Well those are pretty high standards to uphold. Nothing's as good as a bad pineapple, even.
Nutritionally challenged. That's good. I'll remember that.
I had the RE262 for a short time. I ended up returning them to Head Direct (I think that's who I bought them from at least).... I wasn't impressed with the sound at all. At least compared to what I had at the time. Compared to the IE80s with the tape mod and pure silver cable (as well as the MDR-7550) left me very underwhelmed.... :( I really set my expectations too high on that purchase but based on what I read I figured it would be very good. I read the entire thread and was very excited to get them thinking it would be the pairing I needed for the Studio V. Boy was I wrong.... That pretty much was the last straw with me making blind purchases (in general). While the 262 had decent mids. The treble was unrefined and on the harsh side. Bass was lacking in quantity. It's quality was ok I guess. Nothing to right home about. The sound staging was on the small side but acceptable for a dynamic IEM. I think anyone looking for this signature but a noticeably better IEM overall would have been set with the Sennheiser IE7. At one point you could have gotten these IEMs refurb for $92.00. I think even the MDR-7550 would be a very good choice and even better than the IE7.
Case in point even my former IE80 and MDR-7550 could not compare to the gear I have now. I was always chasing after gear to improve upon what I had and I'm at that point where it's not really possible anymore lol.... Anyways it would be interesting to hear your impressions on the 1Plus2 if you ever get a chance. Would probably shed some light on exactly what I'm talking about :).
It's been quite a journey here. I remember first starting off with the Bose IE2 thinking they were the ****. Started of with the older version of the Sansa e280 and under RMA they sent me a new prototype e280 v2. Which was using the same chip the Sansa Fuze would later use. I immediately noticed that improvement and it got me wondering if things could improve further. That brought me here to headfi and I started off with the IE8s. I remember first listening to them and was not very impressed. Was thinking did I just waste $260 on these IEMs? But within 20 minutes I started to hear the difference. Started noticing how refined they were and how spacious they were. Within hours the bose sounded horrible lol. Funny how much an upgrade can make gear that you previously found very good to sound flawed suddenly... :(
I've finally found another person who found the treble to be slightly unwieldy and not as smooth as people professed them to be! Good showing. The bass was fine for me, but my baseline for bass (no pun intended) is still the K702 so...everything seems bass heavy.
It's certainly small. I've found that with clean-sounding IEMs which happens to have proper amounts of decay, their stages usually share a similar shape. A small, slightly forward sphere of sound, be as it may. What I certainly found impressed with the RE series is how the transients weren't blurred or etched, and the dynamics were polite and not in your face. Just really, really clean. But thicker than the RE272 or the RE252 which I did vastly prefer over it. The 252 stage was even more oblong and stretched out. The IE7 is a bit too etched in comparison. Not nearly as polite.
Chasing the dragon is fun, but one day we'll all have to put down the shrooms. I'm just here for the fun. And maybe some foreign esoterica. I've heard amazing before. The SR-007 MK1. That was what I wanted most things to aspire to. Not the sig mind you, but everything else. Now I just need that presentation in an IEM and I can settle to find more fascinating sounds and gear, but with the comfort of having a reference to go back to.
Well technically I did hear the 1Plus2....once. It was GG's tour pair (the non-updated version) and the channel was dead in one of the earpieces. I'll probably have to set up something more formal later on. The new ones seem to be some sort of ubermensch's IEM. Never have I seen this sort of positive (and mostly positive, mind you) response last for so long.
Unlike you, I've pretty much just settled my purchases within the same tier of cost until recently. Not for any idealistic/impoverished reasons. Just wanted to try as many things as possible.
This stuff always does my head in when I try to understand it. Bear with me a bit, since I confuse myself whenever I even try to articulate this stuff. From what I've seen, the DF curve features a peak between 9-10 kHz. Now, I hear this peak a little lower, at around 7.6 kHz, in every single headphone I've ever tried. Yet the FF curve doesn't have this peak, and when I tested with my speakers, I heard what might have been a stunted peak (since the speakers weren't in a completely anechoic space and thus were reverberating somewhat off the walls) but nothing on the same order of magnitude as what I hear with headphones. So I hear a DF-like curve with headphones and a FF-like curve with speakers. That makes sense so far.
Here's where it gets confusing. The peak I hear in the mid-treble on headphones is lower than it appears on any of the measurements, so it's clearly not designed into the headphone itself, or else I would hear it in the same place as the dummy did. So it's something about the interface between the ear and the headphone that causes this peak. The only conclusion I can make is that there is something inherently DF-like about stopping the ears up with a pair of headphones.
If this is the case, then in order to make a pair of headphones sound like a set of speakers in a room, you'd need to minimize that mid-treble peak somehow. The trouble is that, as my experience demonstrates, it doesn't fall in the same place for each person, so you couldn't just engineer a dip into the headphone design at a precise frequency in order to compensate. The way I've been doing it is with a parametric EQ. In my experience it does make things sound more natural with this peak (and a few others intrinsic to the headphone itself) compensated for.
How crazy does all of this sound? Now you know why I have trouble wrapping my head around this stuff. There's got to be a simpler explanation I'm missing, or else some of my assumptions or understanding of the fundamental concepts involved might be wrong.
The curves are for reference only (a collected consensus) if I recall correctly. And they use that wishy-washy political term because they get people like you and me who experience the peaks differently. We all have slight variations which is why I'm a bit critical on the HRTF-antis. So unfortunately, yes, we'd still have to adjust accordingly to what we hear. Simply nothing the manufacturers can do about it. The responsibility falls unto us. Unless they install a Realiser into every existing headphone.
Unfortunately I don't have an AES account - http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=16768. So you'll have to do with the only raw DF graph I have on disk.