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post #706 of 792

Had to send mine back for RMA because of some serious wear on the plug causing sound to drop (had them for about 4 months)..

Was very happy with them until this happened. Not to mention the fact that shipping them back from the Netherlands apparently cost me just as much as a new pair did last week when they were on sale... -_-'

 

post #707 of 792
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Originally Posted by iamthem View Post

Oh and there's massive driver flex on both sides.

What does driver flex sound like? I've only seen reference to it in this thread.

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post #708 of 792
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Originally Posted by loopism View Post

What does driver flex sound like? I've only seen reference to it in this thread.

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I've been using the R1s for about 15 hours or so, and I finally think I got a light idea of what driver flex is (but I could be wrong).
When playing heavy bass music at fairly loud volumes, there's this weird distortion of the low frequencies while the mids and highs remain fine.
After googling it, it seems driver flex is when the pressure inside the shell increases. As a result, the pressure needs to get relieved on the weakest section, which happens to be the driver (my woofer in this case??).
Somebody correct my thoughts if I'm wrong. Or elaborate please!

Personally, although I listen to fairly bass heavy music, it usually doesn't distort until I turn the volume pretty loud. What I do worry about though is if driver flex progressively gets worse and shortens the life of these little guys.
post #709 of 792

Apparently the reason for the crappy bass I had was just some software problem

 

It wasn't that the bass was terrible it was that I wasn't hearing any bass from the beginning

 

Now that I do have that fixed, these sound much much better

 

The bass is ok. I don't think it's enough to statisfy a basshead like me, but that could just be me being greedy

 

The sound quality is pretty good for 35$, but it's still not quite enough so that I would go crazy about it.

post #710 of 792
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Originally Posted by dasaybz View Post

So my first reaction to these was, wow, the mids are odd. It sounds like I'm in a tunnel or something. I was very disappointed, almost to the point that I wanted to return them. Maybe I've just gotten used to them, but after using them quite a bit (probably 10 hours or so), they sound much much better to my ears. To the poster above me that says that the sound of someone singing sounds far away, I really have to disagree with you there. I have no issues with the mids on these at all. These are fantastic sounding IEMs, and if you like pounding bass, these definitely fit the bill. The only issue I've had is with some driver flex while playing some bass heavy tunes cranked up all the way. All in all, I'm really digging these, plus I run alot, and these are great for running, very comfortable when worn over the ear.

If you understand the benchmarks I'm using - K701s which may possibly have the best soundstaging under $500, and B2's both of which are ultra accurate and analytical a $30 bassy IEM against references of such caliber doesn't even stand a chance. I think they ARE fantastic sounding for those who like the sound signature, for $30. Even the mighty TF10 isn't very good for mid focused music and I'm not going to falsely claim that the R1's have great mids. "wow, the mids are odd. It sounds like I'm in a tunnel or something" - that was my reaction as well. I'm normally using quad driver CIEMs on the go and I even have issues against them. I did criticize the mids but don't get me wrong, they are great value and I would recommend them.

 

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Originally Posted by mikek200 View Post

I agree..+1.

I've done about 200 hours on mine,and although the bass is a bit too strong for me..I think the overall SQ is very good.,and for the $29.99 I laid out for them,I'm happy

I am waiting on the B2's as well,according to Brainwavz,they are supposed to be back in stock ,the end of March,{got this from an e-mail too Brainwavz customer support}

 

For iamthem ,is it really possible to get an accurate impression ,when your sitting in a "class" ?

Well... it was a pretty bludgy class. About 30 minutes of solid listening, although I think a review should only be written after at least 3-5 hours (a day) of analytical listening and a week of relaxed listening. Remember they are first impressions and I may change them later...

post #711 of 792

Are the positive reviews written by Brainwavz employees? I'm sorry, but these earphones sound like a farting gorilla. I have Beyerdynamic DTX 71 iE, which are only 10-20$ more expensive, but compared to R1 they sound like Yamaha studio monitors vs a 30$ 2.1 Gembird set. In fact, even generic Sony or Philips IEMs in the 15-20$ price range sound better. There is ONLY mid bass and highs here, nothing more.

post #712 of 792
Nope, I genuinely enjoy them. I'm not exactly a connoisseur or anything, so I can't compare them to a grand list of IEMs. I'm also a bit weirded out that so many people take issue with the mids because I don't find them too recessed. Not forward, but I'm not sitting here with that empty feeling I usually get from a scooped sound. It is a bit of a muddy sound, not for analytical listening. But I jog with them. It's fine.

