The K/Q 701s have just as peaky of a treble as the Ultrasones do. And realistic bass ?
" but the only genres they don't do well are bass heavy genres that rely on the beat (i.e. genres that most audiophiles don't listen to.) "
They actually don't reproduce bass well period, regardless of genre. And I like that assumption at the end... I've seen too many people spend hundreds of dollars solely for their EDM and dubstep music.
Ew.. it's the K701 hater again. Audiophile = person concerned/obsessed with sound quality. Idiot consumer = person who spends hundreds of dollars on headphones *cough* beats *cough* to listen to dubsteb. Big difference. Now I fail to see why people need hundreds of dollars of distortion free hi-fi headphones to listen to distortion.
The treble of my K 702s couldn't be any more different from the treble of my Ultrasones. K 702 treble is bright in all the right places but relatively mild in the extreme upper frequencies. Ultrasone treble is all over the map with a huge spike in the upper mids and a huge spike at barely-audible high frequencies and a tinny/hollow valley in between. One is bright in a powerful, airy way, the other is bright in a brittle, metallic way (honestly the only other treble I've hated as much as the Ultrasones was Grado).
I would say the Ultrasone and AKG sound as far as two headphones can sound from one another. Of all the headphones I've owned they are the greatest representatives of extreme opposites, the Ultrasones sounding like an SPL car audio system with a row of 12" subs in the trunk and badly placed component tweeters, the AKGs sounding very "tubey" and at times letting you forget you have headphones on.
K 702s have by far the most realistic bass I've ever heard in a headphone also. Realistic bass means "sounds like an actual kick drum/bass guitar/distant explosiont". NOT like a subwoofer. That's something most people don't like, because most people are far more used to listening to music through thumpy mushy speakers than playing an acoustic instrument and it sounds "weird" to them. Beyerdynamic bass is mush to me. I couldn't get over how artificially smoothed out and monotone it was. If bass the foundation of music, then most headphones have a foundation made out of jello and olive oil due to the proximity effect. The K 70x foundation is made out of granite. It doesn't shake much, and whether that's a good or bad thing depends on the listener.
No doubt they don't suit dubstep/rap, and no offense to anyone into dubstep/rap, but I would rather have my eardrums removed than listen to that stuff, so that's where my K 702 romance comes from. For "random zany sound effect/screaming jock" youth music the K 701/702s absolutely suck but for organic reproduction of classical, vocal, acoustic, prog rock, ambient electronic or pretty much any pre-mid '90s genres (when bass lost all self control and "cool" rather than high quality audio brands took over) and a huge soundstage they are amazing.
I will add that I like the K 702s for trance, but trance is kind different from other electronica and focuses more on melody and harmony rather than huge digital sounds and ridiculous bass, so that's obviously why.
Edited by machoboy - 10/8/12 at 4:56am