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post #2011 of 3313

Fostex took steps to make them less closed-sounding, which is why they leak a bit more than real closed headphones do: the back simply has openings. So while I can't comment on the HE500 the relatively wide soundstage of the TH600 was obviously a design goal and not every headphone marketed as open must automatically have a wider soundstage...

post #2012 of 3313
Ditto, since I bought the TH-600s my HE-500 have been sitting on the shelf.
post #2013 of 3313

Thanks, folks...I feel better (validated?) about my preference of the TH600 vs the HE-500 :)

 

Any thoughts on the Fiio E17?  I was under the impression that gain should only be used when the standard volume doesn't get the 'phones quite loud enough.  If the volume otherwise gets loud enough for you, then leave the gain at 0db and call it good.  Does this seem right?

post #2014 of 3313

How is the synergy when paired with o2+odac ?

post #2015 of 3313
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Thanks, folks...I feel better (validated?) about my preference of the TH600 vs the HE-500 :)

 

Any thoughts on the Fiio E17?  I was under the impression that gain should only be used when the standard volume doesn't get the 'phones quite loud enough.  If the volume otherwise gets loud enough for you, then leave the gain at 0db and call it good.  Does this seem right?

 

Yes. Increased gain increases the noise level. Most amps work best when volume is set between around 9 and 3 o'clock, i.e. around the middle of the range, keeping distance from either end.

post #2016 of 3313
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So.........received my TH600's a bit over a week ago.  Listened to them right away, and then found out (after a day or two) that my pre-amp interface was EQ'd for my T50RP headphones.  Whoops! ;)

 

Anyhow, I burned them in for about 4 days straight, and have subsequently been listening this week.  To be honest, I've gone both ways on them: absolutely LOVING them on one day, and then not being so sure the next day.  It's very odd, and I can't say I've ever experienced this with headphones or IEMs.  Perhaps related to the music I'm listening to at the time?  Perhaps a head cold?  I'm not sure...but the "dislike times" I have usually involves the high-bass (or low-mids) sounding "muddy" to me.  Certainly not always, but it's like if the song tends that way, then these headphones accentuate it....at least to my ears.  On a (very) positive note, the sub-bass and highs are amazing -- really.  I've never heard sub-bass like this, and the highs are just perfect for me...especially since I tend toward having a low-tolerance for any sibilance whatsoever.

 

Two questions:

 

1)  I'm using the Fiio E17 as my desktop amp/dac.  I currently have no EQ on these (which seems fine), and I've been fooling around with the +6 or +12db gain settings.  Any recommendations on using gain or not?  I understand gain very well with soundboards, but I guess I don't with headphone amps...as to whether or not it's advantageous to use.  Maybe just personal pref?

 

2)  I heard my co-workers HE 500's today, and honestly....I really prefer the TH600's.  Maybe I don't like open headphones or something.  Am I crazy?

 

Thanks for reading.

 

lol If you like the TH600's that can make you kinda crazy and welcome to the club ;) The E17 is a decent amp with lots to love but it doesn't pair that well with the TH600. The E11 does fairly well actually. I've used my e11 with the Denon 2/5/7K and TH600 and its by no means perfect but it does a great job and gives them that need kick that brings the Th600 alive. They are very scaleable so try as many amps as you can until you find the right fit. The Alo audio Pan AM was probably one of if not the best pairing I've had with the 600's. It just worked. It didn't have the overall bass quality as the SR-71a but had less sparkle and just worked very well together. Plus of course tube rolling is always a blast ;) 

 

I need to spend more time with the HE500's but you definitely need to have the right gear in order to enjoy them. They are two totally different pieces so its easy to love or hate the other. I'm sure lot of HE500 owners feel the same way about TH600's ;) 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

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post #2017 of 3313
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lol If you like the TH600's that can make you kinda crazy and welcome to the club wink.gif The E17 is a decent amp with lots to love but it doesn't pair that well with the TH600. The E11 does fairly well actually. I've used my e11 with the Denon 2/5/7K and TH600 and its by no means perfect but it does a great job and gives them that need kick that brings the Th600 alive. They are very scaleable so try as many amps as you can until you find the right fit. The Alo audio Pan AM was probably one of if not the best pairing I've had with the 600's. It just worked. It didn't have the overall bass quality as the SR-71a but had less sparkle and just worked very well together. Plus of course tube rolling is always a blast wink.gif 

I need to spend more time with the HE500's but you definitely need to have the right gear in order to enjoy them. They are two totally different pieces so its easy to love or hate the other. I'm sure lot of HE500 owners feel the same way about TH600's wink.gif 


