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post #136 of 693
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Originally Posted by stozzer123 View Post

thanks for your input chief, ill def take it to heart ;)

 

 

Thing is THEY claimed 10 hour battery life, but they are also claiming this a portable player for audiophiles so then its safe to assume Flac or other high quality files will be used.  Given that, its only fair that since no one has used the player that they inform them rather than getting the player and realising that in the pratical use intended for the community its far less than stated.  This also applies to the fact their rated battery life on the studio (the player you claim ((and rightly so thanks to the battery size and not their innovation claims)) has excellent battery life) achieves 80 hours not on flac and with the volume at 3/31, in reality many people report having to use it at settings in the region of 15-30 (with the exception of lee and a few others of courserolleyes.gif).  

So in this case big man :) even though you see me as having a vendetta I genuinely would like to help folk not run into issues than many others have had with this company.  It really is a question that should be answered when they are asking you to buy a player on blind faith.  When the player is released ill stop as I have no intention of buying it and im sure a couple of folk will pick this up, at then there is will be no need to see.  If you think jack (not his real name) wants doesnt know the answer to you would be wrong, so why not share it unless its so bad it puts people off.  When you see a company like fiio making real innovations effort and answering every question truthfully why not Hisound when it is people like us and the community that they are specifically targeting.

 

you do not plan on buying it. anyone who is going to buy it will do so having asked all the questions that need to be asked.

 

you seem to have got the wrong idea of what i was trying to say also. im sure you are trying to be helpful etc, but there is a way to go about things and this is not it. you have taken it countless steps to far for something you do not intend to even buy. Im sure that you are just trying to save the innocent buyers who will be robbed of there hard earned cash lest one man come and save the day. this isnt gotham man, so just calm down. you do have a vendetta. you can not deny it. if it was you just prying for information, you would have have gone about it very differently. youre signature is proof enough for that. and btw, the fact that jack isnt his real name means nothing at all. Like many many chinese nationals he goes by an english name when dealing with people outside china. why they do this i am not entirely sure but they do. the way you phrase it looks like an accusation to me. why do you do us all a favour (you wont but i may as well ask you) and stop talking. you seem to have only one question. it has been asked. asking again will not change anything. so stop. we will all apriciate it very much scott (if that is your real name... :P)

 

 

ANYWAY

 

For anyone else who is genuinely interested, I will be getting a sample of the player some time soon for review and will be happy to answer any questions that i get about it, when it comes of course. until then, i have asked jack abot custom eq and about battery life in an email, and im sure ill get a reply fairly soon.

post #137 of 693
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Originally Posted by stozzer123 View Post

If your going to try and disect someones statements at least make sure you bother to read them in the first place.

 

Oh, I did, which is why I stated it's getting old, cause you keep repeating yourself over and over. I'm as you can probably tell, not the only one going *Oh, it's stozzer123 again".

 

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Yes I have no intention of buying it but this doesnt stop someone asking a very valid question that may help fellow headfiers.

 

Correct. That is, if you would do that, but you're stating claims on unreleased products, raging about it, and in your way warning people to not buy it. If you would only just focus on helping out others, that'd be nice. I've read many of your posts across different threads, and I find a lot of your comments and information highly informative, and I'd like to thank you for that. It's just when it's about HiSound Audio that you turn a knob into rage-mode it seems.

 

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if you think using the same hardware Hisound are able to get the sound so discernably better and that cube and BBE weren't able to get to at least 90-95% of the hardwares potential at least then you sir are a fool. 

 

Nope. If it's about getting the most out of the hardware, as you state, you're correct. Nonetheless, HiSound Audio does not have BBE (and I don't expect them to get it very soon), nonetheless, their devices have a certain sound, and there are people that might like that sound. Saying, or warning or whatever you call it, HiSound Audio is lesser quality or something because it does not have BBE is FUD. It might still be lesser quality, but the lack of involvement of BBE is not it.

 

The thing is, stozzer123, it's not that you've got lack of knowledge.. or that you can't separate the good from the bad, cause I'm quite sure you can and I actually agree on a lot of what you've been posting around. But the way you're annoying the **** out of everyone, in a rather childish manner, where you seem to want to force your opinion onto others, is not the way to go forward.

 

People, among Jack himself, have stopped reacting to threads whenever you jumped in, and it's destroying whatever quality a thread has. You're breaking the ToS and Posting Guidelines, no mod seems to care, we do. It's what brought me to create that post, a little bit of irony in a funny little package.

 

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6 hours with flac is acceptable?  what planet are you from?

 

Not sure!


Edited by laen - 11/4/12 at 1:29pm
post #138 of 693

Thanks big man, hopefully you will have more luck asking the questions direct.

