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post #1261 of 2351
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Originally Posted by designbykai View Post


How's the T90? Was disappointed with T70 but keep reading good things about T90 and it sounds like it has decent bass extension and MIDs..I wonder if it'd make a good openback complement to th600? Are they different enough? I do love my beyers..
Still waiting on my th600 from Japan, they were shipped like a week late, on Saturday. Its killing me

 

Very different. T90 has good resolution, very forward treble, nice mids, good bass, but nothing like the TH600 bass - more of a mid bass.  Music sounded clear, crisp, balanced, but I wasn't feeling it, whereas as I had to bop and tap my foot with the TH600. The funny thing is I was testing the T90 specifically for classical, which is probably the genre it does best, but I still preferred the 600 for classical! And then it went and excelled in jazz and electronic and well, everything I threw at it.  I'm very impressed.

post #1262 of 2351
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post

Very different. T90 has good resolution, very forward treble, nice mids, good bass, but nothing like the TH600 bass - more of a mid bass.  Music sounded clear, crisp, balanced, but I wasn't feeling it, whereas as I had to bop and tap my foot with the TH600. The funny thing is I was testing the T90 specifically for classical, which is probably the genre it does best, but I still preferred the 600 for classical! And then it went and excelled in jazz and electronic and well, everything I threw at it.  I'm very impressed.
Thanks, interesting and good to hear. Sounds like they do have some similarities to t70 then as you'd expect with similar tesla drivers. T70 were awesome for classical & jazz but not much else from memory;great resolution indeed but also cold/harsh sounding.
Anyways will look into an open complement day perhaps, but sounds like the fostexs are open-like with their soundstage anyway.
post #1263 of 2351
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Originally Posted by designbykai View Post

Thanks, interesting and good to hear. Sounds like they do have some similarities to t70 then as you'd expect with similar tesla drivers. T70 were awesome for classical & jazz but not much else from memory;great resolution indeed but also cold/harsh sounding.
Anyways will look into an open complement day perhaps, but sounds like the fostexs are open-like with their soundstage anyway.
Yes, actually I don't generally enjoy closed cans, my L1 is labeled "semi-open" and yet it sounds mostly closed and sometimes congested to me. But the 600 sounded in no way closed to me, if I was blindfolded I could have been tricked into thinking they were open. Though I probably would have thought they were planar with that sub bass!
post #1264 of 2351
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Very different. T90 has good resolution, very forward treble, nice mids, good bass, but nothing like the TH600 bass - more of a mid bass.  Music sounded clear, crisp, balanced, but I wasn't feeling it, whereas as I had to bop and tap my foot with the TH600. The funny thing is I was testing the T90 specifically for classical, which is probably the genre it does best, but I still preferred the 600 for classical! And then it went and excelled in jazz and electronic and well, everything I threw at it.  I'm very impressed.

 

 

How's the soundstage on the TH600 vs the T90?

post #1265 of 2351
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post

Did some testing today...man am I in love with the TH600. Having never heard the Dx000 series, I can now understand why people love them so much. The 600 or 900 will definitely be my next purchase -- still need to hear the 900 though.




I have both the T90 and TH600 and I have not listened to my T90 in 3 weeks.
I prefer the TH600 for pop, RnB and IDM which I have been listening to a lot lately.
post #1266 of 2351
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To me the T1 posed no upgrade in quality compared to the T90 , only a different perspective of less intimate and slightly distant and larger, but treble more pronounced so its more of a sonic preference.
I would assume a similar scenario applies here where a newer unit 600 reaches near a level of a fromer 900 model flagship.

Why would it be former, the 900 is still the flagship. And i havent heard T90 but the T1 is anything but distant or bright. Its one of the best headphones ive heard and is very musical yet still close to neutral
post #1267 of 2351
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How's the soundstage on the TH600 vs the T90?
Chico, without doing some surround gaming with them, I couldn't describe the soundstage like you can. The best I can say is that the 600 sounded more open while the T90 sounded more airy. I think that having powerful sub bass with present treble and slightly recessed mids is partly what makes the 600 sound wide open. It almost forms a hollow sound -- but that's the wrong word because it's not a negative thing in the least.
post #1268 of 2351
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Chico, without doing some surround gaming with them, I couldn't describe the soundstage like you can. The best I can say is that the 600 sounded more open while the T90 sounded more airy. I think that having powerful sub bass with present treble and slightly recessed mids is partly what makes the 600 sound wide open. It almost forms a hollow sound -- but that's the wrong word because it's not a negative thing in the least.

