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post #1186 of 2351
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Originally Posted by Tony1110 View Post

They don't have the bass impact and they definitely lack some fullness in the mids compared to LCD-2. They make up for their shortcomings in other areas though: better highs, bass quantity, soundstage, comfort. The mids are definitely TH-600's weakest link. Compared to LCD-2 where you can feel an acoustic guitar being plucked as well as hear it, TH-600 definitely feel a bit thin.

They're very good headphones though. I think they're more fun to listen to than LCD-2.

 

I actually think the TH-600 have more bass impact and quantity than the LCD-2. Not by much, but it is definitely there when I had my pair. It would stand to reason that they do being dynamic vs orthodynamic. I never found the TH-600 to be thin, just more airy in comparison. If you find them to be "thin" you might want to let your brain adjust to their signature before writing them off. Even though the headphones are fairly efficient, having good upstream gear will help them open up. They sounded noticeably fuller with a hybrid tube amplifier. On the WA7 I demo'd the mids were brought up giving them a very nice balanced sound. 

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I have good upstream gear but I am curious about trying them out with a tube amp.

TH-600 have loads of bass. I'm wasn't disputing that and perhaps I didn't word my post very well but I did say that bass quantity was one of their strengths. They also go lower down than any headphone I've heard.

But I find it difficult to believe that any amp will give them as much impact as LCD-2. TH-600 aren't lacking in impact (I did word my post badly), but I was comparing the two of them a few days ago, going from one to the other, playing the same music, and LCD-2 have more impact. It's not even close. TH-600 goes deeper but it doesn't hit anywhere near as hard.

LCD-2 mids are full, meaty and pushed well forward. By comparison, TH-600 mids sound thin and distant. I acknowledge that mine are a new set and could improve after burn in, but that's how they sound right now.

And if I'm sounding as though I dislike TH-600, nothing could be further from the truth. Speed, detail, bass quantity and depth, comfort, soundstage, treble, clarity all top notch. The only thing I dislike are the somewhat recessed mids (which, incidentally, do seem to be improving as I type).
Edited by Tony1110 - 9/13/13 at 12:22pm
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So the cheapest place to get these is still pricejapan correct? They don't pop up on the for sale and trade forum too often. 

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Originally Posted by goldenSHK View Post
 

So the cheapest place to get these is still pricejapan correct? They don't pop up on the for sale and trade forum too often. 

 

Yes, unless you want to use a forwarding service like Tenso. If you are willing to do that, you might find a slightly better deal from Amazon.jp. These don't pop up much because they are a really good headphone for the money (IMO). You see a lot more TH-900's because that is just the way of Head-Fi. People rather go for the best, than something that is clearly going to be inferior in comparison. I for one find value in both version, and it would be up to the individual whether the extra money is worth the upgrade. If I didn't have the TH-900 first, I probably would have been gravy with the TH-600. 

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Originally Posted by Homage View Post

Fostex TH600 is one of the headphones I'd like to try out in the near future. I've noticed on the selling page that TH900 phones always seem to be for trade or sale much more than the TH600 model, even though the TH900 is the flagship model for the company.

May be down to more people on the forum having purchased the TH900 model, or could it be the TH600 buyers tend to hang on more to their purchase due to the mid-point price level, and thus making the TH600 one of the best buys overall for headphones!!!

 

At this level no one headphone is "bad" - frankly if there was any technical deficiency they would be found out on a site such as this

 

It is very often a case of personal preference and system synergy. The latter point I think tends to be overlooked

post #1191 of 2351
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Originally Posted by LFC_SL View Post
 

 

At this level no one headphone is "bad" - frankly if there was any technical deficiency they would be found out on a site such as this

 

It is very often a case of personal preference and system synergy. The latter point I think tends to be overlooked

 

+1

post #1192 of 2351
+2 but...

PS1000 and maybe the W5000 are the exceptions to this rule.

(Imo, ymmv)
post #1193 of 2351
Denon D7100...if that even counts.
post #1194 of 2351
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post

Yes, unless you want to use a forwarding service like Tenso. If you are willing to do that, you might find a slightly better deal from Amazon.jp. These don't pop up much because they are a really good headphone for the money (IMO). You see a lot more TH-900's because that is just the way of Head-Fi. People rather go for the best, than something that is clearly going to be inferior in comparison. I for one find value in both version, and it would be up to the individual whether the extra money is worth the upgrade. If I didn't have the TH-900 first, I probably would have been gravy with the TH-600. 