I tell you the one person I would love to see their players reviewed by, DFKT.  All though I think they refuse to include him due to his harsh words on the amp3 many years ago.  No offence there are very very few people i rate when reviewing DFKT and NWAVGUY being the best for amps and players along with joker and clieos for iems, apart from that the waters get very murky.

post #139 of 693
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Nope. If it's about getting the most out of the hardware, as you state, you're correct. Nonetheless, HiSound Audio does not have BBE (and I don't expect them to get it very soon), nonetheless, their devices have a certain sound, and there are people that might like that sound. Saying, or warning or whatever you call it, HiSound Audio is lesser quality or something because it does not have BBE is FUD. It might still be lesser quality, but the lack of involvement of BBE is not it.

LEARN TO READ PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!  AND STOP PUTTING WORDS OUT THERE THAT I DID NOT SAY!

I am not saying bbe is the be all end all, hell didnt even saying the inclusion of BBE presets is an advantage (although it is as you can still use the stock sound with added benifits of not just BBE but a user defined eq]  What I am saying (and it is only you that doesnt seem to be getting it) is that BBE were involved in the creation of even the stock sound of the cube they advised and gave input helped map it and design.  Barcus Berry (bbe) have been in the audio game for 49 years, they have over 20 years specifically in the portable arena, and know more and have more resources than Hisound could ever hope, this is not conjecture it is fact.  So again maybe to some ears (i have owned both the debated players and done a/b testing have you?) the hisound is better sounding but it would have to be such and utterly minute margin that would be incredibly hard to measure, now ones charging $32 and the other $460, seriously do you not think something is wrong there.  I am also waiting on conformation that as someone in shenzen believes cube are still OEMing for hisound as they were the makers of the original rocoo.  

 

The thing is, stozzer123, it's not that you've got lack of knowledge.. or that you can't separate the good from the bad, cause I'm quite sure you can and I actually agree on a lot of what you've been posting around. But the way you're annoying the **** out of everyone, in a rather childish manner, where you seem to want to force your opinion onto others, is not the way to go forward. People, among Jack himself, have stopped reacting to threads whenever you jumped in, and it's destroying whatever quality a thread has. You're breaking the ToS and Posting Guidelines, no mod seems to care, we do. It's what brought me to create that post, a little bit of irony in a funny little package.

 

I fully understand this point and it really is not my intent to make a mess of threads, what usually happens is I say something and a select few object and twist my words past their original intent to suite their own.  At that point i am obligated to defend myself against such statments especially falsified ones like sly's.  Ill also not back down when I know for a fact someone is uneducated and is flat out spreading conjecture, falsities and bais such as lee.  Other than that ill take on your point, you can check 2 pages back I tried myself to keep this focussed on my battery question before someone else has derailed it with misinformation again.

 

 

post #140 of 693

Thanks stoz, good post, and no I'm not trying to upset you, I actually think it is.

 

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So again maybe to some ears (i have owned both the debated players and done a/b testing have you?) the hisound is better sounding but it would have to be such and utterly minute margin that would be incredibly hard to measure, now ones charging $32 and the other $460, seriously do you not think something is wrong there.

 

If you'd ask me (and I'll probably get a lot of people going boo now), indeed.. something is a bit wrong. Of course, they want to make money with it, but.. not with such an amount. I generally dislike companies attracting customers by overpricing their products and fooling them into thinking it must be good. But then again, I've got no clue how expensive it is for a starter company (that's what I consider them to be) to have hardware made and get licenses or chips in such a small amount compared to others, and that might be the case.

 

Hearing is a personal thing, crappy players may sound gold in some people's ears, the other way around, include the headphone choice.. but I'm with you that if something shows terribly wrong in an RMAA, it must be a certain frequency the HiSound Audio products put out that people adore, or something, but I'd rather stay on the safe side myself.

 

Doesn't make me less curious about the upcoming Nova reviews ;). Maybe they'll pull it off one day, and in a future device actually offer a deal where many might say "Lets do it!".

post #141 of 693
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Originally Posted by laen View Post

 

Doesn't make me less curious about the upcoming Nova reviews ;). Maybe they'll pull it off one day, and in a future device actually offer a deal where many might say "Lets do it!".

Exactly, thats where i think people may have me wrong, the 2 solutions I am happy to see are either hisound bombs out and go out of business thus saving people from getting conned (shocking I know and im being honest here as that is one of the 2 solutions I see for there current predicament)  the other option is that they clean up their act, stop flat out lying about their products, improve there customer service across the board and stop grossly overcharging for what they are providing, yes a company should make a profit im not daft but when the sum of your parts in production is either $20 or under you cannot then make false claims about the product and charge $460, that is not right by any standard especially when you have something that costs $30 and sounds so remarkably similar (because it is essentially the same.

 

Believe it or not the 2nd solution is my preference, the more honest and valued companies following a  Fiio example would only make this hobby better IMO.