 

Thanks.  I think I know what your saying.

post #1269 of 2351
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Very different. T90 has good resolution, very forward treble, nice mids, good bass, but nothing like the TH600 bass - more of a mid bass.  Music sounded clear, crisp, balanced, but I wasn't feeling it, whereas as I had to bop and tap my foot with the TH600. The funny thing is I was testing the T90 specifically for classical, which is probably the genre it does best, but I still preferred the 600 for classical! And then it went and excelled in jazz and electronic and well, everything I threw at it.  I'm very impressed.

 

On what amp did you try both?

post #1270 of 2351
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

 

On what amp did you try both?

 

My Project Starlight

post #1271 of 2351
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Originally Posted by Tony1110 View Post

There should be a ban on mentioning the TH-900 in the TH-600 thread. Please people, don't tempt me to buy them :-)

 

LOL. Don't worry the improvement is not that significant. And again it really depends on the type of music you are listening. I'll still get the TH900 one day because of its smoothness and more refined feeling. but even the TH600 is not aggressive enough for rock music for me. TH600 is a very good all rounder though, for rock music i still prefer my UE11. But in the end TH600 is a very good headphone (at least for me its def one of the best i've ever heard).

post #1272 of 2351
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Originally Posted by Tony1110 View Post

There should be a ban on mentioning the TH-900 in the TH-600 thread. Please people, don't tempt me to buy them :-)

 

Having "A-B ing" the 900 and 600 for closed to 2 hours yesterday evening at Jaben SG, to my ears and my music preference, I'll go for TH600 most of the time.

 

Here are my short finding.

Bass:

The 900 hits harder and deeper, with more sub-bass quality.

The 600 has more mid-bass and rumble, which sounds like it has more bass present.

For rock music, I'll go for TH600 coz I'll start to toe-tapping and head-nodding once the music start.

I found the 900 bass to be too clean and cynical, and can be perceived as lack emotion.

 

Mid:

They are both recessed, compared to the mids from LCD2/3, although coloured, managed to make me close my eyes and imagine the singer sings in front of me.

The difference between the 900 and 600 are in the lower mid and upper mid.

The 900 has more pronounce upper mid and lacking lower mid, which make it has more taller soundstage.

It also makes female vocals like Colbie Cailat and Taylor Swift to sound thinner and less engaging, and in some cases, almost "shouty".

The 600 on the other hand has more lower mid.

I prefer the female vocals on the 600 as their songs have the added "weight" that were missing from the 900.

On both phones, male vocals such as Michael Buble and Jack Johnson are not that affected, but if I were to listen to lots of female vocals, I'll choose the 600.

 

Treble:

This is where the 900 trounced the 600, IMHO that is.

900 has a very smooth, extended yet very detail treble.

Almost like comparing Focal Electra speakers which use Beryllium tweeter against their lesser brethren the Chorus that uses Aluminium/Magnesium tweeter.

It's non-fatiguing and less sibilance on female vocals.

The 600 sounds a bit edgy, rough and metallic.

To me, the only genre where the 600 excels in this region is rock.

 

Even if the 900 is priced the same as the 600, notwithstanding the built quality or the finishes, I'll still go for the 600 for the type of music that I listen.

 

 

Edit:

The amplifier used is Otomatsu BDR-HPA02, single ended.

http://ohm-image.net/opinion/audiophile/sound-quality-review-otomatsu-bdr-hpa02-balanced-beyer-t1-t5

Source is my AK120, using mini-stereo to RCA interconnect.


Edited by akhyar - 10/4/13 at 2:43am
post #1273 of 2351

akhyar, nice impressions. What amp did you use? I found when I wrote the TH-600 review beginning of the year (and I already owned the TH-900 then) that the amp made a difference on synergy with the two headphones.

post #1274 of 2351
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

akhyar, nice impressions. What amp did you use? I found when I wrote the TH-600 review beginning of the year (and I already owned the TH-900 then) that the amp made a difference on synergy with the two headphones.

 

+1 Would definitely like to know what amps you were using. Very nice impressions indeed. It's interesting that you prefer the TH-600 over the 900, although I can definitely understand why after comparing both with a variety of genres. 

post #1275 of 2351
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

akhyar, nice impressions. What amp did you use? I found when I wrote the TH-600 review beginning of the year (and I already owned the TH-900 then) that the amp made a difference on synergy with the two headphones.

 

I was using Jaben's Otomatsu BDR-HPA02, single ended.

http://ohm-image.net/opinion/audiophile/sound-quality-review-otomatsu-bdr-hpa02-balanced-beyer-t1-t5

 

Source is my AK120, using mini-stereo to RCA interconnect.

 

They do have Fostex HP-A8 Amp/DAC to audition, but I decided to go for the Otomatsu in case the HP-A8 is already factory fine-tuned for the TH900, giving it unfair advantage.... Lol!


Edited by akhyar - 10/3/13 at 9:23pm
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