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post #121 of 350
10/28/12 at 2:05am

Tried the new CLAS today. (with the Rx3)

 

Stiil deciding my thoughts. Will post again later.


Edited by ExpatinJapan - 10/28/12 at 2:10am
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post #122 of 350
10/28/12 at 9:37am
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Tried the new CLAS today. (with the Rx3)

 

Stiil deciding my thoughts. Will post again later.

 

Looking forward to your thoughts - I also have RX3 and am contemplating whether to upgrade my old CLAS to the new CLAS - I wonder if the difference is really big that warrants an upgrade?

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post #123 of 350
10/28/12 at 3:11pm
I am in the same position and considering an upgrade although very reluctant as have not had my Clas Solo for that long and it's price now second hand will be much reduced due to the new model. I hope that this is not the start of an Apple like approach where new models are introduced every six months or less.
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post #124 of 350
10/28/12 at 3:20pm
I doubt it very much. David has stated he will only update things if there is a substantial reason and this update is a substantial and significant one. Also, Cypherlabs is not like HiFiMan or iBasso who seem to change product like i change socks, this is the first new product since launch almost 19 months which is glacial compared to some companies out there.

Likewise though I am not changing, if I did and even if I got $300 for my unit I feel I have had more than the loss in value in terms of listening satisfaction. Never buy anything with an eye on resale value as you will always be disappointed I find!
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post #125 of 350
10/28/12 at 3:21pm
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Tried the new CLAS today. (with the Rx3)

 

Stiil deciding my thoughts. Will post again later.

do you have ipod touch or classic?

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post #126 of 350
10/28/12 at 4:07pm
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For me it means its not "HiFI" but more about presentation of the music in an emotional way. HiFi will dig all the details out and will probably measure perfectly but in my experience the it leaves no room for the romance of the music, some would negatively say that the non HiFi is coloured, for me that equals a more enjoyable, "musical" listening experience rather than an analytical one.
I went down the "HiFi" route for a while but it did not engage me musically so I have now gone down the less "accurate" but far more enjoyable route in choosing my gear and I am getting far more pleasure out of it. After all Music is about emotion and being connected. If one just wants ruler flat then one might as well listen to sine waves all day long!


You know I agree with Music being about emotion and connectedness. It's also about other things as well. To me though the more accuracy brought to reproducing something the more it sounds like what you hear when someone is actually playing a violin near you or hitting a snare. Or singing. I think for me personally I would be the polar opposite to this view :) hehe. Strange how many different opinions exist in audio. Be interesting if they ever brought an international standard to headphones or other equipment. Perhaps that isn't such a good thing as I previously thought.

 

Saying that though I don't like the term "Musicality". After spending a great deal of time getting my gear together I have come to the conclusion that if I lost it all tomorrow I wouldn't be so sad. A violin played out of a tinny radio is still a violin, and no less musical for that fact. Don't get me wrong though I love all my gear but for me it's just there to listen to music through (however much pleasure it brings me). But through my current lot of gear it sounds a lot more realistic. How can that be less musical? I am a bit confused by audiophile jargon sometimes.

 

Something to think about that's for sure :).

 

I plan on getting the new -db and an iPod Classic over the next week or two if no one has any opinions on it by then I will list some here.

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post #127 of 350
10/28/12 at 4:21pm
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I doubt it very much. David has stated he will only update things if there is a substantial reason and this update is a substantial and significant one. Also, Cypherlabs is not like HiFiMan or iBasso who seem to change product like i change socks, this is the first new product since launch almost 19 months which is glacial compared to some companies out there.
Likewise though I am not changing, if I did and even if I got $300 for my unit I feel I have had more than the loss in value in terms of listening satisfaction. Never buy anything with an eye on resale value as you will always be disappointed I find!

