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post #16 of 25

Great...

 

Now we can move on to our next lesson... Muddy Bass, and Sparkly Treble !!!

 

LOLz, Jim

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Originally Posted by ArmAndHammer View Post

Ok...now by using those graphs...I titally get the whole headphones being fun.

post #17 of 25

I know what you mean the graphs show peaks at all the right places.

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Originally Posted by ArmAndHammer View Post

Ok...now by using those graphs...I titally get the whole headphones being fun.

post #18 of 25

The tips are where its at, but there's also importance in the wavelengths that lead up to them.

 

The quintessential sound check for bass with these graphs is the Brrumsky.


Edited by FieldingMellish - 10/8/12 at 11:04am
post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 

To get back on track here, thanks guys. Yeah I like tight, controlled bass. I dont like it over-done, BUT I do like to hear the tight, controlled bass. Most cheapy headphones of course only have mids and highs.. I still wanna hear a "thump".

post #20 of 25

From looking at the graph, I'm into enhanced bass... Mmmm enhanced... 

 

And OP, what do you mean by "most CHEAPY headphones of course only have mids and highs.."? I find that most cheap headphones to have the opposite LOL. What everyone is trying to tell you is, the Etymotic line-up is very user picky. Some will love them, some will hate them. I personally love them and I know a dear local friend who hates them and prefers different signatures over the analytic, cold, and dead precise Etymotics.

post #21 of 25

My HF3's were my first somewhat higher end IEM's and coming from what I was used to (ultimate ears metrofi somethings i think?) they were both ******* awesome, but in a weird way also lacking. It didnt take long for me to get over that feeling of something missing because they sound so much better than anything I had heard up to that point, and honestly better than most of the IEM's I've heard period. Over time though I began feeling like I was missing out on something in my music. Referring back to the earlier discussion about headphones being labeled as "fun", I agree that "fun" is a much to relative term to use. You should stick to words like "soul" or "warmth," two things the Ety's lack (imho).

 

All that said, the HF3's are still some of my favorite IEM's. I just bought a pair of Sennheiser IE80's and they should be here in a couple days. Hopefully they'll impress as much as the HF3's have and help me find that missing piece I've missing with the Ety's.

post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by EliteGeek91 View Post

You just confused me.. well basically they have awesome reviews, but Im guessing they dont have any bass like over-the-ears would have right? Bass means alot to me..

 

They also inspire a lot of forum threads saying "My Etys are gutless and boring." (Which isn't quite fair - it's more that they don't suit certain genres.)

 

They tend to be a common first decent IEM and they've been around for a long time, so a lot of the reviews come from when the competition was much lower. Running against modern IEMs, the Philips SHE5390 is arguably better for a lot of genres - I prefer for it for rock and hiphop - and you can pick a pair up for $20. I'd expect the new wave of reasonably priced microdriver IEMS like the ATH CNK50 to be much better again. Unless a clear mid-range is your highest priority, the HF3 and HF5 are grossly over-priced.

 

Otoh, the unimpressive looking Etys are built to last and isolation is good.


Edited by scuttle - 2/20/13 at 7:10am
post #23 of 25
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Originally Posted by alv4426 View Post

I know what you mean the graphs show peaks at all the right places.

 

This is a lousy way to judge IEM bass.

 

The frequency response can easily be transformed beyond recognition by a DAP's equalizer. The problem with the Etys is that you can punch the bass up until it is utterly dominant (I have a Cowon J3 and its EQ can turn a flute solo into hip hop) but it will still be gutless and mediocre. This is because the Etys, like a lot of headphones and IEMs, can't produce satisfying bass transients - what should be a sharp SNAP! comes out more like a snaAPp. 

 

Otoh, JVC microdriver IEMs and HD25s produce a SNAP! with the equalizer set at any level.

post #24 of 25

Yes.... they're very good. except I don't have my pair anymore :/

post #25 of 25

READ what we were talking about before you post, especially since this was a semi necrobump. BTW the "graphs" in this thread are the best on Earth.

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Originally Posted by scuttle View Post

 

This is a lousy way to judge IEM bass.

 

The frequency response can easily be transformed beyond recognition by a DAP's equalizer. The problem with the Etys is that you can punch the bass up until it is utterly dominant (I have a Cowon J3 and its EQ can turn a flute solo into hip hop) but it will still be gutless and mediocre. This is because the Etys, like a lot of headphones and IEMs, can't produce satisfying bass transients - what should be a sharp SNAP! comes out more like a snaAPp. 

 

Otoh, JVC microdriver IEMs and HD25s produce a SNAP! with the equalizer set at any level.

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