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post #136 of 181

Thanks everyone for a great meet. I really enjoyed it. Thanks to Barry for having a Senn 650 to try, LCD 2's to drool over, and letting my run my Mad Dogs off the Lyr, a pairing I've heard so much about. Thanks to WJE and Justin for enabling me to get together an HE 400 and HE 500 for A/B testing to figure out what the extra $300 buys you... and that I can't live without it (and helping me realize they both sound pretty darn good even out of a little Headroom Airhead)... and making me realize I'm going to sell my Mad Dogs to finance a set. Anyone want my MDs? 

 

Sorry, the Schiit Magni I was going to bring arrived about an hour too late was sitting in my chair when I got home. Thanks again for a great meet and I'd love to be there for another (hopefully with 500s, or better yet an LCD 2 of my own).

post #137 of 181
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Yes, you really missed out.  It was a great time.  Justin had his fine Audeze's, as well as amps to include the new, upcoming Pico power.  I missed Viktor's HE-6?  How did that happen?  I purposely did not bring any source, nor amp, so that I could take time to listen to the other headphones.  Bah!

 

No STAX listening!  Bah! #2

 

No Schiit to listen to (sorry Barry.) Bah #3

 

No AKG G701 to listen to as I didn't get a chance to move over to the massive computer and gear driving them.  Bah! #4

 

No Audeze LCD listening!  Bah! #5

 

No Sennheiser HD-800 listening!  Bah!  #6

 

Whew!  That was tough.  While I didn't get to listen to many items that I wanted to, it was still great to hear what I did as well as talk with many members about audio perception, build, sound capabilities, value, etc.  I have meager priced equipment with my HE-400s being the highest cost headphone I have at the moment.  Maybe, it's good I didn't hear the higher-end items, because my desire to own might have been overwhelming.  Then, when I returned home, my wife mentioned that we had received a $9,000 bill for my daughter's next semester at college.  Sorry, no new toys for awhile.  wink.gif

 

You mean Q701 and the K702. AKG doesn't make any G series stuff. wink.gif

 

Does anyone know the forum name of the guy who brought all the old stax stuff? I really want to pick up a pair of electro-static headphones and I would like to talk to him more about it. 

post #138 of 181
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You mean Q701 and the K702. AKG doesn't make any G series stuff. wink.gif

Does anyone know the forum name of the guy who brought all the old stax stuff? I really want to pick up a pair of electro-static headphones and I would like to talk to him more about it. 

Dan brought all the lovely vintage Stax gear--not sure about his username.
post #139 of 181
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Dan brought all the lovely vintage Stax gear--not sure about his username.

Yeah I was trying to keep his real name off the internet.

 

I found a stax headphone and amp for 30 bucks on ebay SDR-4 and I am looking at getting it. I was just wondering what a good price for those would be because I am not seeing much of any information about them on the web. I guess for 30 bucks I should get them on principal.  

post #140 of 181
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Yeah I was trying to keep his real name off the internet.

I found a stax headphone and amp for 30 bucks on ebay SDR-4 and I am looking at getting it. I was just wondering what a good price for those would be because I am not seeing much of any information about them on the web. I guess for 30 bucks I should get them on principal.  

Hey, that was me with the olden stax. Sorry I didn't really get to say bye and thank you for letting me listen to the q701 and experience the most beastly water cooling pc I've seen.

As for the SDR-4, that's going to be an electret system, probably paired with the sr-40 headphones from the 80's with a tranformer box to attach to a speaker amp. Whereas electrostats can last for like 50 years, the electret systems are pre-charged and the sound reportedly degrades from use over time, though depending on the condition it's in 30 bucks ain't bad.