New technologies reduce product life cycle and cost. This is good for consumers.
Product refresh for every 6 months sounds reasonable.
If you don't do it , your competitor will do it. biggrin.gif
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post #128 of 350
10/28/12 at 4:26pm
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You know I agree with Music being about emotion and connectedness. It's also about other things as well. To me though the more accuracy brought to reproducing something the more it sounds like what you hear when someone is actually playing a violin near you or hitting a snare. Or singing. I think for me personally I would be the polar opposite to this view smily_headphones1.gif hehe. Strange how many different opinions exist in audio. Be interesting if they ever brought an international standard to headphones or other equipment. Perhaps that isn't such a good thing as I previously thought.

Saying that though I don't like the term "Musicality". After spending a great deal of time getting my gear together I have come to the conclusion that if I lost it all tomorrow I wouldn't be so sad. A violin played out of a tinny radio is still a violin, and no less musical for that fact. Don't get me wrong though I love all my gear but for me it's just there to listen to music through (however much pleasure it brings me). But through my current lot of gear it sounds a lot more realistic. How can that be less musical? I am a bit confused by audiophile jargon sometimes.

Something to think about that's for sure smily_headphones1.gif.

I plan on getting the new -db and an iPod Classic over the next week or two if no one has any opinions on it by then I will list some here.

Any special reason for you to select Solo db over Solo R as I know Solo R is cheaper by $200 and it sounds similar to Solo db?!
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post #129 of 350
10/28/12 at 4:29pm
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Any special reason for you to select Solo db over Solo R as I know Solo R is cheaper by $200 and it sounds similar to Solo db?!


David said he was thinking about giving it OTG functionality. If this happens I could use it with my android phone (and have the -db act as a charging device to boot!). As it stands I can use it with my laptop whilst away from home and I don't need to rely on apple any more. It's nice to have options.

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post #130 of 350
10/28/12 at 4:43pm
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David said he was thinking about giving it OTG functionality. If this happens I could use it with my android phone (and have the -db act as a charging device to boot!). As it stands I can use it with my laptop whilst away from home and I don't need to rely on apple any more. It's nice to have options.

Thought that someone on this thread already tried the new - db with his gs3 and said that it doesnt work?

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post #131 of 350
10/28/12 at 5:02pm
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You know I agree with Music being about emotion and connectedness. It's also about other things as well. To me though the more accuracy brought to reproducing something the more it sounds like what you hear when someone is actually playing a violin near you or hitting a snare. Or singing. I think for me personally I would be the polar opposite to this view :) hehe. Strange how many different opinions exist in audio. Be interesting if they ever brought an international standard to headphones or other equipment. Perhaps that isn't such a good thing as I previously thought.

 

Saying that though I don't like the term "Musicality". After spending a great deal of time getting my gear together I have come to the conclusion that if I lost it all tomorrow I wouldn't be so sad. A violin played out of a tinny radio is still a violin, and no less musical for that fact. Don't get me wrong though I love all my gear but for me it's just there to listen to music through (however much pleasure it brings me). But through my current lot of gear it sounds a lot more realistic. How can that be less musical? I am a bit confused by audiophile jargon sometimes.

 

Something to think about that's for sure :).

 

I plan on getting the new -db and an iPod Classic over the next week or two if no one has any opinions on it by then I will list some here.

 

 

have the classic myself, theres limitation to it such as not being able to play 24 bit 96khz files and above... if you have a lot of those high resolution files

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post #132 of 350
10/28/12 at 5:20pm
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have the classic myself, theres limitation to it such as not being able to play 24 bit 96khz files and above... if you have a lot of those high resolution files

hey red.  do you have any connection problem with u

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post #133 of 350
10/28/12 at 5:20pm

usb cable.  I almost broke my ipod using that stock cable.

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post #134 of 350
10/28/12 at 6:42pm

no problem with the usb cable that comes with stock with the ipod (if thats what you are asking)

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post #135 of 350
10/28/12 at 8:45pm
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David said he was thinking about giving it OTG functionality. If this happens I could use it with my android phone (and have the -db act as a charging device to boot!). As it stands I can use it with my laptop whilst away from home and I don't need to rely on apple any more. It's nice to have options.

If it works for Android Samsung Galaxy devices such S2, S3 or player 4, 5, then I would say this Solo -db is a breakthrough product and it worth for us to pay premium price!
 

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