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post #976 of 1415
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Originally Posted by tk3 View Post
 

What's up AppleheadMay? So I see you finally sold your HA5000ANV. Still trying to procure a complete L3000?

As a long shot there is one for sale at http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b159496524, but it's not a good deal. I've been watching that for a while, the guy is asking an outrageous price and he has relisted it many times cause no one is buying.

His feedback is bad as well, but thought I'd mention it.

 

As for my own setup, took a few pictures below. I mentioned that I wouldn't buy a W3000 in our conversations way back, but I caved after all and bought one early last year IIRC. And I still have the W11R as you can see below, so I rotate the three of them every once in a while.
The L3000 is still my absolute favourite though, that one will never go anywhere if I can help it.

 

My setup, click for full-size. ESS 9018 balanced DAC, Beta 22 and L3000/W11R

A close up, the leather is still in good condition

A different angle

My W3000, held under a lamp

Natural lighting

It's really neat how fiery red the wood looks

 

Hi TK

Yep, still on the look. It will happen with time and patience.  :wink_face:

Thanks for the tip, but indeed that doesn't seem like too good a deal. What's more, from what I could have translated he first describes them as perfect, then a few scratches. Also, he seems to have used quite a bit opf leather care on them.

 

Oh please don't post pics like that anymore, you're making me jealous! :biggrin:

No, seriously, nice setup and you have two of the cans I'm absolutely after again. You're not selling the L are you? :tongue:

It's exactly like you describe, they're the absolute best cans for music with a lot of electric guitar, hardrock and metal being my favorites.

 

How do you like the W3000 by the way? I'm actually really interested in hearing your impressions on that one.

I had two pairs of those already and might be looking for a third so my feelings are a bit mixed. Don't ask ... :wink_face:


Edited by AppleheadMay - 8/6/14 at 2:52am
post #977 of 1415
I will issue my usual caution about the L3000 here. I had very high hopes for them, but after finally buying a pair several years back I was bitterly disappointed and couldn't sell them fast enough. They are severely colored. Far, far more than any other AT headphone, or ANY high end caliber headphone I have ever heard.
post #978 of 1415

I do like the W3000 also, and the thicker pads mean they are more comfortable than most AT headphones.

I find that they are a lot harder to get to fit right though, unless your head is the one AT modeled the standard fit for, you really have to bend the headbands and adjust the positioning to get a better fit.

In that regard they are very similar to the W5000. A simple test is to manually press the cups against your head: if the bass becomes significantly stronger, it probably means your current fit isn't adequate.

And without a good fit and seal, they sound extremely anemic and lackluster, just like the W5000.

 

As for the sound, I think these go well with "chill" music, think slower/jazzy songs or something focused on female vocals. For my tastes they are a bit too polite for aggressive songs though, I'd rather use the L3000 for the fun factor for those.

 

 

 

post #979 of 1415
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I have some info about that in this thread http://www.head-fi.org/t/259880/l3000-way-overrated/135 and on the last page. And yeah, the leather is great, they are a really attractive headphone.

Whoa, thanks!

post #980 of 1415
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Originally Posted by tk3 View Post
 

I do like the W3000 also, and the thicker pads mean they are more comfortable than most AT headphones.

I find that they are a lot harder to get to fit right though, unless your head is the one AT modeled the standard fit for, you really have to bend the headbands and adjust the positioning to get a better fit.

In that regard they are very similar to the W5000. A simple test is to manually press the cups against your head: if the bass becomes significantly stronger, it probably means your current fit isn't adequate.

And without a good fit and seal, they sound extremely anemic and lackluster, just like the W5000.

 

As for the sound, I think these go well with "chill" music, think slower/jazzy songs or something focused on female vocals. For my tastes they are a bit too polite for aggressive songs though, I'd rather use the L3000 for the fun factor for those.

 

 

 

 

 

I never had any problems with the fit. Thanks for reminding me about the bent headbands, something to look out for when trying to buy a pair.