 

Anyway as I have said I have a lot of info that I will release in a separate thread in December, there are a lot of people contacting me and I wish to make it as accurate as possible with the info I have for the community.  For now unless someone interjects where I have to defend my statements I will let this get back to discussion on the Nova.

post #142 of 693
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ANYWAY

 

For anyone else who is genuinely interested, I will be getting a sample of the player some time soon for review and will be happy to answer any questions that i get about it, when it comes of course. until then, i have asked jack abot custom eq and about battery life in an email, and im sure ill get a reply fairly soon.

 

Thanks, I'm really curious about the custom eq :)

post #143 of 693

okay, i have answers. firstly it wil have preset eq, and i think it will have fully custom eq (he said you can customise it).

 

also it will have a 10-12 hour battery life with flac when: it is a medium volume (middle- 50-60%) and it is running of the internal memory.

 

 

One more thing. hisound player arent the same as the other ones mentioned. the others uses a maxim amplifier (i think...thats what was claimed) whereas hisound designed the amp in their players themselves.so they arent exactly the same =)

post #144 of 693
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okay, i have answers. firstly it wil have preset eq, and i think it will have fully custom eq (he said you can customise it).

 

also it will have a 10-12 hour battery life with flac when: it is a medium volume (middle- 50-60%) and it is running of the internal memory.

 

 

One more thing. hisound player arent the same as the other ones mentioned. the others uses a maxim amplifier (i think...thats what was claimed) whereas hisound designed the amp in their players themselves.so they arent exactly the same =)

thats good about the battery life if true, 10-12 is still a bit low but in the liveable range....just.  Thanks for getting the info for us big man also when you get your unit can you do a proper test yourself?

Actually I beg to differ on what amplifier they are using, I actually have the technical report back from an engineer who has identified it this will also be confirmed through an additional channel for posterities sake.  If it was their own amp designed by them there really would be no need for them to deface it by scraping the identifier pat number number off the top, I dont want to start another flame war but that is just a flat out lie they have told you.  The also used to put a copper hisound cover over the amp to disguise this part until someone pried it off in a past model.   Its flat out lies like this that jack (not his real name) will tell to try and deceive the community, the biggest one of which you can see right on the device where it says class A amplifier, IT IS NOT A CLASS A!! 100% FACT!!   all will be shown when I get this article and from there I will leave it alone.

post #145 of 693

The internal hisound player question is an ooooold past war and I think à lot people don't really care anymore...as they sound better than some with super ships and super components so...why don't some and their crusade worry about something else instead...mmmhh for example the comming of Nibiru planet and start watching the sky if there's two suns:-) ?...


Edited by sly_in_the_sky - 11/6/12 at 6:03am
post #146 of 693
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Still not finally decided on the color, It will be gun grey or light golden color or others, but not too bringt one. 

 

Wish Hisound goes for the gun grey, more sober and durable in terms of looks...

post #147 of 693
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okay, i have answers. firstly it wil have preset eq, and i think it will have fully custom eq (he said you can customise it).

 

also it will have a 10-12 hour battery life with flac when: it is a medium volume (middle- 50-60%) and it is running of the internal memory.

 

 

One more thing. hisound player arent the same as the other ones mentioned. the others uses a maxim amplifier (i think...thats what was claimed) whereas hisound designed the amp in their players themselves.so they arent exactly the same =)

Oh, I'm buying the cr** out of this thing.

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personally i think the whole class a thing is a bit  of a misunderstanding. i have asked  and they didnt mean it is class A in type but in quality. the same way they could of written first class amp or really good amp etc. any company that fits an actual class A amp inside a unit that small with a battery life of even 5 hours deserves an award.

 

As for tests, ill of course do all the standard battery stress tests(different brightness file type volume etc, great opertunity for burning in other things for review) and will include it all in my review.

 

and finally, i know nothing other than what i am told, and whist i have a decent knowledge of cuircuits etc (have a few modules of electronic engineering in my degree) i am not really ready to open up somthing i pay a lot of money for. so i only know what i am told which is that they make the amp themselves.

 

Personally i dont really think their pricing stratergy mattersor anything as long as I who am buying it think it sounds good. even if it is a plaebo, to me and many others it is good so i dont mind, the same way i wont ever knock someone for bying super expensive power cords even though i know it cant make a difference. if they can hear a difference, weather it is there or not,who am i to tell them they are wrong...whilst much of it lies in the facts, its the opinion of everyone that matters in the end.

post #149 of 693
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Originally Posted by Luluxpo View Post

 

Wish Hisound goes for the gun grey, more sober and durable in terms of looks...

 

if im not mistaken this will be gun metal and the nova 3 (in the same line as the studio 3rd) will be gold/champagne. thats what i hear and also what i hope they do.

post #150 of 693
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Wish Hisound goes for the gun grey, more sober and durable in terms of looks...

 

it is confirmed to be the gun grey color . other colors will be considered with the next batch of production. thanks.

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