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post #541 of 746
11/22/12 at 8:56am
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Well....I've been hanging back and reading all the different opinions on these since I, as so many so eloquently put it, "dropped out" of this thread. I like that so many got the chance to see how good these really are, especially for the price. That's why I posted my review, to allow others to at least see that the low end of the scale can have a few gems. Thanks for the many nice comments on my review, it was a labor of love, as are all of my reviews beerchug.gif

 

I still use these daily, they have definitely gotten better with age IMHO. I love how they sound especially with prog rock, these are my go to IEM's for listening to all that that genre has to offer. Tips do indeed make a huge difference, with the R1's as well as any IEM. Experiment a bit here and get the sound you like. 


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post #542 of 746
11/23/12 at 1:52am
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 Tips do indeed make a huge difference, with the R1's as well as any IEM. Experiment a bit here and get the sound you like. 

at the moment I prefer these DIY "hybrid" tips ... good combination of both worlds ;)

 

 

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post #543 of 746
11/23/12 at 6:03am
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at the moment I prefer these DIY "hybrid" tips ... good combination of both worlds ;)

 

 

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Wow, I like! How did you do this? Hybrids have always been my favs....but I never knew you could make your own! 

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post #544 of 746
11/23/12 at 6:19am

Frankly, as I'm kinda obsessed with tip rolling and finding the best sounding tips for every iem, I took out my bags with tips and did some really extensive testing - foamies, sony hybrids, hybrid clones, hybrids with foam, mh1c's hybrids, meelec tips, single-flange, bi-flange, tri-flange, small bore and wide-bore tips. I came to the conclusion that the R1's stock single-flange tips sound the best as they have the best balance although not the best comfort as the silicone is slightly on the thick side. Second place is for the meelec single-flanges which have a slighly larger bore and give a more open sound, bigger soundstage and more treble in expense of some of the balance in the bass, lower-mids and the sound is more fatiguing. At third place I would say the meelec tri-flanges cut to bi-flanges and after that come the meelec bi-flanges and stock R1's bi-flanges. 

 

edit: I have to say that's my personal preference due to listening the genres of music I listen too. If I'm listening to a lot of acoustic stuff and female vocals I would probably place the meelec single flange tips at first place. I just compare mainly how is the general balance of the frequency spectrum and most of all how vocals and instruments sound as I'm trying to find the most natural presentation.


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post #545 of 746
11/23/12 at 6:31am
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Frankly, as I'm kinda obsessed with tip rolling and finding the best sounding tips for every iem, I took out my bags with tips and did some really extensive testing - foamies, sony hybrids, hybrid clones, hybrids with foam, mh1c's hybrids, meelec tips, single-flange, bi-flange, tri-flange, small bore and wide-bore tips. I came to the conclusion that the R1's stock single-flange tips sound the best as they have the best balance although not the best comfort as the silicone is slightly on the thick side. Second place is for the meelec single-flanges which have a slighly larger bore and give a more open sound, bigger soundstage and more treble in expense of some of the balance in the bass, lower-mids and the sound is more fatiguing. At third place I would say the meelec tri-flanges cut to bi-flanges and after that come the meelec bi-flanges and stock R1's bi-flanges. 

 

edit: I have to say that's my personal preference due to listening the genres of music I listen too. If I'm listening to a lot of acoustic stuff and female vocals I would probably place the meelec single flange tips at first place. I just compare mainly how is the general balance of the frequency spectrum and most of all how vocals and instruments sound as I'm trying to find the most natural presentation.

I've been using the R1 bi flanges the longest so far, but recently tried out my rather large assortment of single flange hybrids I've collected over the years...I can't remember where I got the majority of them from, though, so I can't name them, sorry. I find the bi flanges to be the most comfortable for long term use, and they seal, at least in my ears, the best. This subject will always be a to-each-his-own type due to  ears being different, of course. I still want to know how to do those hybrids, though biggrin.gif

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post #546 of 746
11/23/12 at 6:52am

Yeah, bi-flanges have better comfort as you don't have to push the nozzle all the way in as with single-flanges as the R1's housing doesn't have the best size and form for long-term comfort. The meelec bi-flanges are the exact same size as the R1's but the silicone is slightly softer, so are more comfortable. And the meelec tri-flanges either as they are or shortened to bi-flanges have the best seal and deeper fit  of the silicone tips, retaining the better tha single flanges comfort. I didn't like the hybrids with foam as they muffled the sound and the included comply tips sounded probably the worse even though they are the most comfortable and best sealing.

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post #547 of 746
11/23/12 at 6:58am
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Yeah, bi-flanges have better comfort as you don't have to push the nozzle all the way in as with single-flanges as the R1's housing doesn't have the best size and form for long-term comfort. The meelec bi-flanges are the exact same size as the R1's but the silicone is slightly softer, so are more comfortable. And the meelec tri-flanges either as they are or shortened to bi-flanges have the best seal and deeper fit  of the silicone tips, retaining the better tha single flanges comfort. I didn't like the hybrids with foam as they muffled the sound and the included comply tips sounded probably the worse even though they are the most comfortable and best sealing.