 

Soundwise, that was my opinion as well, extremely colored, really focused on the mids, only to be used with vocal/vocal jazz. Really restricts their usability imo.

 

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I will issue my usual caution about the L3000 here. I had very high hopes for them, but after finally buying a pair several years back I was bitterly disappointed and couldn't sell them fast enough. They are severely colored. Far, far more than any other AT headphone, or ANY high end caliber headphone I have ever heard.

 

As Skylab says, that's probably the case for the L3000 as well, it's just that for me the L3000 caters to the kind of music I like to listen to a lot.
post #981 of 1415

I agree with Skylab on this one. In fact, I almost didn't buy the w3000 based off listening sessions with the l3000(and w1000 and w5000 too). It wasn't until people whose ears I trust began to rave on how excellent they sounded when I finally decided to pull the trigger. And the rest is history. These are one of my favorite headphones of all times. I do like my he6 a little better. But for closed, this was it for me. I really like the th900 too. But their shortcomings were just too glaring for me vs the very minor shortcomings of the w3000.

post #982 of 1415
kind of the other way round for me with the w3000anv and th900
post #983 of 1415
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kind of the other way round for me with the w3000anv and th900

You wouldn't be the first to say that. Lots of people find the TH900 and W3000anv to be the best closed headphones available today (well, not so much for the W3000anv). With exception to Sony's legendary MDR-R10, these are the two finest close can headphones I have had the pleasure of listening to.

 

Coincidentally, they are also both Urushi finished, maybe that's why they sound so good ;) (Nevermind that they are both Japanese, low imp, high sensitivity, fully dynamic, etc... those things are just sciency stuff).

post #984 of 1415
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kind of the other way round for me with the w3000anv and th900

Lol, we know. You've said it many times.
post #985 of 1415

As a mid range lover these are my favorite headphones of all time.  The only headphones that come close for me are the LCD-2r1 or maybe the HE-500.  Been almost 2 years since I first tried these and they still get the most love.

post #986 of 1415
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kind of the other way round for me with the w3000anv and th900

same here

post #987 of 1415
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Coincidentally, they are also both Urushi finished, maybe that's why they sound so good wink.gif

i know. that's why i asked. is it because you just prefer the appearance of the w3000anv lacquer finish to the th900 coz i doubt that it's a matter of quality.

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Lol, we know. You've said it many times.

just restoring the balance man wink.gif
post #988 of 1415
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i know. that's why i asked. is it because you just prefer the appearance of the w3000anv lacquer finish to the th900 coz i doubt that it's a matter of quality.

The finish on both the W3000anv and the TH900 are exceptional. The overcoat on both of those cans are like no other and cannot be faulted, however, the silver foil does mask any grain impurities of the wood. If not for the silver foil, and assuming there is consistency of the wood grain such as that found in the W3000anv, the TH900 would be just as beautiful.

 

Finally, there is the horrible FOSTEX logo. It looks like a generic bargain bin brand logo. I know that's very harsh and completely subjective, however, that's a comment on an insignificant feature of the headphone. Just thought I'd put it out there, incase anyone is deciding on starting a new brand and wants to send me some custom made one-offs. :)

post #989 of 1415
ok. so it's personal preference. the fostex logo is platinum leaf by the way.
post #990 of 1415

Perhaps it is personal preference as I am a bit of a furniture connoisseur, mainly solid unadulterated wood ones. A lot of furniture that use enamels, laminates, excessive staining and/or foil do so because the wood grain is either imperfect or uninteresting. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just the best way to utilize off cuts.

 

The materials chosen were outstanding and certainly exude luxury. It's the logo in and off itself that I find severely unattractive. At first glance, it looks like a mix of upper and lower case alphabets, but I suppose it can be read as F upper case and the rest lower case, but to me, I read FOSteX. Whilst it is far from a deal breaker (in fact the TH900 is on the to get list), if I were to judge the price and quality of headphones purely based on the name and the logo, FOSteX wouldn't fare well at all.

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