This meet was bomb and my only regret was missing so many of the things I had been excited to listen to. I didn't get to hit up the hd800, T1, or he500, but instead spent most of the time chatting to other attendees and annoying Justin with incessant questions. The Blue Hawaii SE really is a beautiful creation to behold and listen to. Both the 009 and 507 sounded fantastic out of it. This was also the first time I heard the LCD-2 and it was a great introduction out of Barry's Mjolnir + Gungnir combo, really good stuff. Thanks to you all for letting me put my grubby hands all over your gear and expand my audio gear addiction!
post #141 of 181
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Hey, that was me with the olden stax. Sorry I didn't really get to say bye and thank you for letting me listen to the q701 and experience the most beastly water cooling pc I've seen.
As for the SDR-4, that's going to be an electret system, probably paired with the sr-40 headphones from the 80's with a tranformer box to attach to a speaker amp. Whereas electrostats can last for like 50 years, the electret systems are pre-charged and the sound reportedly degrades from use over time, though depending on the condition it's in 30 bucks ain't bad.
This meet was bomb and my only regret was missing so many of the things I had been excited to listen to. I didn't get to hit up the hd800, T1, or he500, but instead spent most of the time chatting to other attendees and annoying Justin with incessant questions. The Blue Hawaii SE really is a beautiful creation to behold and listen to. Both the 009 and 507 sounded fantastic out of it. This was also the first time I heard the LCD-2 and it was a great introduction out of Barry's Mjolnir + Gungnir combo, really good stuff. Thanks to you all for letting me put my grubby hands all over your gear and expand my audio gear addiction!
Isn't our community great!
post #142 of 181
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I heard them out of the Gungnir + Mjolnir stack, and the GS-X, but they don't sound as immediately engaging to me as the HE-6 or even my HE-500 out of the same gear. I confess that I'm mostly relieved that I don't have to save my pennies to buy the LCD-3, and can start dreaming of the HE-6 biggrin.gif

Did you prefer the lcd3s out of the gs-x or the schiit stack? Funny how we all have different preferences, I preferred the lcd3s out of the schiit stack over the he-6s from the same stack by a considerable margin.
post #143 of 181
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Did you prefer the lcd3s out of the gs-x or the schiit stack? Funny how we all have different preferences, I preferred the lcd3s out of the schiit stack over the he-6s from the same stack by a considerable margin.

True. For me the only things that sounded good enough to sink money into were the grado 325is with the magnum mod, the stax lambda (for comfort and how ease of listening), and the stax 009s. The Audeeze stuff was good, but I just don't think they are worth 1000+. I don't mean to be offensive, but I really did not like any of the HE headphones. I was really surprised just how cold they sounded.

Everything else was ok, but wasn't anything special (to my ears). I wasn't even impressed with the dacs and amps that were under 3000. Of course I can only A/B the dac/amps that were using a 6.3mm jacks, but none of them really sounded different than another. In fact the only one that I would probably be willing to spend a lot of money on would be that itallian one that came in a bit later int the day.

I think what I truly learned from this meet is that audio quality really all comes down to personal preference.........but stax makes the best headphones if you can afford them tongue.gif
post #144 of 181
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Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

True. For me the only things that sounded good enough to sink money into were the grado 325is with the magnum mod, the stax lambda (for comfort and how ease of listening), and the stax 009s. The Audeeze stuff was good, but I just don't think they are worth 1000+. I don't mean to be offensive, but I really did not like any of the HE headphones. I was really surprised just how cold they sounded.
Everything else was ok, but wasn't anything special (to my ears). I wasn't even impressed with the dacs and amps that were under 3000. Of course I can only A/B the dac/amps that were using a 6.3mm jacks, but none of them really sounded different than another. In fact the only one that I would probably be willing to spend a lot of money on would be that itallian one that came in a bit later int the day.
I think what I truly learned from this meet is that audio quality really all comes down to personal preference.........but stax makes the best headphones if you can afford them tongue.gif