I'll see how the R1 fares against better IEMs in the future. If this is a "bad" sound, then I expect my mind to be blown away by the higher price brackets biggrin.gif.
post #713 of 792
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Originally Posted by grufferator View Post

Are the positive reviews written by Brainwavz employees? I'm sorry, but these earphones sound like a farting gorilla. I have Beyerdynamic DTX 71 iE, which are only 10-20$ more expensive, but compared to R1 they sound like Yamaha studio monitors vs a 30$ 2.1 Gembird set. In fact, even generic Sony or Philips IEMs in the 15-20$ price range sound better. There is ONLY mid bass and highs here, nothing more.

 

I like them a lot.

Make sure you are wearing them correctly:

 

Here is the wrong way:

 

 

You are either wearing them wrong, or have isolation issues - try other tips. The pre-installed double-flange works best for me.


Edited by BenF - 2/17/13 at 3:21pm
post #714 of 792

Here's another quick review of the Brainwavz R1s. I'm no audiophile, I just like music.
I bought these during the pre-order sale about 3 weeks ago. 

Build:
Luckily, these second generation versions of the Brainwavz R1s have fixed their mic position that previous reviews have mentioned and no longer are too far up. It sits at about your upper pec (good spot).
The memory wire by the ear works fairly well (must be worn over-ear. 
Eartips... They don't fit the greatest for me. Luckily, they do include Comply Foam Tips, which do conform to basically any ear and provide a very nice seal. The problem with these (as all comply foam tips), is that you better clean your earwax often, otherwise it'll stick to these tips. 
Wires look solid, with an 3.5mm jack.

Sound:
These are my first dual driver IEMs, but I have/owned a few consumer type headphones/IEMs (Klipsch Image One Bluetooth, Bowers & Wilkins P3, Klipsch S4A (I & II), Monster Turbines, IE Beats, Shure 215, various cheap ones). 
Currently, I regularly use my S4A (II).. and while I love the S4A, these are much better for bass IF you can find the proper seal. Just massive bass monsters that are fairly clean for a very good price. The treble and their mids however, are just okay. 
One problem I do have with these though is that they have driver flex on bass-heavy songs when played louder. I've been informed that changing the eartips may help, but the other tips don't fit very well with me.

Price:
Amazing value overall, especially since I got them on sale. 

Overall:
If you're into pretty bass-heavy music, definitely! I'd probably stay away if you're looking for bright headphones or listen to a lot of treble/mid focused music. 
Great product in my opinion though, driver flex aside.

I use these to work out.

post #715 of 792
I just ordered a pair of R1's this past week after reading through this thread. How is the cable, are the micro phonics ok when wearing them over the ear(that is how I wear all my items. Also, how are the tips, are they overly pliable? I have some Meelec m11+ headphones and the tips are awful, got Sony hybrids instead.
post #716 of 792
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Originally Posted by red71rum View Post

I just ordered a pair of R1's this past week after reading through this thread. How is the cable, are the micro phonics ok when wearing them over the ear(that is how I wear all my items. Also, how are the tips, are they overly pliable? I have some Meelec m11+ headphones and the tips are awful, got Sony hybrids instead.

 

The microphonics are excellent when wearing over the ear.

Tip selection is great, the default double-flanges work best for both comfort and SQ.

post #717 of 792
I don't hear much (if any) microphonics, so they make great workout items. The rubber tips don't fit me very well, but the comply foam tips work nicely and provide a really nice seal.
post #718 of 792

I agree, no microphonics when worn over the ears.

post #719 of 792
I got them a couple of days ago and I think they are great. I do wish they had a clip. I might take the clip from my broken ety HF3's and see if I can use it with these. I gave yet to walk around with them, but will try them out tomorrow.
post #720 of 792
After trying them at the gym and hiking with them, I find that the cable is not very pliable when I run it around my ear. I also do not like the tips as they do not stay in my ear well, they do not seal well. I tried some monster super tips, Sony hybrids, and some share olives. I find that the nozzles on these are pretty large.are there any tips that you guys can suggest that might give a better seal?
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