How much better is the TH-900? I have about 10 days to decide whether I want to return my TH-600 and swap for the higher priced model.
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Where are you? Hifilounge have them in for demo. I believe they are at present the only UK store to offer Fostex for demo. They also carry Audeze, Beyer, Senn and Grado whilst you are there

 

Disclaimer: Never been there myself!

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Originally Posted by Tony1110 View Post


How much better is the TH-900? I have about 10 days to decide whether I want to return my TH-600 and swap for the higher priced model.

 

They aren't all that different. I'm still planning (key word here because I've been saying such for sometime - but have got a round tuit) to write a comparison review, but overall the tonal balance is similar. I was evaluating the two for about three weeks before I finally made the decision to keep my TH-900. The decision was pretty easy because they were so similar, and I find the TH-900 to be a tad more fun. If I had to describe the difference in terms of percentage it would be somewhere around 8-10%. Obviously this seems like a rather small margin, but in terms of audio (a game of inches)... that number can be significant to some and vis versa. For me, I already had the TH-900 for a little over 6 months - and I am still loving the sound I get from them. They fit a void in my collection that can't really be replaced by anything currently on the market. I don't find either flawless, but the TH-600 had a few things about it that swayed me towards the TH-900. First of all, the I find the treble on the TH-900 to be smoother. I haven't experienced any sibilance with TH-900, but did experience some with the TH-600 when testing female vocals and some horn/stringed instruments. Not enough to call it hot or sharp, but just slightly edgy. The other noticeable difference was the balance of the bass. The TH-600 lacked a bit of body and fullness in comparison to the TH-900. I would call the TH-600's bass more of a U-Shape, while the TH-900 have more of a V-Shape. Of course this is preference, but I find the TH-900 to sound noticeably more full. Both have sweet mids, with the TH-900 having slightly more recessed mids. This doesn't really bother me, and like I said is a refreshing change from my warmer headphones the Mad Dog and the LCD-3. The TH-900 just sound more natural to me overall, but others could find them both too colored - so the moral of this is obviously preferences. There is more value in the TH-600 no question. At its price, it is hard to recommend the TH-900 over the TH-600 if you are on a budget. They are more similar than they are different. I would be happy with either, but I have the curse of always asking "what if?". Getting the lower model in a headphone lineup would always leave me itching to find out what I'm missing with the top of the line.  

 

I would urge you to try and find a demo somewhere before buying, or buy from some outfit that accepts returns. You could very well find the "upgrade" not worthwhile, or not like the change in sound, either way it would be a good idea to find out for yourself.  

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Everybody says they have sweet mids but I'm just not hearing it ATM. I think it probably is just a case of my ears burning in and getting used to a different signature, but they still sound way too distant. What I love about these headphones is the speed and the easy, effortless way they handle complex instrumental passages. DG said they were similar to the T1 and I can see where she was coming from. These are more fun though. They're addictive and so easy to listen to for extended periods.

I think I have the 'what if' curse too. I'm happy with TH-600 and I know that returning them and getting the TH-900 would result in me feeling like I'd wasted £600 on something not all that much better. Still, the curse is a powerful one and I'm kinda hoping that the 10 days will pass quickly as that would seem to be the only antidote to my current bout of upgradetitus.
post #1198 of 2351
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

+2 but...

PS1000 and maybe the W5000 are the exceptions to this rule.

(Imo, ymmv)

Edited by jibzilla - 6/3/14 at 4:34am
post #1199 of 2351
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Originally Posted by jibzilla View Post

+3 but...

Hd700 and you probably are not going to like this but HE-6 imo. D7100=HA!

The HD700 have some good reviews. Nobody ever talks about them on here though. Are they really that bad?
post #1200 of 2351
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Originally Posted by LFC_SL View Post

Where are you? Hifilounge have them in for demo. I believe they are at present the only UK store to offer Fostex for demo. They also carry Audeze, Beyer, Senn and Grado whilst you are there

Disclaimer: Never been there myself!

Item Audio offer home demos too but you pay full whack if you buy from them.

I'm going to keep the TH-600. They're getting better all the time. They sound absolutely fantastic with electronic music.
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