Yesterday was the also a first for me in listening to the lcd3s and the hifiman headphones. I was also extremely surprised that I basically hated the hifiman stuff in comparison to the lcd's. I wasn't all that impressed with the stax sr009s, they were extrememly detailed of course but I felt that they were a bit congested, but then again it was with unfamiliar music so I'm probably talking out of my a** hahaha The biggest wow moment was listening to "protectors of the earth" fom the Invincible album by Two Steps from hell from the lcd3/schhit stack, I fell in love with that rig instantly. Then I took the he-500s and the he-6s and listened to them out of the schiit stack with the same song, listened to both of the hifimans with that song and I felt that the soul of the music just flew away, the sound was unbearable, didn't listen to them long enough to describe exactly why though, yanked them right off my head and right back to the audezes hahaha. Glad I didn't impulse buy the he400s too, the treble and sibilance was just far too unbearable to me even with the damping mod.
Edited by zachchen1996 - 12/16/12 at 8:01pm
post #145 of 181
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Yesterday was the also a first for me in listening to the lcd3s and the hifiman headphones. I was also extremely surprised that I basically hated the hifiman stuff in comparison to the lcd's. I wasn't all that impressed with the stax sr009s, they were extrememly detailed of course but I felt that they were a bit congested, but then again it was with unfamiliar music so I'm probably talking out of my a** hahaha The biggest wow moment was listening to "protectors of the earth" fom the Invincible album by Two Steps from hell from the lcd3/schhit stack, I fell in love with that rig instantly. Then I took the he-500s and the he-6s and listened to them out of the schiit stack with the same song, listened to both of the hifimans with that song and I felt that the soul of the music just flew away, the sound was unbearable, didn't listen to them long enough to describe exactly why though, yanked them right off my head and right back to the audezes hahaha. Glad I didn't impulse buy the he400s too, the treble and sibilance was just far too unbearable to me even with the damping mod.

I completely agree. I put on the HE headphones listened to them for like 3 seconds and knew immediately that I was not a fan.

The 009s were great because of their detail. I think the congested sound does come from the music. I didn't know the particular music I was listening too, but my friend does, and I listen to that when I am over at his house. It really did seem like some of the mids had trouble though. I feel quite confident that that would be an easy fix for any equalizer.

Another thing that I really learned was just how uncomfortable my headphones are. After using all the staxs headphones with that nice soft fabric headband, I find myself actually having a hard time wearing my Q701s. I am currently trying to figure out how to mod my q701s with the cloth headband.

Yet another thing that I though was really cool was the vintage sansui receiver. I couldn't tell that much of a difference between my 200 dollar sound card and his 35 dollar thrift store deal. I was spurred on to go look at thrift stores myself today and I bought this really cool turn record player/casset player/ radio from sanyo, 2 vintage Unicorn speakers that need some love, and a vintage zenith radio that may or may not be broken for 20 bucks.

The record player works. There is a bit of damage, but the radio and amp sound great. It isn't the clearest thing in the world, but I will probably be cleaning it out and restore everything which will help a ton. The speakers have damaged edges, dirty cloth grills and it looks like some fool dripped sealant on one of the drivers. They sound great which is amazing, but I think I could do better. The radio is anyone's guess. It turns on, but all you pick up is static. It is also missing a foot. But I got it for free because it didn't even turn on at the store. I also picked up a led zeppelin mother ship album as well as a Beatles album that could or could not work. The owner doesn't like either of those bands, and I lied and said that i just needed them for a school project so she gave them to me for free. biggrin.gif DON'T TELL ME HOW MUCH THEY ARE WORTH!!!!!!! I DON'T WANT TO KNOW!!!!!!
post #146 of 181
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Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

I completely agree. I put on the HE headphones listened to them for like 3 seconds and knew immediately that I was not a fan.
The 009s were great because of their detail. I think the congested sound does come from the music. I didn't know the particular music I was listening too, but my friend does, and I listen to that when I am over at his house. It really did seem like some of the mids had trouble though. I feel quite confident that that would be an easy fix for any equalizer.
Another thing that I really learned was just how uncomfortable my headphones are. After using all the staxs headphones with that nice soft fabric headband, I find myself actually having a hard time wearing my Q701s. I am currently trying to figure out how to mod my q701s with the cloth headband.
Yet another thing that I though was really cool was the vintage sansui receiver. I couldn't tell that much of a difference between my 200 dollar sound card and his 35 dollar thrift store deal. I was spurred on to go look at thrift stores myself today and I bought this really cool turn record player/casset player/ radio from sanyo, 2 vintage Unicorn speakers that need some love, and a vintage zenith radio that may or may not be broken for 20 bucks.
The record player works. There is a bit of damage, but the radio and amp sound great. It isn't the clearest thing in the world, but I will probably be cleaning it out and restore everything which will help a ton. The speakers have damaged edges, dirty cloth grills and it looks like some fool dripped sealant on one of the drivers. They sound great which is amazing, but I think I could do better. The radio is anyone's guess. It turns on, but all you pick up is static. It is also missing a foot. But I got it for free because it didn't even turn on at the store. I also picked up a led zeppelin mother ship album as well as a Beatles album that could or could not work. The owner doesn't like either of those bands, and I lied and said that i just needed them for a school project so she gave them to me for free. biggrin.gif DON'T TELL ME HOW MUCH THEY ARE WORTH!!!!!!! I DON'T WANT TO KNOW!!!!!!