Thanks,


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Congrats on the post. I enjoy my HE500 for different music so it's genre dependent. The TH600 kills the HE500 for EDM IMO. The HE500 is a better all rounder but needs lots of power, get the mini-x or Topping TP60 if you're on a budget
post #2018 of 3313
What other pads work well with the TH600s? I'm really enjoying them with the HM5 pads. Will be trying them with the HE500 pleathers but I can't see how that would be good
post #2019 of 3313
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What other pads work well with the TH600s? I'm really enjoying them with the HM5 pads. Will be trying them with the HE500 pleathers but I can't see how that would be good

 

Easy answer is Alpha pads. Quick easy fit and does a great job not getting in the way of the house sound 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

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post #2020 of 3313
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Originally Posted by DemonFox View Post

lol If you like the TH600's that can make you kinda crazy and welcome to the club wink.gif The E17 is a decent amp with lots to love but it doesn't pair that well with the TH600. The E11 does fairly well actually. I've used my e11 with the Denon 2/5/7K and TH600 and its by no means perfect but it does a great job and gives them that need kick that brings the Th600 alive. They are very scaleable so try as many amps as you can until you find the right fit. The Alo audio Pan AM was probably one of if not the best pairing I've had with the 600's. It just worked. It didn't have the overall bass quality as the SR-71a but had less sparkle and just worked very well together. Plus of course tube rolling is always a blast wink.gif 

I need to spend more time with the HE500's but you definitely need to have the right gear in order to enjoy them. They are two totally different pieces so its easy to love or hate the other. I'm sure lot of HE500 owners feel the same way about TH600's wink.gif 


Thanks,


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1500 posts, woot!!! beerchug.gif
Congrats on the post. I enjoy my HE500 for different music so it's genre dependent. The TH600 kills the HE500 for EDM IMO. The HE500 is a better all rounder but needs lots of power, get the mini-x or Topping TP60 if you're on a budget

 

 

Thanks! Happy I finally made it! Thats a fair assessment, and I think most would agree with that. I actually like the TH600 more than my LCD 2's which is why I sold my LCD 2's. Just felt like they were more livelier and had better sound separation and soundstage. More soundstage tho now that I think about it but there was a clear difference between the two when I AB them. Then I listened to the LCD-X and was blown away so now I'm thinking about selling my TH600 and a few other things to make room for those are maybe the New HE-560's.

 

Also another cheap amp with tons of power is the Hifiman EF2A. That things had almost to much power but I love its sound. For the money it can do a great job and allow some fun tube rolling if thats your thing.

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

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post #2021 of 3313
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What other pads work well with the TH600s? I'm really enjoying them with the HM5 pads. Will be trying them with the HE500 pleathers but I can't see how that would be good


Jibzilla put Stax 002 pads on his and said they were the best yet.  I'm debating spending the $160 for a pair of the pads to try on my TH900's.  Decisions, decisions................first world problems, I know. 

post #2022 of 3313

$160 for pads is a little extreme

post #2023 of 3313
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What other pads work well with the TH600s? I'm really enjoying them with the HM5 pads. Will be trying them with the HE500 pleathers but I can't see how that would be good

 

So...I just swapped my HM5 pads onto my TH600s.......and I think I like it too!  Definitely more comfortable (the HM5 pads are *really* squishy!), external sound bleed seems to be reduced, and it seems to me that the low-mids are more punchy.  Downside?  The ear hole is smaller on the HM5 pads, which may have reduced the soundstage slightly.  It's difficult to say.  Also, the HM5 pads appear to seal a bit better, so I'm guessing some ear sweat will be the result ;)  Lastly, the stock Fostex pads made a slight noise when they squished -- like it's cheap foam inside -- and the HM5 pads don't do that.  Nice!

 

I'm gonna roll with these pads for the foreseeable future.  I dig 'em so far :)

post #2024 of 3313
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$160 for pads is a little extreme


Agreed.  Which is why I haven't bought. 

post #2025 of 3313

Going to try the TH-600s tomorrow at the Toronto meet...finally.

 

On a side note, I just pulled out my D2000s after 3 weeks of exclusively using my Mackie HR824, just to get a fresh idea for the D2000 for comparing them with Fostex. Never before have the D2000's felt so bass light LOL. Took me two hours to hear the bass again. Still trying to get adjusted and trick my brain to "feeling" the sub bass.

 

I'm happy to hear all the comments about TH-600 being preferred over HE-500 for EDM. I liked the HE-500 for EDM but it certainly could've been better.

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