VSonic GR07 Bass Edition Impressions - Page 10

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Originally Posted by modulor 

I have some Ts100s as well (had originally gotten them for my Atrio MG7) but never thought to try stretching them to size.  Do you noticed a change compared to the stock foams?  I had thought about getting either the Ts200 or Ts400 to try, but if the 100s don't affect the sound I'll give them a try!  I currently use genuine sony hybrids (easily found on Amazon for about $8) and found those to be the most comfortable to date, and I feel they are pretty good at noise cancellation.  I've never tried the SE215 so I can't compare there.

Well, I am not a fan of hybrids. I like the seal but it is too easily broken with movement for me. Also they have always itched. I have become accustomed to foams and prefer the seal and isolation I get over any minor sound changes. I am careful though. The Complys I am using are the comfort versions. They are more rounded and shorter than the normal Complys. They have a fairly large opening. I use the large version so they seal a good bit better for me than the supplied tips. The supplied tips are longer and if I insert them deeply they opening is closed off. I thought I had a bad set when I first received them trying the foams. I wasn't getting any sound from the right side and it was just the tip closed off where I had it too deep. 

I may try some normal Complys eventually. I have one set of Shure Olives I would like to try as well. They are actually my favorite over the Complys but the opening is smaller and they are harder to stretch. Stretching the Complys is easy and I think makes the tips much more secure than the core mod on the larger Complys. Just my take though. Either would work.

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Originally Posted by awtryau89 

Well, I am not a fan of hybrids. I like the seal but it is too easily broken with movement for me. Also they have always itched. I have become accustomed to foams and prefer the seal and isolation I get over any minor sound changes. I am careful though. The Complys I am using are the comfort versions. They are more rounded and shorter than the normal Complys. They have a fairly large opening. I use the large version so they seal a good bit better for me than the supplied tips. The supplied tips are longer and if I insert them deeply they opening is closed off. I thought I had a bad set when I first received them trying the foams. I wasn't getting any sound from the right side and it was just the tip closed off where I had it too deep. 

 

I may try some normal Complys eventually. I have one set of Shure Olives I would like to try as well. They are actually my favorite over the Complys but the opening is smaller and they are harder to stretch. Stretching the Complys is easy and I think makes the tips much more secure than the core mod on the larger Complys. Just my take though. Either would work.

I actually had a few minutes to spare at work, so I used a small phillips screwdriver to widen the inner canals on a pair of Ts-100 and fit them on up to the back knuckle.  They do fit nice and tight and seem quite secure - only thing I'm worried about is if the narrower opening of the 100 series will have a negative effect compared to say a 200 series or any of the stock tips.  Have you noticed a difference in SQ using the Ts-100?  I'll be able to test them out in a bit.

I haven't but granted I haven't listened to anything else with these. I could do some experimenting and probably will eventually.

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Trying some of the hybrids with foam from the box and there is a huge difference in treble and sibilance. I guess I have a long way to go for breaking with just under 50 hours so far. So I can say for sure the stretched Complys did cut down on the highs a decent amount. Not sure what it does to the overall soundstage until I could do some serious listening.

I now wonder about finding more of these hybrids with the foam. I really like the isolation. I think its as good as the Comply comforts but probably not as good as the normal Complys. Where can I get more of these?

Update 2:

Went back to the Complys and there definitely notice the loss in the highs with them but now I can hear the huge loss in isolation the hybrids have. So I guess I am going to look for Complys or foamies with larger openings.

I took some pics for others that are interested: http://imgur.com/a/H5jqy

I'll try them out a bit and switch back to the hybrids to see if I notice a difference in soundstage...the difference in treble may be of benefit to some, but if the soundstage is affected it may not be worth it.  The comfort is quite nice...I may have to bite the bullet and try the Ts-200.  I would recommend picking up some of the official Sony hybrids from Amazon, they can be had for a good price: 

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-EPEX10A-BLK-Replacement-Earbuds/dp/B001RB24UA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358889151&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+hybrids

I have a bunch of Sony hybrids. I have tried them now as well. None of them come close to the isolation of the Complys. I went out to Radio Shack and got some of their Ts400s. These have the largest holes and require a core mod. I used some of my old Sony hybrids and cut the cores out and put them on with those. These seem to be perfect. The isolation and bass is outstanding. The highs and sibilance is definitely on par with the hybrids due to the opening being so large. I think these will work for now but if the 200s will fit without the core mod they may be the best solution. 