Too bad I didn't get to hear your q701s. In fact too bad I didn't get to hear ALOT of the stuff there,really wish I could have gotten a chance to hear the gs-x everyone is raving about. I was so surprised to see TWO people my age in northern virginia that appreciate good audio LOL I'm the only in my school it seems rolleyes.gif Do you guys get called crazy by your friends too? hahaha The only bad part of this meet was me realizing that I MUST get the schiit stack + lcd3's now, the enjoyment was just umbearable coming from my humble little gr07s, and when I started playing some 24/192 diana krall through that rig.... ph34r.gifbasshead.gifatsmile.gif simply glorious, the cello also had wonderful timbre and texture with the lcd3s, I was really really hoping that I would prefer the hifimans so I could save some money angry_face.gif
Edited by zachchen1996 - 12/16/12 at 8:56pm
post #147 of 181
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Too bad I didn't get to hear your q701s. In fact too bad I didn't get to hear ALOT of the stuff there,really wish I could have gotten a chance to hear the gs-x everyone is raving about. I was so surprised to see TWO people my age in northern virginia that appreciate good audio LOL I'm the only in my school it seems rolleyes.gif Do you guys get called crazy by your friends too? hahaha The only bad part of this meet was me realizing that I MUST get the schiit stack + lcd3's now, the enjoyment was just umbearable coming from my humble little gr07s, and when I started playing some 24/192 diana krall through that rig.... ph34r.gifbasshead.gifatsmile.gif simply glorious, the cello also had wonderful timbre and texture with the lcd3s, I was really really hoping that I would prefer the hifimans so I could save some money angry_face.gif

I would look at building your own tube amp and dac though. Again no offense, but I much preferred the sound with that home made amp than the shiit stack. It was actually one of the few amps that I actually herd a difference in audio quality. With the shiit I wasn't too impressed. It was one of those things where it sounds better than what you have, but it doesn't sound so much better that you need to upgrade to it.

I wish I had more time to talk to those two guys who came in later that had that fancy Italian amp about the design of that home made amp, and for that matter the dac too. Before I saw that dac I was unaware that dacs could have tubes.
post #148 of 181
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Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

I would look at building your own tube amp and dac though. Again no offense, but I much preferred the sound with that home made amp than the shiit stack. It was actually one of the few amps that I actually herd a difference in audio quality. With the shiit I wasn't too impressed. It was one of those things where it sounds better than what you have, but it doesn't sound so much better that you need to upgrade to it.
I wish I had more time to talk to those two guys who came in later that had that fancy Italian amp about the design of that home made amp, and for that matter the dac too. Before I saw that dac I was unaware that dacs could have tubes.

I think I totally missed the "two guys" too busy being seduced by the lcd3's BASS hahah. The home made amp your talking about, was that the one that was sitting to the right of the sr009 rig that had no top to it and was metal? I think that would be Justin's new GS-X am I right? When you listened to the schiit stack, what headphones did you use? Did you hear the schiit stack with the lcd3s??
post #149 of 181

That was me, I was the one with the italian synthesis tube amp and my diy amp, If you have any questions just PM me my name is Dillon

post #150 of 181
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I think I totally missed the "two guys" too busy being seduced by the lcd3's BASS hahah. The home made amp your talking about, was that the one that was sitting to the right of the sr009 rig that had no top to it and was metal? I think that would be Justin's new GS-X am I right? When you listened to the schiit stack, what headphones did you use? Did you hear the schiit stack with the lcd3s??

No, I believe he is talking about me, Yea I dont think you ever got to listen to it, I was the one from Mclean High school, I assume your the one from southlakes?

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