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post #61 of 352
Well I don't use eq and my files are apple lossless either converted from flac or ripped in apple lossless directly from CD so there's no point of rockboxing mine. What I have to think about is what idevice dac or dac/amp I want. I'm leaning towards hpp1 for being a dac/amp but allows lineout to external amp. However I'm not 100% sure that's what I want ultimately... wish there are comparisons asap
post #62 of 352
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 However I'm not 100% sure that's what I want ultimately... wish there are comparisons asap

http://centrance.com/products/hifi-m8/

post #63 of 352
That's not a comparison... are you suggesting I should get this instead of the hpp1?
post #64 of 352
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That's not a comparison... are you suggesting I should get this instead of the hpp1?

Be polite. Scroll down to where it says `compare`.

post #65 of 352
I didn't mean it in a mean or rude way... anyway I was referring to a user review that includes description of the sound as well but thanks for the link
post #66 of 352

Have anyone asked Mr. Ken of CypherLabs the main reason they choose AKM over Wolfson for the DAC chip in the new products?

 

I still believe the Wolfson DAC chip (with proper design of the DAC system) can produce the best sound eventhough this is just solely my opinion.

 

For those who have ipod classic 5th Generation will know what I mean. wink_face.gif

post #67 of 352
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post

 

I still believe the Wolfson DAC chip (with proper design of the DAC system) can produce the best sound eventhough this is just solely my opinion.

 

For those who have ipod classic 5th Generation will know what I mean. wink_face.gif

Yawn. Broken record syndrome.

 

deadhorse.gif

 

(btw I have the 5g and ....other ipods/iphones, imho it is not the wolfson that people enjoy so much in the 5G, it is the rolled off highs the 5g has...esp. young sensitive ears).

post #68 of 352
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

Yawn. Broken record syndrome.

 

deadhorse.gif

 

(btw I have the 5g and ....other ipods/iphones, imho it is not the wolfson that people enjoy so much in the 5G, it is the rolled off highs the 5g has...esp. young sensitive ears).

I have both 5th gen. ipod video (60GB) and the latest ipod classic (160GB). In term of sound quality (sound stage, separation, detail, volume), ipod video wins in every aspect!atsmile.gif

 

Note: ipod video  - with Wolfson chip

          ipod classic -  with Cirrus Logic chip

post #69 of 352
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post

I have both 5th gen. ipod video (60GB) and the latest ipod classic (160GB). In term of sound quality (sound stage, separation, detail, volume), ipod video wins in every aspect!atsmile.gif

 

Note: ipod video  - with Wolfson chip

          ipod classic -  with Cirrus Logic chip

so you keep saying in nearly every post. yawn. double yawn. triple yawn.

 

Sorry...but it seems like lots of new members who join head-fi like to post `Oh mai gawd, 5G ipod iz teh bestest ipod eva!`. It gets old really fast, especially when members feel the need to keep individually posting it over and over again.

 

Annnd....Testing ONLY two ipods side by side is far from a scientific process. It is laughable.

 

Here is a list for you, test 5 cirrus and 5 wolfson, get a friend to swap from ipod to ipod whilst you close your eyes.

They can take a note of the results, then get back to us. Use lossless files if possible.

Use several types of headphones and IEMs.

 

Do it properly or not at all.

 

 

Which iPods have a wolfson audio chip?

iPod 1G & 2G (WM8721), 3G (WM8731),  4G(WM8975),  5G  (WM8758BG) and 5.5G (WM8758BG)

iPod nano 1G (WM8975G), 2G (WM8975), 3G (WM1870)

iPod Touch 1G (WM8758BG

iPod mini (Wolfson 8731?)

iPhone (WM8758BG) and the iPhone 3G (WM6180).

 

Which iPods have a Cirrus Audio Chip?

ipod ‘Classic’ 1G , 2G & 3G  (CS42L55(These are also known as 6th 7th and 8th gen iPod)

ipod nano 4G (CS42L58), 5G (CLI1480A), 6G (CLI1544C0)

iPod Touch 2G (possibly CS42L58)

iPhone 3GS (CS41L61) and 4(338S0589), 4S (338S0987)

iPod Shuffle 4th Gen (CLI1544C0)


Edited by ExpatinJapan - 10/21/12 at 7:41am
post #70 of 352

One thing that people keep overlooking is the fact that it's not the DAC chip alone that makes the difference, but how that DAC chip is used in the entire system. You can have a really crappy DAC with an ESS Sabre DAC chip. I don't think we can apriori say that the new CLAS will be inferior to the previous one just because it has an AKM (which is a great DAC chip by the way) and not Wolfson. 

post #71 of 352
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Originally Posted by Yuceka View Post

One thing that people keep overlooking is the fact that it's not the DAC chip alone that makes the difference, but how that DAC chip is used in the entire system. 

Exactly.

post #72 of 352
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post

Have anyone asked Mr. Ken of CypherLabs the main reason they choose AKM over Wolfson for the DAC chip in the new products?

 

I still believe the Wolfson DAC chip (with proper design of the DAC system) can produce the best sound eventhough this is just solely my opinion.

 

For those who have ipod classic 5th Generation will know what I mean. wink_face.gif

 

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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

Yawn. Broken record syndrome.

 

deadhorse.gif

 

(btw I have the 5g and ....other ipods/iphones, imho it is not the wolfson that people enjoy so much in the 5G, it is the rolled off highs the 5g has...esp. young sensitive ears).

 

+1 to ExpatinJapan 

post #73 of 352
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LOL the difference is probably not very noticeable, they will have different internal amps that need to be bypassed by an external amp so that the difference in sound is solely dependent on the dac sections
post #74 of 352

Just ordered this bad boy :) Should be in my hands roughly at the same time with the Alo National and RSA Tomahawk. 

post #75 of 352

does anyone know when the -r becomes available?

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