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This is amazing. I am sitting here listening to Dave Matthews hearing things I have never heard before. I would definitely recommend against the Ts100s or any narrow/small tube tips. Even the supplied hybrids have a smaller opening than these. I cut the core of the hybrids down to where they do not cover any part of the GR07 nozzle when putting on these Ts400s. I am getting alot more sibilance but the soundstage depth, separation and air is out of this world.

 even the t200s are loose on gr07 mine would pop off and stay I'm my ear when I took the headphones out :( what did to get the 200s  to work was removed the core from the supplied forms and put them on the nozzle first then the comply over it fit a nice snug fit with no overhang like the t100s  would be

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Originally Posted by awtryau89 

I have a bunch of Sony hybrids. I have tried them now as well. None of them come close to the isolation of the Complys. I went out to Radio Shack and got some of their Ts400s. These have the largest holes and require a core mod. I used some of my old Sony hybrids and cut the cores out and put them on with those. These seem to be perfect. The isolation and bass is outstanding. The highs and sibilance is definitely on par with the hybrids due to the opening being so large. I think these will work for now but if the 200s will fit without the core mod they may be the best solution. 

 

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This is amazing. I am sitting here listening to Dave Matthews hearing things I have never heard before. I would definitely recommend against the Ts100s or any narrow/small tube tips. Even the supplied hybrids have a smaller opening than these. I cut the core of the hybrids down to where they do not cover any part of the GR07 nozzle when putting on these Ts400s. I am getting alot more sibilance but the soundstage depth, separation and air is out of this world.

Yeah, my concensus on the Ts-100 after a 30 minute listening session was a no go...it did have an impact on the soundstage and was a bit muffling.  When I switched back to the hybrids, all was golden again.  I didn't realize RadioShack carried Complys!  I'll have to try out your 400 series mod using cores from the hybrids, since I have like 6 sizes that won't ever fit me :)  So, did you use the official sony hybrid cores or the supplied vsonic hybrids?  Pics if you can.

I used some cores from tiny Sony Hybrids I would never use. I am traveling and won't be able to get pics until the weekend.

So, I probably read the head-fi forums at least 5 times a day, but don't post too often.  However, after much research, and a lot of experience with many different iems, I ordered the Vsonic Gr07 Bass Edition.  As of right now, I only have around 10 hours of burn-in on them, and I am aware that these guys require a LOT more time on the burner.  However, I'm posting today to share how impressed I've been with them even straight out of the box.  I have rather large ear canals, and I tend to struggle with most iems in terms of fit.  These things fit me perfectly with the included tips.  I find them to be extremely comfortable, and the cable and build quality appear to be nothing short of top-notch.  While they sound great with 320kbps mp3s, lossless audio just sounds incredible (even if its just the placebo effect).  I am a full fledged "bass-junkie", and I find even before complete burn in that these have some of the most satisfying bass I've ever heard out of an iem!  To me, they are the perfect balance of bass depth, impact, body, and accuracy.  So much so, that for the first time in years, I'm so happy with my purchase, that I don't plan on ordering anymore for a while.  That's saying a lot, as I tend to buy a new pair every few months or more.  The best part... these bad boys aren't even close to being fully burned in! (While I am aware of the ongoing "burn-in" controversy, the Gr07 is one of the most talked about iem with regards to the sound improvement following burn-in)  That means these things are only gonna get better!  On top of all that, i've been doing almost all of my listening straight out of my iphone 4s, unamped.  Even their efficiency is amazing.  If anyone has any questions, feel free to respond.  While I listen to almost every genre of music (not a big country fan though), I am a hip-hop expert and have been since the day I was born, so finding an iem that does hip-hop well without having an overwhelming mid-bass hump, bloated bass, or overly recessed mids has been quite trying.  But so far, I am in love with these.  Especially on well produced albums.  The new Big Boi album "Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors" is incredible on these!  Particularly the tracks "Objectum Sexuality" and "Lines".  Whoah!  I have to run, but I will be sure to post more impressions upon further listening... 

