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post #46 of 63

Once upon a time there was a pretty funny post here but TOS said "NO" and alas it was gone.


Edited by TwoEars - 10/7/12 at 8:41pm
post #47 of 63

what the hall is all this

post #48 of 63

Yeesh, I suggest you edit that post before it's reported.  Think it goes against the TOS.  =/

post #49 of 63

referring to me?

post #50 of 63

Nope.

post #51 of 63
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Originally Posted by sphinxvc View Post

Yeesh, I suggest you edit that post before it's reported.  Think it goes against the TOS.  =/


+1 regarding post #46

post #52 of 63

Wow,you guys are freighting,i know that who rules the world is not seen in the media or "governments",but dominated by headphones manufacturers..haha

 

Btw,to stay a little on thread;I am absolutely not justifying anything,but even Sennheiser (or whatever brand) need to use some actual marketing attitude whatever honest or "masked" it is,no matter how much good their headphones are.

Unfortunately marketing as today's costumes are,take a great piece of cake for what we are induced to buy and what we choose as necessity,especially for those who are lazy to find deeper info or those who does not ave yet enough basic knowledge about the product in question.But for our case the best solution (and easier) is to wait X product and listen to it to then decide whether worth or not.

post #53 of 63

Pretty sure it's satire, built upon the fact that most people believe the HD600 to sound better than the HD650 even though it's cheaper and lower on the model line.

post #54 of 63
???

And I was ban for two months for mentioning MP3 files
post #55 of 63
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

???
And I was ban for two months for mentioning MP3 files

i wonder how is that possibleconfused.gif

post #56 of 63
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Originally Posted by streetdragon View Post

i wonder how is that possibleconfused.gif


Mp3 files are an obvious part of the infamous pirate religion - goes against the TOS.

 

BACK ON SUBJECT:

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Let me tell you a little about what it's like to be an engineer, because I have some experience in that area, and maybe some things will fall into place.

 

You work a lot, a real lot. And when you have a product to deliver to the market you work more.

 

You spend a lot of time with your companies products; researching them, designing them, prototyping them, evaluating them, rethinking them, testing them, finalizing them, using them, enjoying them, defending them....

 

And If you're working for Sennheiser developing their products you will get to know all of their products intimately. And Sennheiser is so big and competent that they really don't need to take lessons from anybody else, some inspiration maybe but Sennheiser is no copy cat.

 

And in the case of something like the HD800 or IE800 they started with a pretty clean slate, built from the ground up, and ended up with a product that they wanted.

 

Then when the products is launched it's their baby they're delivering to the world, in their eyes it's close to perfect.

 

It makes 100% perfect sense for a Sennheiser engineer to champion his own product - it's the product he's spent countless hours perfecting. It's the product he knows, he knows it's good and he knows he's done a good job.

 

The competition? It might be good but he probably hasn't had time to even listen to it for the past 2 months - lol!

 

I don't think I can explain it any better, you either get this or you don't. wink.gif


Edited by TwoEars - 10/7/12 at 9:04pm
post #57 of 63
The place has been Sen Fi for a long time.
post #58 of 63

i know, that's why its not good to scout a purchase by just listening to one person in a certain company, no matter how good (Sennheiser) or bad (BeatsbyDre) he and the company is, opinions must be taken from thirtd party people who are not tied down to any company biasness and regulations

post #59 of 63
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The competition? It might be good but he probably hasn't had time to even listen to it for the past 2 months - lol!

Well, that's probably the mistake during the interview.

Hifiman that is more competitive with "planar magnetic" technology, and phonaks that has been able to release good IEM with single BA, so it's not as if such technology should be discarded. And every time sennheiser say the hd800 has biggest driver, which is getting boring with time (we know it's not true, thanks to sony). At least he mentions the headphones designed by "gangsters", and clearly stated they don't want to imitate "bluntly" the monster beats success.

 

By the way, I found your #46 post funny, too bad you got to edit it. I think if it was really offending, moderator would have reacted quickly.

But at least it helped me to have a deeper understanding of why a ring driver is so important wink.gif.

post #60 of 63

Asking the senior acoustic engineer of an audio company to compare his own work objectively with that of competitors is not realistic.  Engineers in comparable positions from Audeze, Grado, V-Moda or virtually any other company would likely respond no differently. You don't get into a position like Grell's by talking down the company you've been with for decades or saying anything about its products which could be spun as derogatory by the press. 

 

And that's assuming TwoEars' comment isn't largely correct about Grell's PoV.  If you want a lively conversation in the cattier sense, ask what Grell thinks is wrong with the competition, hence his diss of headphones by a certain producer-turned-audio-entrepreneur who should be putting bass emphasis into the productions themselves, not the speakers used to listen to his productions.

 

I'm surprised there weren't more technical questions from audience members.  A disproportionate number seemed formulated at the level of an entertainment show segment on comparative shopping. No affectation of world-weary cynicism will ever be a substitute for dispassionate skepticism.


Edited by scrypt - 10/15/12 at 1:01pm
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