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post #1561 of 2422
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

 

Just a simple extension cable. Something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-35-3-5mm-Male-to-3-5mm-Female-headphone-earphone-Extension-Cable-Audio-Adapter-/261281229633?pt=US_MP3_Player_Cables_Adapters&var=&hash=item3cd5932b41 . You want 3.3m cable, so you just need to buy a simple 2m extension cable. You can just go to the nearest electronics store and they'll surely have few option for several bucks. Of course you can look around for more expensive cables if you're the type who believes a more expensive quality cable sounds better but I suggest if you choose this path to not get one that costs more than 20-30 bucks.

 

 

I don't know why this didn't cross my mind in my original post. This route is definitely much cheaper.

post #1562 of 2422
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Postyet.


Well, I've owned both. IMO, the BE is bassy, has recessed mids, and the MK2 has PLENTY of bass. Ear holes are different, YMMV. wink.gif

Just chiming in on here. After reading the posters impressions, it seems I mat like the BE. I had 2 MK1's and I really like the bass, yet I amped it for just a tad more. Please be patient with my question as I haven;t read much. Are the mids truly recessed? More than the MK1's (or MK2's)? I found the mids near perfect on the MK1's. reason why I chose not to replace the MK1's I got tired of the highs. I think my ear holes are a little sensitive to the high highs in general, not necessarily with SSssssssiblance but actual definition. I have not yet found a dynamic (and I've had several, some high ends) where I really thought the highs were sufficient. I truly like recessed highs or rolled of a bit where I have to dig for them, rather them competing with the Mids.

 

Anyways my question again, are the mids recessed, and would you consider MK1 (or MK2's) recessed Thank You

post #1563 of 2422
bes - recessed
mk2s - not recessed
post #1564 of 2422
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

bes - recessed
mk2s - not recessed

In no way would I consider the mids recessed on the BEs. Not quite as prominent as the MK2s but that doesn't mean they are recessed. They add a touch of mid bass hump compared to the MK2 and that might not being them forward or anything but recessed is just wrong.
post #1565 of 2422

If I get the GR07 BE, I would be using them with a 45 band equalization.  It would be a cup cake looking equalization or a W looking equalization if the mids are recessed, with the middle peak at 1 kHz.  Would these have enough bass punch and sub bass feel under these conditions?  I like a lot of bass, just like bassheads.  But, I HATE bassy mids and bass denatured highs.  From what I have read about these, they have clean mids and good quality treble  The question here is if I can get enough bass from these for EDM stuff, after equalization.

 

Bass impact is greater the cleaner the mids and highs are.  With clean mids and highs, it is possible that the GR07 BE may have as good as or greater bass impact than other IEMs that are preferred by bassheads such as the XB90EX or the FX700 or the FXZ200.  It is not just how much bass you get that determines the bass impact and bass experience.  It is quantity and quality and its contrast with the mids and highs.  For example, the better the highs, the greater the bass impact will be with the same amount of bass.  Soundstage also makes a difference.  A small soundstage takes away impact from the bass.

 

So, how is the sub bass and bass punch of the GR07 BE with EDM stuff using a highly capable equalizer?

post #1566 of 2422

Still not sure if I am gonna grab some cheap mkII or wait for the new vsd line. :confused:

post #1567 of 2422
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

bes - recessed
mk2s - not recessed

 

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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

bes - recessed
mk2s - not recessed
In no way would I consider the mids recessed on the BEs. Not quite as prominent as the MK2s but that doesn't mean they are recessed. They add a touch of mid bass hump compared to the MK2 and that might not being them forward or anything but recessed is just wrong.

^ You know i have wanted to say something about this for a long minute, Jodiuh you need to seriously stop spreading dis/misinformation regarding these gr07 BEs. Amazon shipped you the BEs by mistake and you had them in your possessions for like a couple of days, a week or 2 max??? How long did you burn them in for???

 

I am not saying that your "impressions"/ opinions are not appreciated but you didn't even seem to have them long enough to truly tell what they sounded like, plus many others that have had/ own both which has done extensive a/b between the two editions say there is only small differences in the sonic presentation. The bass edition like dynsty25 stated only has slightly elevated sub/ mid bass response while the rest of the sonic spectrum is about the same in forwardness/ presentation as the MKIIs judging by all the impressions so far.

 

If you have a/b the two and have owned both for quite some time then you are more then welcome to post what you think, but your dislike/hate toward these BEs is more grounded in your frustration of amazon shipping you the wrong edition of the iem it seems.

