure will both do them justice.

 

Also, has anyone here recabled the TH600s for balanced use?

post #2055 of 3313
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Originally Posted by ButtUglyJeff View Post
 

Also, has anyone here recabled the TH600s for balanced use?

 

Hi! I don't think you have to recable them, as they have four wires to the plug. I plan to solder a balanced plug onto it as soon as I make a decision between the Centrance Hifi M8 and the RSA Intruder.

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