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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post

Kinda quiet here again. I guess everybody's in the same boat as me with being busy and all.

 

Anyway, while sort of hovering between asleep and awake and listening to music I had a weird idea. If you don't mind my habit of using this thread as sort of a dry run space for my weird notions (and occasional offbeat humor), I'll lay it out for you all.

 

Some background. Most people around Head-Fi have, shall we sugar coat it, a less than positive opinion about the Beats brand (not breaching news there I hope). About a week ago while walking between classes on campus I was idly musing about whether or not anybody has ever ripped out the original drivers (and NC unit, if it's one of the bigger models) and used the shells as donors to create a set that actually sounds good (or at least improved).

 

A quick search of the DIY forum indicates that, basically, nobody really got very far with that. But here's my idea: suppose somebody managed it. What if we took that modified Beats set, then got an identical looking (unmodified) one, and had a bunch of consumer class consumers try them both out and see which one they preferred. It'd have to be some form of blind test, in order to eliminate potential bias.

 

What I'm interested in finding out is, once separated from the "Beats iz teh BOMB its better than ANYTHING ELSE!!!!1111!!1" effect (since the two headphones appear identical), can (and will?) average people choose the better product? I'm trying to separate out why people who buy Beats continue thinking they're good after listening to them, even after comparing them with better equipment. How much of it is marketing, brand appeal, and image (I think a substantial portion is this), and how much of it is the typical consumer tendency to associate MOAR BASS with better?

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They turn up on Fleabay sometimes, busted, for cheap. Mostly it's headbands that are broken, though, which isn't what I need. I'm looking for somebody who blew the drivers, which I'm sure I've read has happened before. I also have zero experience with this sort of stuff and don't even have any tools to do it with. I'd need somebody who knows how to mod to build the set for me. I imagine it's a matter of suspending the Ax00 driver module in the proper position, then sealing the space around it. I don't know how to do either, let alone soldering the cables onto the new drivers.

 

Of course I'd go ahead and just borrow somebody else's working pair for the second set. Maybe I shouldn't tell them what I'm doing, though, or they'd be insulted. biggrin.gif

Wanted to try but too expensive to get those Beats in the first place, be it real or fake. Not spending $70 on a headphone just to gut it. Even for science. For myself is a different story :D (okay, ONCE OR TWICE only) but I wouldn't wear beats in the first place, not my type of look.

Sounds like fun though.

 

As far as which they will rate better, in the end comes back to personal preferences. Just as we, on Head-Fi, have varied preferences, the general consumer will as well (just more gullible and have less real personal opinion on what is "good").

 

And, sacrilege as it is, I'll say...!
Beats don't sound terrible given the right type of music. They're just awful in a value standpoint. And mostly not particularly amazing sounding either.

 

 

If you can provide me the shells I can try to make the modified version biggrin.gif (<--- actually, can't guarantee "good sound" so I guess maybe not)

But borrowing someone else's working pair => be prepared to reimburse him in case it breaks. you know... beats seem to excel at that if anything.


Edited by kalbee - 1/18/13 at 3:21pm
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but IMO, when he said "borrows someone's pair" is for the control of the experiment. Since in his suggested experiment is to compare a modded one and a stock one, borrowing someone else's for the stock is the cheapest way.
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Warning: On Topic Content Ahead.

 

JJ has been quite popular. I've been seeing quite a few folks out there with themed avatars, some of whom haven't even stepped foot in our epic thread. The word is getting round that TMAC is the cool thing to do.

 

So I guess it's time to consider in earnest what we're doing for February. So far we've had two suggestions that I recall, one being to be as dazzlingly excessive as possible (as per the numerous "F" words that mean just that), and the other being to honor a Head-Fi'er who has left these parts (temporarily or for good) but who contributed a lot to the community.

 

Of course the floor is still open to suggestions.

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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post

Warning: On Topic Content Ahead.

 

JJ has been quite popular. I've been seeing quite a few folks out there with themed avatars, some of whom haven't even stepped foot in our epic thread. The word is getting round that TMAC is the cool thing to do.

 

So I guess it's time to consider in earnest what we're doing for February. So far we've had two suggestions that I recall, one being to be as dazzlingly excessive as possible (as per the numerous "F" words that mean just that), and the other being to honor a Head-Fi'er who has left these parts (temporarily or for good) but who contributed a lot to the community.

 

Of course the floor is still open to suggestions.

Dunno who the F refers to..

 

 

lol the excessive stuff makes me think of "Fabulous Faggotry", we all be as gay as possible. Of course its not meant to be offensive, but I have a feeling it can turn that way quickly.

Of course I like to push the limits. Lets do this.

 

Freddie February - Thunderbolts and lightening, very very frightening

Fake February - bad idea cans... makes me think of beats fest so bad idea. 

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The fabulous part is one of the words. I know Jgray had some other adjectives, though I'm having trouble remembering what they were now. Actually, fantastic might have been one of them.

 

If we wanted to do something with Freddie Mercury, I guess we'd have to pick iconic pictures. Album covers, perhaps, or maybe a still frame from the Bohemian Rhapsody video (the part with all the heads).

