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post #736 of 1088
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What amps are you guys using with the 3000anv?

 

ADL Svetlana 2 - I can't imagine better match for W3000, it's just magical. But after I switched from X-Sabre to DA8 in DAC department, I noticed small decrease in bass impact and separation, so pairing with the right DAC is also essential.

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@ jon-lf - w3000anv and th900 are just different. w3000anv won't develop the th900's clarity, separation, soundstage and bass with burn in. th900 won't have the w3000anv's special mids.
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ADL Svetlana 2 - I can't imagine better match for W3000, it's just magical. But after I switched from X-Sabre to DA8 in DAC department, I noticed small decrease in bass impact and separation, so pairing with the right DAC is also essential.
Thanks for sharing this. I was wondering about Tubes for the 3000s, it already sounds Tubey, stacking it with a tube amp would make it either (godly) or (even more mashy). Was burning in the heads last night. So excited to go into the office now.
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@ jon-lf - w3000anv and th900 are just different. w3000anv won't develop the th900's clarity, separation, soundstage and bass with burn in. th900 won't have the w3000anv's special mids.
Thanks for sharing this! The 3000s have been burning in and I'm excited to see how they sound!

EDIT: I take back everything bad I said about the 3000ANVs. They sound so much better after burning in. I doubt this in my head. Will keep you guys updated =)
Edited by Jon-LF - 12/14/13 at 12:49am
post #740 of 1088
glad the burn in's working for ya.
post #741 of 1088
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ADL Svetlana 2 - I can't imagine better match for W3000, it's just magical. But after I switched from X-Sabre to DA8 in DAC department, I noticed small decrease in bass impact and separation, so pairing with the right DAC is also essential.

 

I was curious also about how it paired with the Woo Audio gear loads of those going up on resale - at a slight bargain =) 

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Sorry to hog this thread. Have been using the 3000anvs for the last 3 days and they should be burned in by now.

I'm currently using them with my Naim Dac V1 a combo which I love with my HD700s, for it's awesome prat separation and musicality.

I have come to a few realizations:

1) A lot of my early issues with the 3000s were that I tried to achieve the same degree of lower detail as the hd700s. While by no means a slouch in that department, they can't match the Senns separation and detail. They are closed headphones after all.

My issues happened when I tried to turn up the volume to achieve the same level of detail. Ruining even the mids. They have very different strengths and might even be a perfect compliment. I can imagine that is so in comparison and compliment to the Hd 800s as well.

2) The mids have grown even more awesome over the last three days. It's either because:

- I've burned it in
- Adjusted volume appropriately
- Changed the default headphone position

Not sure which. But most vocal music is godly on it. To be specific, smooth, effortless, magical. I could even imagine watching movies with it, as it just brings out the human voice. I'll try that tomorrow.

3) I have an issue with sibilance with the 3000anvs, on high female vocals. I'm coming from the HD700s with a notorious sibilance spike on the top end with recessed mids. Which the 3000anvs compliment.

On the low highs/ top mids however, there are sibilancs issues which the hd700s avoid due to it's recessed mids. It kicks in sooner in the 3000s. But past that point it seems ok (which seems weird to me).

I'm unsure if it's the amp/ dac issue. I'll be auditioning some Woo Gear to have a feel of tube sound with the 3000anvs, as I do not have access to the sulvana here in Singapore.

Questions:
1) Do low impedance heads need a special type of amp? I seem to be finding literature on this.

2) Perhaps I should just EQ the sibilance away? As it's at a very specific frequency?

3) Will tube amps help tame the sibilance?
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Questions:
1) Do low impedance heads need a special type of amp? I seem to be finding literature on this.

2) Perhaps I should just EQ the sibilance away? As it's at a very specific frequency?

3) Will tube amps help tame the sibilance?

 

 

 

1) link here for basics: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/ultimate-headphone-guide-articles-what-headphone-amplifier-and-why-do-i-need-one

 

2) try a different amp/dac combo before drawing conclusions.

 

 

* note on burn in, I have an W3000anv that I've been using regularly for the past year and a half, and I also have another one stashed away that I've used less than 2 mins.

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I use the W3000ANV with a Woo WA6 and I love the combination. Much better than my Burson HA160 for the AT's. A very sweet, beguiling combo, IMO.

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@ jon-lf - would't get too hung up about burn in. didn't they already have 50 hours on them anyways? so if burn makes any difference to how they sound it probably would've already happened. gotta say that i haven't noticed any obvious changes with mine over time.
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@ jon-lf - would't get too hung up about burn in. didn't they already have 50 hours on them anyways? so if burn makes any difference to how they sound it probably would've already happened. gotta say that i haven't noticed any obvious changes with mine over time.

 

Hey up late, thanks for this. I suspect much of my initial assessments were gain related. I find myself reaching for the 3000Anvs loads now, and the sound signature is growing on me quickly. 

 

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I use the W3000ANV with a Woo WA6 and I love the combination. Much better than my Burson HA160 for the AT's. A very sweet, beguiling combo, IMO.

 

Arcamera, I'll be able to audition this. Do you find any sibilance issues at all on Female Vocals? They guy I purchased it from said he didn't have any such issues. I've reached out to someone here who I know has access to Woo Gear, and he'll be getting back to me soon. I hear the WA5 is great too but the ADL Svetlana 2 looks like such an awesome amp (but at about twice the price). 

 

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1) link here for basics: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/ultimate-headphone-guide-articles-what-headphone-amplifier-and-why-do-i-need-one

 

2) try a different amp/dac combo before drawing conclusions.

 

 

* note on burn in, I have an W3000anv that I've been using regularly for the past year and a half, and I also have another one stashed away that I've used less than 2 mins.

 

Thanks for the link. I went through it, there is a general consensus that more power is always better - but that doesn't seem to be always true? Thank you for this, very educational. 

I'll be trying out Woo Gear soon, and as above the ADL might be a nice match beside my Naim. 

 

Do you find any difference between the 3000Anvs before and after burn in? Or is it just my imagination (gain settings)? 

post #747 of 1088
brain burn in is probably just as big a factor as the other kind. wink.gif
post #748 of 1088
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Originally Posted by Jon-LF View Post
 

 

 

 

Thanks for the link. I went through it, there is a general consensus that more power is always better - but that doesn't seem to be always true? Thank you for this, very educational. 

I'll be trying out Woo Gear soon, and as above the ADL might be a nice match beside my Naim. 

 

Do you find any difference between the 3000Anvs before and after burn in? Or is it just my imagination (gain settings)? 

 

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/11/tnhyui-earphone-burn-in/

post #749 of 1088

Jon-LF: no sibilance to my ears, at least most of the time. I find the AT's are a bit bright, but not fatiguing. With the WA6 (and tube upgrades, like the Sophia), it is positively sweet.

post #750 of 1088
switching from the th900 the w3000anv does sound brighter - sort of. wonder if it's the upper mids?
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