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post #7861 of 8581
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

 

Has this worked before?

The player "stopping" has happened to me twice today (again).

Yep, I've fixed the same issue this way.

post #7862 of 8581
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Originally Posted by t3hwx9 View Post
 

Yep, I've fixed the same issue this way.

 

Cool.

I guess those songs from HDTracks will all go in the internal mem then... (I'm not using it at the moment, only playing from both SD card slots)

 

 

Thanks!

post #7863 of 8581

Just tried playing DSDs on these and I got to say that it really burdened the device. Not on the sound but overall performance of the device, it became slow and not responsive.

post #7864 of 8581

Imagine that ;)

 

In other news converting to FLAC fixed the stutter and unrelated the tagging once on the device.  Now if only album art would transfer grr :P

 

Also the battery life is awesome.  Advertised time is actually factually real :O

post #7865 of 8581
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

 

Cool.

I guess those songs from HDTracks will all go in the internal mem then... (I'm not using it at the moment, only playing from both SD card slots)

 

 

Thanks!

Thx- I tried this yesterday but it didn't help unfortunately.

Instead I found out that the same "behaviour" happens with some of my 16/44 files. The only difference is that the songs are being played  for 30-40 seconds before it says that it doesn't know the format and jumps to the next song plus it didn't freeze afterwards. The Difference in the playtime makes me wonder if this could be related to a kind of "buffer overrun" as 10 seconds of a highres file could approximately be he same amount of Data as 30-40 seconds of a "normal" 16/44 FLAC file?  Does anybody know how it accesses the files ?   As far as I know many streamers do not play the files directly from the source but upload the data into a buffer first and play it from there.

Unfortunately I am not knowledgeable enough about IT layout etc. so I maybe totally wrong here.

post #7866 of 8581

There are some bugs with the firmware for MP3 format.. another one of them which i find annoying besides the clipping is a short freeze after a song ends. Pressing the buttons doesn't generate any screen response instantly, maybe around 5 seconds for the AK screen to wake up after pressing the buttons.

post #7867 of 8581
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post

There are some bugs with the firmware for MP3 format.. another one of them which i find annoying besides the clipping is a short freeze after a song ends. Pressing the buttons doesn't generate any screen response instantly, maybe around 5 seconds for the AK screen to wake up after pressing the buttons.

Does that happen in normal and gapless modes?
post #7868 of 8581
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post


Does that happen in normal and gapless modes?

 

I haven't tried normal mode, but it happens in gapless once in a while.

post #7869 of 8581
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post


Does that happen in normal and gapless modes?

there's no difference between gapless off or on  with the FLACs


Edited by AlterSack - 1/15/14 at 4:42am
post #7870 of 8581
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Originally Posted by AlterSack View Post

there's no difference between gapless off or on  with the FLACs

can you try with MP3s?
post #7871 of 8581

All,

 

Does anyone here know Listrid (from Russia - he was able to change the AK100.hex files), and how to get in touch with him?

 

Trying to find out how he was able to decompile the AK100.hex (or AK120.hex) files, make changes, and re-compile.  If you know

how to reach him, please PM me.  

 

Thanks,

 

Vinnie

post #7872 of 8581
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Originally Posted by Vinnie R. View Post

 

If you know how to reach him, please PM me.  

 

 

PM sent....

post #7873 of 8581

OK.... Wow several thousand posts.

 

Much of my comments are said tongue in cheek. Please don't get offended if your view differs, as we know that opinions are like rear ends- We all have 'em and they all stink to someone.

 

For anyone buying one of these, I would say DON'T DO IT... Unless some/most/all of these apply to you:

- you use windows

- you don't mind buggy antiquated software for media management

- your media library is less than 96 gb

- you are a software/hardware wiz

- you ooze patience

- you excrete hundred dollar bills on the regular and don't mind blowing 'em

etc...

 

Actually, i do like it... i just don't like the way it works... Does that make sense?

 

Admittedly, I have a large media library that requires 32 + 64 +64, and that complicated things.

I also use a 64bit Mac. I thought I would be OK because it has parallels installed with Windows 7 as a backup OS. IRiver Plus 4 was not intuitive or functional for me. I discovered quickly that I wasn't going to use it.

 

I'd hoped that it wouldn't be my only option. Mediamonkey? No... Miro? No... So, it will not work with anything other than Plus :(. There is no Plus for Mac. I really depend on playlists, so the lack of a robust media manager is a real bummer. I have heard that some folks are working on programs that will work with the AK in this regard.

 

I have long used the ipod 5.5, and comparing the AK to a video from a user interface perspective isn't a fair fight. The ipod is better at quickly navigating through a large library thanks to the click wheel, and the various speeds it will cycle through lists.

 

Clearly the AK has some useful features like bluetooth and touchscreen availability. A graphic eq. I have no need for using it as a DAC. Likewise, I have no use for the optical output. It's also a beautiful peace of kit. The materials used seem nicer too.

 

The form-factor is smaller than I expected, and though it is a bit thick, having hauled it around it isn't too thick, so I wouldn't count that against it.

 

It sounds way better than the iPod, when just plugging headphones into it. From a price perspective though, I can get similar sound from a MUCH less expensive rig. Doing so requires adding an amp to the iPod though.

 

The battery life is very good...

 

Having my library split across multiple cards is a bit clunky in terms of updating the device, making changes, etc.

 

Here's the worst part though. It's really hard to get it up and running unless you get lucky, or have a lot of upfront know-how.

 

The struggle i experienced was never ending scans of my library. Then locking scans, then not enough memory to even scan. After two days of struggling with it after work, i finally figured out how to set it up. First, I removed the extra cards (which were Fat32, 64gb each). Then I initialized the onboard storage using Plus in Windows, and letting the AK scan the library or lack thereof. Then I added one card at a time, allowing the library scan to complete one at a time. This still resulted in a few scan lockups. I let it scan overnight, and it still didn't work one time.

 

I was surprised to see so many step up as apologists for the AK. For $600+ we should expect easy integration, superior library management, good to great software or at least the ability to manage the device with 3rd party programs, cross platform support, and on and on.

 

Lastly, who are the folks jumping on users for wanting help, but not wanting to sift through thousands and thousands of posts? Maybe said users could utilize their frustration with the already frustrated help seekers to create a synopsis or sticky of the multiple issues, fixes, workarounds, etc. Not everyone has time to get a masters degree in the ak100, especially when they're preoccupied just trying to get it to play a song!

post #7874 of 8581
^^^^^
So, in summary, because:-

*The device isn't an iThing
*Doesn't conform to the Fruit company's dumbed down locked in view of the world
*iThing users didn't get a version of the POC 'file management' software that was foisted upon Windoze users (that hardly anyone uses anyway)
*Requires an IQ above 5 to actually use & an hour or so (it would take the really slow people this long; most people it's closer to 10 minutes) of your time to familiarise yourself with the device.

Nobody should buy the device ?
post #7875 of 8581

I would agree that the AK is not as user friendly as something like an ipod, but it is definitely better than some of the alternatives.  For instance, the firmware for the ibasso dx50 has been even worse.  In general, you have to decide whether it is important for you to have that kind seamless gui versus the sound quality.   I put up with the imperfections because i like the sound improvement enough to put up with it.   Ultimately, everyone who considers buying any of these DAPs will have to consider what their priorities are.   Unfortunately, there is going to be compromise either way you go.  Maybe in the future we will have something that will wow us both with sound and a great ui.  We don't really have that right now - so you will have to decide what is most important for you.  Personally, i have never been a fan of the ipod and i welcome to improved sound of the AK - even with its flaws.

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