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post #571 of 692

Just found this.

 

"Class 2 and 4 cards have better random access speed and random read/write than class 6 or 10 cards in general. To get higher sequential write speeds, manufacturers sacrifice the random access speeds. That's just how it is.
The best all around card I've ever found is Sandisk class 4.
My 32gb Sandisk class 4 outperforms any other class 10 or 2 32gb card I've tested in the random access and random read/write speeds. That's what's most important when using with WP7 or Android when using it for apps or OS files that need to be accessed quickly. Class 6 and 10 cards are setup to initialize the area of the card that is about to be used to make the sequential write/read quicker, but it takes extra time in the beginning to do the initialization. If your using the card where you need to access small bits of info from various parts of card quickly, you will do best with class 2 or 4.
Most people seem to assume that the higher the class, the better the card is for everything, but that's not how it is. Different purposes need different kinds of speed... cards with higher sequential speeds have lower random speeds."

 

For our purposes read speeds should be inconsequential.

post #572 of 692

A Kingston microSDHC 32GB Class 4 should therefore be a good choice.

 

Or is there a difference between 16GB and 32GB (concerning the noise)?

A Kingston 16GB microSDHC Class 2 might be the safest choice.


Edited by Pyrrho - 2/26/13 at 5:30am
post #573 of 692

Try it. I have no issue with 32gb. I'm perhaps less critical than Lee of noise but for me, if I don't notice it in regular use with effecient low impedance IEMs, I'm not going out of my way to listen for it. The FLAC stuff and background noise still needs to be sorted but I don't really see a noise issue with other formats or a card issue if used correctly.

 

I take it back. Now that I've found flac and mp3 show 0 noise internally, I get where you guys are coming from. Wav form the outboard card has the slightest bit of noise if I listen for it but should be a non issue. MP3 has a bit more. Probably acceptable but more noticeable. Flac is too loud with my card. Because wav worked, I assumed it file and not card issue but flac works great on the internal memory other than the skipped beat. I don't think a slower card would solve anything and most modern devices like class 4 or better. Perhaps card size may alter something but as I only have 32gb ones on hand, I can't check.


Edited by goodvibes - 2/26/13 at 7:24am
post #574 of 692

http://www.head-fi.org/t/653034/newly-interested-audiophile-review-of-the-hisound-n1

promised review by some newbie that just got into this , this would also serve as my obligatory report right ?

post #575 of 692
Quote:
Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

Try it. I have no issue with 32gb. I'm perhaps less critical than Lee of noise but for me, if I don't notice it in regular use with effecient low impedance IEMs, I'm not going out of my way to listen for it. The FLAC stuff and background noise still needs to be sorted but I don't really see a noise issue with other formats or a card issue if used correctly.

 

I take it back. Now that I've found flac and mp3 show 0 noise internally, I get where you guys are coming from. Wav form the outboard card has the slightest bit of noise if I listen for it but should be a non issue. MP3 has a bit more. Probably acceptable but more noticeable. Flac is too loud with my card. Because wav worked, I assumed it file and not card issue but flac works great on the internal memory other than the skipped beat. I don't think a slower card would solve anything and most modern devices like class 4 or better. Perhaps card size may alter something but as I only have 32gb ones on hand, I can't check.


goobvibes I can hear is most of all with my 8As which is very disappointing. I was hoping the 8As would be less sensitive than my 1Plus2s but that is not the case :(.... Even the Studio V hisses more out of the 8As, go figure.... I was hoping some of the comments I heard about the 8As not hissing or barely audible from the Studio V would hold true..... :(

 

Jack had mentioned though the new firmware should be available next week to address the FLAC and volume control issues. So once that happens I'll still be better off with the N1 as it sounds the best with the 8A.

post #576 of 692

My jh13s are woking great. I bet the more effecient and lower impedance jh16 would have similar noise to your 8a. Did you ever get any effeciency specs on them? It's not on the site when I last checked. Often bass enhanced phones also get the top bumped up a bit to keep it from getting too thick sounding so that could add to it as well. Noticed that the 1+2 don't have that spec either so it's hard to compare. Seems that you like the the 1+2 more anyway so things could be worse.


Edited by goodvibes - 2/27/13 at 6:52am
post #577 of 692
Quote:
Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

My jh13s are woking great. I bet the more effecient and lower impedance jh16 would have similar noise to your 8a. Did you ever get any effeciency specs on them? It's not on the site when I last checked. Often bass enhanced phones also get the top bumped up a bit to keep it from getting too thick sounding so that could add to it as well. Noticed that the 1+2 don't have that spec either so it's hard to compare. Seems that you like the the 1+2 more anyway so things could be worse.


Nope the Wizard keeps that a secret I guess? Never got a proper response on it. Anyways my 8As are going back to have the left IEM re-shelled and the right ear piece adjusted (it sticks out of my ears slightly, while the left one sits fully flush inside my ear). So hopefully when I get them back Hisound will have released the update for the Nova player. Then I should have the perfect pairing with the 8As :). It's a bit irritating that my DAPs are actually sounding better with my IEMs opposed to my desktop rig.... :(


Edited by lee730 - 2/27/13 at 8:19am
post #578 of 692

I bet they come back sounding better. I've found stuff like that makes a difference on the jh13. Maybe it's because of the freq phase allowing such specificity but I could clearly hear when I got both sides positioned optimumly and matched. 


Edited by goodvibes - 2/27/13 at 11:04am
post #579 of 692
Quote:
Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

Try it. I have no issue with 32gb. I'm perhaps less critical than Lee of noise but for me, if I don't notice it in regular use with effecient low impedance IEMs, I'm not going out of my way to listen for it. The FLAC stuff and background noise still needs to be sorted but I don't really see a noise issue with other formats or a card issue if used correctly.

 

I take it back. Now that I've found flac and mp3 show 0 noise internally, I get where you guys are coming from. Wav form the outboard card has the slightest bit of noise if I listen for it but should be a non issue. MP3 has a bit more. Probably acceptable but more noticeable. Flac is too loud with my card. Because wav worked, I assumed it file and not card issue but flac works great on the internal memory other than the skipped beat. I don't think a slower card would solve anything and most modern devices like class 4 or better. Perhaps card size may alter something but as I only have 32gb ones on hand, I can't check.

I got my 32GB Kingston Class 4 microSDHC today. It has exactly the same amount of noise as my Lexar 16GB Class 10 card...

That's a little disappointing, but no mayor issue.

post #580 of 692
nvm.
Edited by anoxy - 3/6/13 at 12:50pm
post #581 of 692
Does anyone with an N3 unable to play Korean FLAC songs? I tried on both my class 4 16gb and class 10 32gb cards, it gives me the error of "File Format Error" Tried both cards on my Sansa Clip Zip (rockboxed) they are able to play the Korean songs just fine. My N3 is able to play English FLAC songs btw.
post #582 of 692

There's probably something wrong with the tags in the Korean files.
 

post #583 of 692
Sorry if this question has been asked before may I know which is a better player in term of sound quality: NOVA 3 or Studio V?
Sound quality here refers to large sound stage or 3D imaging, crystal clear instruments/vocal separation and very good mids.
post #584 of 692

Studio V 3rd ANV of course. :)
 

post #585 of 692
Hey lee, I know that you're sensitive towards background hiss and that N1's volume 1 can be too loud for you. Could a sound level attenuator be a possible solution? Or is the decrease in sound quality too high? I considered to buy a attenuator, but I'm not sure how big the quality loss would be...
Edited by Pyrrho - 3/10/13 at 5:36pm
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