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post #6706 of 8651

hey guys i know the Ak100 has better sound quailty to to the fiio X3 , but i recently got hold of some cash and i can order the Ak100  and i am going to be using my ASG-2 hybrid IEM whicb is 34Ohm will it be idea to pair it with the AK100 as i heard it has problems with High sensitive iem ETC 

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Originally Posted by Nukeshock View Post

hey guys i know the Ak100 has better sound quailty to to the fiio X3 , but i recently got hold of some cash and i can order the Ak100  and i am going to be using my ASG-2 hybrid IEM whicb is 34Ohm will it be idea to pair it with the AK100 as i heard it has problems with High sensitive iem ETC 

Horrible idea, don't pair it with 34 ohm impedance iem unless you will use an amp to bypass AK100's output impedance. In that case try to find an amp with less than 2 ohm output impedance. Less than 1 is always secure and best.

post #6708 of 8651
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post

Horrible idea, don't pair it with 34 ohm impedance iem unless you will use an amp to bypass AK100's output impedance. In that case try to find an amp with less than 2 ohm output impedance. Less than 1 is always secure and best.

AWW man that put a damper on my upgrade options...but i did hear that the xduoo XD-01 has near perfect synergy with the Ak100 when paired through the optical out. but my budget ends at the Ak100 any upgrades will have to wait atleast 2 months...gosh...any upgrade options from a Fiio X3 guys ? 

post #6709 of 8651

not sure how the AK100 pairs with the ASG but my w4 and SD3 pairs well with the stock model. Best if you can find someone who can lend you their unit and try it out first.
 

post #6710 of 8651
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post

Horrible idea, don't pair it with 34 ohm impedance iem unless you will use an amp to bypass AK100's output impedance. In that case try to find an amp with less than 2 ohm output impedance. Less than 1 is always secure and best.
Hum, all due respect, do not make such strong comments unless you have heard the pairing. The output impedance makes the pairing THEORETICALLY not ideal, but there is no telling what the result will be on an iem. The Ak100 unmodded with Miracles sounded quite nice I thought.
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Hum, all due respect, do not make such strong comments unless you have heard the pairing. The output impedance makes the pairing THEORETICALLY not ideal, but there is no telling what the result will be on an iem. The Ak100 unmodded with Miracles sounded quite nice I thought.

Well you are right but the FR range of the iems will be changed so they don't sound ideal, they will sound something else. Maybe he can like that new sound who knows.

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Well you are right but the FR range of the iems will be changed so they don't sound ideal, they will sound something else. Maybe he can like that new sound who knows.
That is true however the effect is quite unpredictable I think. And not so strong on dynamic and hybrids I think?
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That is true however the effect is quite unpredictable I think. And not so strong on dynamic and hybrids I think?

Yeah a lot of people said dynamic drivers are in better harmony with high output impedance sources. Well if he can demo it and see himself maybe that would be the best solution.

post #6714 of 8651

Well, i would say that what is on the paper is optimal; basically it is a guideline to follow.

 

However if there's synergy between the DAP and CIEM/Headphones, it would be heavenly.

 

And if there's no synergy between the two, to me, no matter how many papers to proof that less 1 ohm is optimal, it would sound "not right" to any individual, based on their taste and pursuit of best sound signature/quality.

post #6715 of 8651
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post

Horrible idea, don't pair it with 34 ohm impedance iem unless you will use an amp to bypass AK100's output impedance. In that case try to find an amp with less than 2 ohm output impedance. Less than 1 is always secure and best.

I disagree with this completely, I use the ASG-2 straight out of a stock AK100 and I find they sound amazing. Excellent dynamics and soundstage, they actually sound better than the Tzar 350. I would say you won't be disappointed with Stock AK100 & ASG-2
post #6716 of 8651
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I disagree with this completely, I use the ASG-2 straight out of a stock AK100 and I find they sound amazing. Excellent dynamics and soundstage, they actually sound better than the Tzar 350. I would say you won't be disappointed with Stock AK100 & ASG-2

ALRIGHT !!!!! gonna get me a AK100 ! with the nice designer brown leather pouch or if i can afford it the Xduoo XD-01  !!! 

post #6717 of 8651

I've tried the ASG-2 direct from my stock AK100 before and they sound OK to me.

No change in sound signature when I tried it out from my C5 amp.

It could due to the dynamic driver in G-2 that I didn't notice any roll-off in the lower frequency.

With TG!334, it was totally different scenario

post #6718 of 8651

I just picked up an AK100 and after doing more research I am concerned I didn't get a device that matches well with the headphones  already have.  I primarily listen on several different types of headphones depending on the give circumstances.

 

Here are what I use and their spec's

 

Main headphones

sennheiser  IE80's   16 ohm impedance

vmoda M100  32 ohm impedance

 

Other ones I use

Polk ultra fit 2000    32 ohm impedance

polk ultra fit 3000     16 ohm impedance.

 

I must admit I don't completely understand how all of the specs play together.

 

Thanks for any help you can give

Mike 

post #6719 of 8651
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Originally Posted by mld218 View Post

I just picked up an AK100 and after doing more research I am concerned I didn't get a device that matches well with the headphones  already have.  I primarily listen on several different types of headphones depending on the give circumstances.

Here are what I use and their spec's

Main headphones
sennheiser  IE80's   16 ohm impedance
vmoda M100  32 ohm impedance

Other ones I use
Polk ultra fit 2000    32 ohm impedance
polk ultra fit 3000     16 ohm impedance.

I must admit I don't completely understand how all of the specs play together.

Thanks for any help you can give
Mike 

invest a bit in decent amp or send AK100 for mod, either to Vinnie from Red Wine Audio or Mezzo maker guys. i have Red Wine mod and feel happy.
Amping can be the way to go if you do not mind some bulkness, check highly popular JDS Labs C5 or Tralucent T1, also Leckerton UHA6MkII.
post #6720 of 8651
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Originally Posted by mld218 View Post

I just picked up an AK100 and after doing more research I am concerned I didn't get a device that matches well with the headphones  already have.  I primarily listen on several different types of headphones depending on the give circumstances.

Here are what I use and their spec's

Main headphones
sennheiser  IE80's   16 ohm impedance
vmoda M100  32 ohm impedance

Other ones I use
Polk ultra fit 2000    32 ohm impedance
polk ultra fit 3000     16 ohm impedance.

I must admit I don't completely understand how all of the specs play together.

Thanks for any help you can give
Mike 

Since you already have the ak, why don't you just plug in the iems you have and decide for yourself whether they are good matches or not? Ultimately, it is about whether you like the sound or not - not what a graph says. You should just trust your own ears at this point. If you don't like the sound, you can then decide whether to return the ak or send it in for a mod.
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