 

/rant

post #1568 of 2422
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post
 

If I get the GR07 BE, I would be using them with a 45 band equalization.  It would be a cup cake looking equalization or a W looking equalization if the mids are recessed, with the middle peak at 1 kHz.  Would these have enough bass punch and sub bass feel under these conditions?  I like a lot of bass, just like bassheads.  But, I HATE bassy mids and bass denatured highs.  From what I have read about these, they have clean mids and good quality treble  The question here is if I can get enough bass from these for EDM stuff, after equalization.

 

Bass impact is greater the cleaner the mids and highs are.  With clean mids and highs, it is possible that the GR07 BE may have as good as or greater bass impact than other IEMs that are preferred by bassheads such as the XB90EX or the FX700 or the FXZ200.  It is not just how much bass you get that determines the bass impact and bass experience.  It is quantity and quality and its contrast with the mids and highs.  For example, the better the highs, the greater the bass impact will be with the same amount of bass.  Soundstage also makes a difference.  A small soundstage takes away impact from the bass.

 

So, how is the sub bass and bass punch of the GR07 BE with EDM stuff using a highly capable equalizer?

 

 Sony XB90EX have 16mm driver, GR07 BE physically can not give strong sub bass. To my ear GR07 BE is very boring.


Edited by stimer - 10/6/13 at 1:54pm
post #1569 of 2422
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Originally Posted by stimer View Post
 

 

 Sony XB90EX have 16mm driver, GR07 BE physically can not give strong sub bass.

^ You are correct, and i would say the sub bass on the BEs are satisfactory for even bass heads, but where these BEs excels over the Sonys is the bass texture. The texture of the gr07 BEs simply outclasses the Sonys. Those 90EXs are no joke as well, cuz they are truly an audiophile quality basshead iem, pretty well balanced across the sonic spectrum despite that crazy deep sub bass rumble.

post #1570 of 2422
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Originally Posted by dbdynsty25 View Post


In no way would I consider the mids recessed on the BEs. Not quite as prominent as the MK2s but that doesn't mean they are recessed. They add a touch of mid bass hump compared to the MK2 and that might not being them forward or anything but recessed is just wrong.

 

True, I'd only say that directly compared to the MKI or MKII are they 'recessed' but that is only in conjunction with the 2-3dB bump in the bass region...mid recession is a result of that by default.  Alone, the BE is still fairly linear compared to most IEMs, and probably more than any other with 'bass' in the name.


Edited by modulor - 10/6/13 at 5:37pm
post #1571 of 2422
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 
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Originally Posted by stimer View Post
 

 

 Sony XB90EX have 16mm driver, GR07 BE physically can not give strong sub bass.

^ You are correct, and i would say the sub bass on the BEs are satisfactory for even bass heads, but where these BEs excels over the Sonys is the bass texture. The texture of the gr07 BEs simply outclasses the Sonys. Those 90EXs are no joke as well, cuz they are truly an audiophile quality basshead iem, pretty well balanced across the sonic spectrum despite that crazy deep sub bass rumble.

Thank you, sfwalcer!

 

What is your choice for EDM, then?  Which IEMs do you enjoy the most with EDM?  A little less bass with better mids and highs will result in better bass impact.

 

Bass impact = bass enjoyment.

post #1572 of 2422
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Originally Posted by stimer View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post
 

If I get the GR07 BE, I would be using them with a 45 band equalization.  It would be a cup cake looking equalization or a W looking equalization if the mids are recessed, with the middle peak at 1 kHz.  Would these have enough bass punch and sub bass feel under these conditions?  I like a lot of bass, just like bassheads.  But, I HATE bassy mids and bass denatured highs.  From what I have read about these, they have clean mids and good quality treble  The question here is if I can get enough bass from these for EDM stuff, after equalization.

 

Bass impact is greater the cleaner the mids and highs are.  With clean mids and highs, it is possible that the GR07 BE may have as good as or greater bass impact than other IEMs that are preferred by bassheads such as the XB90EX or the FX700 or the FXZ200.  It is not just how much bass you get that determines the bass impact and bass experience.  It is quantity and quality and its contrast with the mids and highs.  For example, the better the highs, the greater the bass impact will be with the same amount of bass.  Soundstage also makes a difference.  A small soundstage takes away impact from the bass.

 

So, how is the sub bass and bass punch of the GR07 BE with EDM stuff using a highly capable equalizer?

 

 Sony XB90EX have 16mm driver, GR07 BE physically can not give strong sub bass. To my ear GR07 BE is very boring.

 

Have you listened to the XB90EX?

 

The AH-C300 have 11.5mm drivers and deliver as much sub bass as the XB90EX.  See it here with the XB90EX FR graph first:

 

01.FRM_SONY_MDR-XB90EX.png

 

 

 

Here is the AH-C300 FR graph:

 

01.FRM_DENON_AH-C300.png 


Edited by Alberto01 - 10/6/13 at 5:56pm
post #1573 of 2422
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post
 

Thank you, sfwalcer!

