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post #16 of 350
10/15/12 at 7:14am
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post


I was very surprised that Cypherlabs replaced Wolfson with AKM as I know Wolfson produces the best DAC chip in the world.

 

I believe that is a matter of opinion.

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post #17 of 350
10/15/12 at 7:37am
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

I believe that is a matter of opinion.

you can say that again....

its popular on here to think that wolfson dacs automatically without a good design make it excellent, but I can tell you, they are one of the least favoured chips used for DIY hifi dacs, they rarely get a look in these days. nice digital filters on the top models but I really dont see what all the fuss is about myself, particularly given the one they were using wasnt a particularly high end wolfson. I dont have any experience of it so cant specifically comment, but I would think te AKM is a better choice
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post #18 of 350
10/15/12 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post


I was very surprised that Cypherlabs replaced Wolfson with AKM as I know Wolfson produces the best DAC chip in the world.

 

 

well the schiit bitfrost apparently also uses an AKM chip so i think it will be fine smily_headphones1.gif

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post #19 of 350
10/15/12 at 8:16pm
Looks like my guess was spot on! David from Cypher Labs replied really quickly. I am thinking it's going to be almost impossible for me to resist this thing. The guys at Cypher labs actually changed everything I didn't like about the original CLAS.  I wish I could hear it first before purchase.
 
*Cut from my email*
 
>"This allows us to identify automatically whether the computer or Apple device is connected. Since we charge the Apple device, it is >important for our firmware to adjust to the input source. We will also have a $499 version of the AlgoRhythm Solo -R that has the standard A >input as before, but now charges as well. That one is coming in mid-November."
 
>Thanks,
 

>David Maudlin, CEO
>Cypher Labs, LLC

 

I'm really looking forward to the -db.

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post #20 of 350
10/15/12 at 8:31pm

Nice...Their website confirm it will work with non-Apple products too-

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post #21 of 350
10/15/12 at 8:47pm
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Nice...Their website confirm it will work with non-Apple products too-


This is true.

 

However, the CL site says "Apple devices and PC". If it works with an Android phone and charges it too I would consider that rather excellent.

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post #22 of 350
10/15/12 at 8:53pm
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post


I was very surprised that Cypherlabs replaced Wolfson with AKM as I know Wolfson produces the best DAC chip in the world.

 

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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

 

I believe that is a matter of opinion.

 

or it's a matter of how it was implemented.

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post #23 of 350
10/15/12 at 8:56pm
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Originally Posted by basman View Post

 

 

or it's a matter of how it was implemented.


This is true. Although I think ESS might have something to say about the DAC chips and quality :).

 

As for the -db working with an android phone, I don't think so. I just went through the manual that's up on the CL website and you need a driver for it to work with windows. Ahh well, I can still dream.

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post #24 of 350
10/15/12 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by Timmyw View Post

Looks like my guess was spot on! David from Cypher Labs replied really quickly. I am thinking it's going to be almost impossible for me to resist this thing. The guys at Cypher labs actually changed everything I didn't like about the original CLAS.  I wish I could hear it first before purchase.
 
*Cut from my email*
 
>"This allows us to identify automatically whether the computer or Apple device is connected. Since we charge the Apple device, it is >important for our firmware to adjust to the input source. We will also have a $499 version of the AlgoRhythm Solo -R that has the standard A >input as before, but now charges as well. That one is coming in mid-November."
 
>Thanks,
 

>David Maudlin, CEO
>Cypher Labs, LLC

 

I'm really looking forward to the -db.

 

Well done. I am surprised.

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post #25 of 350
10/15/12 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by Timmyw View Post


This is true.

 

However, the CL site says "Apple devices and PC". If it works with an Android phone and charges it too I would consider that rather excellent.

Yeah,true..But considering it is a bit a surprise by most of us here,positively i mean,there should be a good possibility that it will work 

with Android devices ,and if not now,they probably Chyper Labs will thinking about it soon.

If so i won't hesitate to save up some money for a Solo dB and a Galaxy Player with no need to rooting the device etc...beerchug.gif

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post #26 of 350
10/15/12 at 10:18pm
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post


well the schiit bitfrost apparently also uses an AKM chip so i think it will be fine smily_headphones1.gif

do you think people could stop generalising by chip maker? the bifrost uses a high end, higher power AKM wit external reference, external digital filter etc. AKM make consumer level codecs as well and as mentioned a dac chip by itself; even an ESS, is not a guarantee of good audio
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post #27 of 350
10/15/12 at 10:23pm
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do you think people could stop generalising by chip maker? 

No chance in hell that will happen.....lol

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post #28 of 350
10/16/12 at 3:10am
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post


do you think people could stop generalising by chip maker? the bifrost uses a high end, higher power AKM wit external reference, external digital filter etc. AKM make consumer level codecs as well and as mentioned a dac chip by itself; even an ESS, is not a guarantee of good audio


Lol, you might be in the wrong forum if you are wishing for that Qusp :)

 

I said that because there are a few that are awesome. Depends really how you stick a device together.

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post #29 of 350
10/16/12 at 3:46am

Just curios if Solo-R have a better product specs than the original Solo?

Do you think Solo-R will perform no better than original Solo?

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post #30 of 350
10/16/12 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post

Just curios if Solo-R have a better product specs than the original Solo?

Do you think Solo-R will perform no better than original Solo?


I'm curious as well.

It looks like an ipod classic-->Solo-R-->C421 would make a great mid-fi rig.

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