 

How about Fanatical February, or FOTM February, where we all vote on one FOTM headphone (current or historic) and make up avatars based on it. I think we can all guess which one will win based on those criteria *cough* M50 *cough*, but it might be more fun to choose a current FOTM that's well known. It's been ages since I've spent much time in the equipment forums, though, so somebody else would have to gauge the eligibility of such a headphone for our vote.

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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post

Warning: On Topic Content Ahead.

JJ has been quite popular. I've been seeing quite a few folks out there with themed avatars, some of whom haven't even stepped foot in our epic thread. The word is getting round that TMAC is the cool thing to do.

So I guess it's time to consider in earnest what we're doing for February. So far we've had two suggestions that I recall, one being to be as dazzlingly excessive as possible (as per the numerous "F" words that mean just that), and the other being to honor a Head-Fi'er who has left these parts (temporarily or for good) but who contributed a lot to the community.

Of course the floor is still open to suggestions.

Good man, Argyris. I was just about to call forth the council. I had this stupid idea in mind called Fapbruary...but that's taking it too far maybe. I'm still not sure.

But I agree that anything February must at least have one of these: fabulous, fantastic, uhhhh....
post #2407 of 11505
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Originally Posted by jgray91 View Post


Good man, Argyris. I was just about to call forth the council. I had this stupid idea in mind called Fapbruary...but that's taking it too far maybe. I'm still not sure.

But I agree that anything February must at least have one of these: fabulous, fantastic, uhhhh....

fantastic and fabulous fapbruary. 

 

I'd love to see the avatars for that.... wait... thats slightly homosexual. 

 

Freddie thing is too limited.

 

FOTM could be good. however is it good and bad or only bad?

  • ATH-M50
  • ODAC
  • M&M
  • HE-400
  • Denon D2000
  • AKG K550
  • Philips Fidelio L1
  • Fiio E17
  • Koss Portapro
  • Xears TD-III
  • V-moda M100

 

 

What about headpones that we all THOUGHT was gonna be awesum, and wasn't as much as the hype:

  • Philips Fidelio L1
  • Shure SRH1440 + SRH1840
  • Sennheiser HD700
  • BeyerDynamic Custom One
  • UE6000
  • Sennheiser Amperiors (debateable)
  • AKG K550
  • new sony XB line
  • the ENTIRE new Denon range - the definition of fantastically failed february

 

wait a minute.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

avatar must have "FAIL" stamped all over it.


Edited by WiR3D - 1/22/13 at 1:36am
post #2408 of 11505

Actually, that's quite good. Fantastically Failed February. Pile on the biggest disappointments of the past year. Treble spikes and weak bass and the gutting of entire product lines for no discernible reason. All with the stamp FAIL in big "meme font" letters.

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Failbruary you mean...
post #2410 of 11505
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Originally Posted by jgray91 View Post

Failbruary you mean...

Fantastic Failbruary

 

Sounds good to me

post #2411 of 11505
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But to take some FOTM headphones and stamp it with meme-font FAIL is kind of provocative, in the sense that people would launch into zealous rage-tirade why the failed FOTM is the second coming of Jesus, the cure for cancer, AIDS and old age, and the best thing since sex. I don't think it's worth it.
post #2412 of 11505
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Originally Posted by jgray91 View Post

But to take some FOTM headphones and stamp it with meme-font FAIL is kind of provocative, in the sense that people would launch into zealous rage-tirade why the failed FOTM is the second coming of Jesus, the cure for cancer, AIDS and old age, and the best thing since sex. I don't think it's worth it.

No not FOTM, just disappointing headphones, like the Denon Range.

post #2413 of 11505

If we wanted to avoid the potential flame wars, we could always just drop the headphone aspect entirely and just post random pictures of obvious FAIL moments. Or maybe, if we wanted to stick with audio, people doing dumb things with headphones or headphone-related equipment.

 

It'd have to be obvious what's happening in the picture at avatar-size, though, so that kind of limits what can be done with this kind of idea.

post #2414 of 11505
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LL

That would do.

Oh, I have a newer idea: Fantastically Fabulous Flame Failbruary. We could all get banned fo realz
post #2415 of 11505
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Originally Posted by jgray91 View Post


Good man, Argyris. I was just about to call forth the council. I had this stupid idea in mind called Fapbruary...but that's taking it too far maybe. I'm still not sure.

But I agree that anything February must at least have one of these: fabulous, fantastic, uhhhh....

That would get at least one of us banned....lol.

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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post

Fantastic Failbruary

 

Sounds good to me

Yes!

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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post

If we wanted to avoid the potential flame wars, we could always just drop the headphone aspect entirely and just post random pictures of obvious FAIL moments. Or maybe, if we wanted to stick with audio, people doing dumb things with headphones or headphone-related equipment.

 

It'd have to be obvious what's happening in the picture at avatar-size, though, so that kind of limits what can be done with this kind of idea.

Failbruary, I was as first thinking pictures of triple-amped portable rigs, but Argyris is right, the size of the avatar image could be an issue.

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