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Originally Posted by Gorktastick 

So, I probably read the head-fi forums at least 5 times a day, but don't post too often.  However, after much research, and a lot of experience with many different iems, I ordered the Vsonic Gr07 Bass Edition.  As of right now, I only have around 10 hours of burn-in on them, and I am aware that these guys require a LOT more time on the burner.  However, I'm posting today to share how impressed I've been with them even straight out of the box.  I have rather large ear canals, and I tend to struggle with most iems in terms of fit.  These things fit me perfectly with the included tips.  I find them to be extremely comfortable, and the cable and build quality appear to be nothing short of top-notch.  While they sound great with 320kbps mp3s, lossless audio just sounds incredible (even if its just the placebo effect).  I am a full fledged "bass-junkie", and I find even before complete burn in that these have some of the most satisfying bass I've ever heard out of an iem!  To me, they are the perfect balance of bass depth, impact, body, and accuracy.  So much so, that for the first time in years, I'm so happy with my purchase, that I don't plan on ordering anymore for a while.  That's saying a lot, as I tend to buy a new pair every few months or more.  The best part... these bad boys aren't even close to being fully burned in! (While I am aware of the ongoing "burn-in" controversy, the Gr07 is one of the most talked about iem with regards to the sound improvement following burn-in)  That means these things are only gonna get better!  On top of all that, i've been doing almost all of my listening straight out of my iphone 4s, unamped.  Even their efficiency is amazing.  If anyone has any questions, feel free to respond.  While I listen to almost every genre of music (not a big country fan though), I am a hip-hop expert and have been since the day I was born, so finding an iem that does hip-hop well without having an overwhelming mid-bass hump, bloated bass, or overly recessed mids has been quite trying.  But so far, I am in love with these.  Especially on well produced albums.  The new Big Boi album "Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors" is incredible on these!  Particularly the tracks "Objectum Sexuality" and "Lines".  Whoah!  I have to run, but I will be sure to post more impressions upon further listening... 

Hip hop is particularly impressive on these - Black Star was the last hip hop album I listened to and it was thoroughly enjoyed.  They are certainly up to any task, performing well with every artist and genre I've tried (similar to you, I listen to pretty much everything except country).  They are such a good all-arounder that I've reduced my portable collection to just the BE paired with my Cowon J3.  I was impressed right out of the box as well, but they do seem to benefit from burn in..perhaps it's more of a trait of the bio-cellulose driver design, but who knows.  Mental or physical burn in aside, I know I'll have these as my only portable for a long time.

Did the packaging for the GR07 change?  I got mines in yesterday and it looked nothing like the packaging shown here.  Just wondering.

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Originally Posted by diddy808 

Did the packaging for the GR07 change?  I got mines in yesterday and it looked nothing like the packaging shown here.  Just wondering.

I think it did. I accidentally ordered another one about two weeks ago and it was completely different from my first pair. Both were MKIIs. Haven't received the bass editions yet.

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Originally Posted by atomikn00b 

I think it did. I accidentally ordered another one about two weeks ago and it was completely different from my first pair. Both were MKIIs. Haven't received the bass editions yet.

I just noticed in the Vsonic GC02 thread that the packaging looks the same.

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Originally Posted by mochill 

I recompared the bass edition to my jvc fxz200 and I gotta say the bass edition sound way better

ha!

I hope you didn't mention that in the jvc thread.

And if you did. You're a brave soul.

Side note: I hope more people who feel the gr07 mkII could use a bit more bass get the chance to try the bass editions.