I love the seal of the Comply tips,but agree they muffle the sound. Can you buy the meelec bi flange tips separately/on their own or not? 

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post #548 of 746
11/23/12 at 7:03am

Yes, you can

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post #549 of 746
11/23/12 at 7:13am
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I love the seal of the Comply tips,but agree they muffle the sound. Can you buy the meelec bi flange tips separately/on their own or not? 

 

Use the TS one man, same seal, more comfortable and they don't affect the sound at all

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post #550 of 746
11/23/12 at 7:23am
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Use the TS one man, same seal, more comfortable and they don't affect the sound at all

TS? Where do I find them(I just ordered the meelec ones,the "balanced sound" set, thanks kova4a!). I'm all for more sets to try out! 

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post #551 of 746
11/23/12 at 7:45am
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TS? Where do I find them(I just ordered the meelec ones,the "balanced sound" set, thanks kova4a!). I'm all for more sets to try out! 

Ooops, I didn't think you would be ordering right away. I was talking about these http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEElectronics-Eartips-for-Sports-Fi-S6-M6-M6P-A161P-A151-earphones-Clear-/140821138554?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item20c9980c7a . The balanced ones are for a bigger nozzle - they will still fit though - you just have to push them all the way down on the the nozzle and be careful when you take the housings out of you ears as sometimes the tips may remain in there. Anyway, it's not a big issue as it's good to have the meelec balanced  bi-flanges in your inventory as they're pretty good for some iems.

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post #552 of 746
11/23/12 at 7:51am
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Ooops, I didn't think you would be ordering right away. I was talking about these http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEElectronics-Eartips-for-Sports-Fi-S6-M6-M6P-A161P-A151-earphones-Clear-/140821138554?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item20c9980c7a . The balanced ones are for a bigger nozzle - they will still fit though - you just have to push them all the way down on the the nozzle and be careful when you take the housings out of you ears as sometimes the tips may remain in there. Anyway, it's not a big issue as it's good to have the meelec balanced  bi-flanges in your inventory as they're pretty good for some iems.

Haha, I see a good deal, I buy it wink.gif  no worries, though, just ordered the ones you suggested as well, cant have too many tips(says the man with several rather large bags filled with them,lol). Besides, all of these new tips cost me just over ten bucks...better than all the so called Black Friday deals I've been forced to suffer through today......

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post #553 of 746
11/23/12 at 9:24am
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Wow, I like! How did you do this? Hybrids have always been my favs....but I never knew you could make your own! 

And I didn´t know you can buy these finished ... never saw them anywhere blink.gif

 

I thought the pic is self-explaining ;)

you just need some noise-blocker

and 

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post #554 of 746
11/23/12 at 9:42am
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And I didn´t know you can buy these finished ... never saw them anywhere blink.gif

 

I thought the pic is self-explaining ;)

you just need some noise-blocker

and 

Wow,its really that easy?? I honestly am used to so many overly complicated mods that I just didnt think it would be....thanks for the clarification/ultra easy how to, its appreciated beerchug.gif

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post #555 of 746
11/23/12 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Frankly, as I'm kinda obsessed with tip rolling and finding the best sounding tips for every iem, I took out my bags with tips and did some really extensive testing - foamies, sony hybrids, hybrid clones, hybrids with foam, mh1c's hybrids, meelec tips, single-flange, bi-flange, tri-flange, small bore and wide-bore tips. I came to the conclusion that the R1's stock single-flange tips sound the best as they have the best balance although not the best comfort as the silicone is slightly on the thick side. Second place is for the meelec single-flanges which have a slighly larger bore and give a more open sound, bigger soundstage and more treble in expense of some of the balance in the bass, lower-mids and the sound is more fatiguing. At third place I would say the meelec tri-flanges cut to bi-flanges and after that come the meelec bi-flanges and stock R1's bi-flanges. 

edit: I have to say that's my personal preference due to listening the genres of music I listen too. If I'm listening to a lot of acoustic stuff and female vocals I would probably place the meelec single flange tips at first place. I just compare mainly how is the general balance of the frequency spectrum and most of all how vocals and instruments sound as I'm trying to find the most natural presentation.

You wrote "mh1c's hybrids" above. Are they hybrids? I seem to only have non-hybrid silicone tips (but maybe I got them mixed up).

Anyway, I have been really enjoying using the mh1c's largest silicone tips on the R1s. Based on what you wrote above, I tried out the R1's stock single-flange tips, and they do indeed sound great. But, I think I prefer the more bass presence that the mh1c's tips provides (they also provide a really good seal for me). If you get a chance to try them out again, please let me know what your impressions are (if I'm nuts, I would like it to be you who informs me of it lol!).
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