 

What is your choice for EDM, then?  Which IEMs do you enjoy the most with EDM?  A little less bass with better mids and highs will result in better bass impact.

 

Bass impact = bass enjoyment.

haha i am not hip enough to listen to EDM sadly, unless hip hop counts as EDM music as well??? :blink:

 

For my hippity hoppity needs, my FXZ200s, gr07 BEs, M200 are more than suffice. But if you want budget sets, the Vsonic VSD1 is an amazing iem for cheap. The Sony MH1Cs are also great but you know about the horrid cable and all. Bass impact/ slam the VSD1 got an leg up on the Sonys cuz the MH1C has more of a smoother/ rounder bass while the VSD1s is much better textured, punchy and faster, which i believe is better for EDM???

 

edit: yes i have heard the 90exs as well as many audiophile "bass" iems recently. Was all Bassed out!!! :basshead:

 

This is all you need to read. : P

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-brainwavz-delta-r3-dual-dynamic-pg948-onkyo-phones-pg-904-kef-m200-pg835-philips-fidelio-s2-pg-724/11970#post_9617130

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-brainwavz-delta-r3-dual-dynamic-pg948-onkyo-phones-pg-904-kef-m200-pg835-philips-fidelio-s2-pg-724/13635#post_9765146


Edited by sfwalcer - 10/6/13 at 5:59pm
post #1574 of 2422
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post
 

Thank you, sfwalcer!

 

What is your choice for EDM, then?  Which IEMs do you enjoy the most with EDM?  A little less bass with better mids and highs will result in better bass impact.

 

Bass impact = bass enjoyment.

haha i am not hip enough to listen to EDM sadly, unless hip hop counts as EDM music as well??? :blink:

 

For my hippity hoppity needs, my FXZ200s, gr07 BEs, M200 are more than suffice. But if you want budget sets, the Vsonic VSD1 is an amazing iem for cheap. The Sony MH1Cs are also great but you know about the horrid cable and all. Bass impact/ slam the VSD1 got an leg up on the Sonys cuz the MH1C has more of a smoother/ rounder bass while the VSD1s is much better textured, punchy and faster, which i believe is better for EDM???

 

edit: yes i have heard the 90exs as well as many audiophile "bass" iems recently. Was all Bassed out!!! :basshead:

 

This is all you need to read. : P

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-brainwavz-delta-r3-dual-dynamic-pg948-onkyo-phones-pg-904-kef-m200-pg835-philips-fidelio-s2-pg-724/11970#post_9617130

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-brainwavz-delta-r3-dual-dynamic-pg948-onkyo-phones-pg-904-kef-m200-pg835-philips-fidelio-s2-pg-724/13635#post_9765146

 

You asked me what EDM was about 6 months ago.  Here is the answer:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/641571/the-new-ath-cks1000/240#post_9365090

 

 

Pick one model of all those that you have tried as the one that you like the best.

post #1575 of 2422
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post
 

 

You asked me what EDM was about 6 months ago.  Here is the answer:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/641571/the-new-ath-cks1000/240#post_9365090

 

 

Pick one model of all those that you have tried as the one that you like the best.

oh right haha, you got good memory, sadly i don't so take my advice with a grain of salt. :tongue:

 

If you are into vocal trance, etc the ATH CKS1000s is the way to go it seems, since Ds and others keep saying how amazing it is for trance due to its very sparkly and forward treble. Like i said there is NOTHING recessed on those 1Ks and everything is forward esp. the big/ deep sub bass combined with a huge soundstage it doesn't get any better.  It has the best/ most bass rumble as well.

 

The FXZ200s has slightly recessed mids and treble is not as sparkly along with an average soundstage so it isn't as great for vocals and such. But these have the most powerful sound and presentation out of the three.

 

The gr07 BEs is like a flatter more polite version of the ATH CKS1Ks, nothing is recessed on the BEs as well and they are great texture to their bass, but it is just not as engaging/ aggressive in it's presentations as the FXZ200s or the CKS1000s. The BEs is bordering on a monitor type of sound but yet it manages to be fun/ engaging albeit less aggressive. Mids are lush/ forward and the treble is sparkly with great extension as well. It's the best choice if you are looking for something more balanced/ analytical but don't want to sacrifice any of your bass needs.

 

SO for me the best pick is undoubtedly the ATH CKS1Ks for the type of music you are looking for. But they have to go under a pretty extensive burn-in beat down process in order to truly tame their more aggressive treble.


Edited by sfwalcer - 10/7/13 at 1:23pm
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