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post #6601 of 8591
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Originally Posted by Fatalethal View Post

Yeap the guy has the gold... i have change my order to the gold one.

but he said that the color dont exactly match to the ak100 gold but... i may respray/paint it if the color is totally off.

Sounds good. Did you have to top up for gold? I believe he has silver too
post #6602 of 8591
Sounds like a car body chop work, you might destroy the leather surface if you spray anything on that cover other a leather dye. Those guys use special dye that keeps the leather soft and supple, at least internally else you end up with a crackle look like on those old furnitures smily_headphones1.gif
post #6603 of 8591
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Originally Posted by jonckr View Post


Sounds good. Did you have to top up for gold? I believe he has silver too

 

 

Seller did not mention any "top ups" for the request I have made at the moment. So i'm assuming that it is the same price as the default color.

post #6604 of 8591

Recently because interested in the AK100 since I'm getting rid of my full-sized rig for just IEMs, but I have a few questions about things I'm unclear on. It might be in this thread, but I'm gone through about 50 pages and still haven't hit on anything, so I figure it's safe to ask:

 

I don't really understand the optical in/out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing the optical out is to bypass it's own DAC (not sure why it would though, that's supposed to be it's best feature) and the optical in means that I can use it as a DAC for other things (say my MacBook connected via optical to the AK100, so it can replace my Dragonfly? Is this right?)

 

Also, I'm a bit worried about the 22 ohm output. My current IEMs right now are the FitEar F111, which are rather sensitive. It seems like they do well with customs in general, but is the Red Wine mod worth it? I've already read that the RWAK100 has a much higher volume -- I generally listen at low volumes, so I'm afraid that if I do get the mod, I won't have too much volume to play with.

 

Finally, would the sound quality be noticeable better than my current stack (diyMod > Pico Slim > F111)? They probably cost similarly, but the form factor of the AK100 is a winner. Even if they're on equal standing, I think that the AK100 might be worth the cost. If I have the AK100, I definitely would not use any amps, since the whole point would be to have a smaller stack. Is the headphone out of the AK100 any good, or is it mainly just that DAC that's worthwhile? If the headphone out is terrible, then I think I'd stick with my stack.

 

Of course, I could probably just get one used and then not lose too much money when I sell it.

 

Thanks for the help!

post #6605 of 8591
Thread Starter 

AK100?

 

Why not AK100 - BSpec -32GB?

 

http://www.fujiya-avic.jp/blog/?p=10319

(open with google chrome browser to get an English translation option, also provided below).

 

Miaow! Cats amongst the pigeons!

 

______________________________________________________________

 

 

 

The other day, our Twitter account product that is an announcement only a little,

The remodeling small version of Astell & Kern AK100 but is ",

It would be all right if one of levels come to Pottery Ken! Evidence that?

In Nomoto, what I am allowed to be sold in limited quantities on a trial basis in particular!

It is this, AK100 B-spec is a model that became named.

AK100-BSPEC

Formal model number to come with, the name " AK100-BSPEC-32GB ! "

The professional with a track record such as that fi-Quest, remodelingMusashi sound Ken is like

The worry of being in charge. If no model number in Nante I'm not attached. .

Accessories will be only USB cable for charging and body, your attention.

AK100-BSPEC

Determination of the normal model is not nearly a month even if I look at the appearance of the body

The two points and remodeling that SPDIF digital output is set to come out

That it had me Torihara the resistance of 22Ω headphone output of the stage at the same time.

The latter, but it is difficult to do things as a product to sell, especially general.

AK100-BSPEC & OYAIDE MIJINKO Signature & Xuoo XD-01

As a consequence sound is different from the normal models alone bodyand

Possible to output to DAC, such as coaxial digital input equipment .

For cables are difficult to obtain (but celebrities Oyaide this time

Special order a special cable to the audio water flea's we! )

Connection is like this. Potaan is xDuoo XD-01 is.

AK100-BSPEC & OYAIDE MIJINKO Signature & Xuoo

Important thing another, as shown in the picture above right, it's the default

I block "non-metallic" something to optical digital input jack section,

This is necessary. Made of plastic jack cover, etc. on the market

Is OK! Customers please provide here.

59,980 yen price of AK100-BSPEC is , the 15th day of Pottery Ken day

Start your reservation accepted, limited to 10 units Pottery Ken day, the total quantity

But will sell about 30 units as long as it has become.

Guarantee I will put three months get a thing of the provision the same as used by the Company.

In the Nakano Sun Plaza of Pottery Ken venue, at Ayutobusu course

I you will be able to listen! Try being consider purchasing it from listening sound?

 

 

post #6606 of 8591
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing the optical out is to bypass it's own DAC (not sure why it would though, that's supposed to be it's best feature) 

 

Correct - it is if you want to bypass the internal dac.  For example, if you want to use it as a high res. digital transport to feed a really high end home audio dac.

 

 

 

Quote:
and the optical in means that I can use it as a DAC for other things (say my MacBook connected via optical to the AK100, so it can replace my Dragonfly? Is this right

 

Also correct!

 

 

 

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Also, I'm a bit worried about the 22 ohm output. My current IEMs right now are the FitEar F111, which are rather sensitive. It seems like they do well with customs in general, but is the Red Wine mod worth it? I've already read that the RWAK100 has a much higher volume -- I generally listen at low volumes, so I'm afraid that if I do get the mod, I won't have too much volume to play with.

 

 

I'll let others who own the RWAK100 answer to the question if it is worth it.  But I will say that after the RWAK100, you'll still have PLENTY of usable range from the volume control.

 

 

 

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 Is the headphone out of the AK100 any good, or is it mainly just that DAC that's worthwhile?

 

Yes, it's very good with the 22-ohm resistors bypassed. - super quiet (low noise floor) and can drive a wide variety of headphones (although with harder to drive headphones, it doesn't have the slam factor and other attributes as some of the very good portable amps).  

 

It is far from "terrible."  wink_face.gif

 

Vinnie

 

 

 

 

post #6607 of 8591
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Originally Posted by Vinnie R. View Post

 

Correct - it is if you want to bypass the internal dac.  For example, if you want to use it as a high res. digital transport to feed a really high end home audio dac.

 

Also correct!

 

I'll let others who own the RWAK100 answer to the question if it is worth it.  But I will say that after the RWAK100, you'll still have PLENTY of usable range from the volume control.

 

Yes, it's very good with the 22-ohm resistors bypassed. - super quiet (low noise floor) and can drive a wide variety of headphones (although with harder to drive headphones, it doesn't have the slam factor and other attributes as some of the very good portable amps).  

 

It is far from "terrible."  wink_face.gif

 

Vinnie

 

 

Thank you Vinnie, appreciate the quick answers (not to mention your gear; your Amphora has treated me well). I'm still wondering how the headphone out is without the RW mod, so hopefully someone else can help me with that.

post #6608 of 8591

This was just announced on our Twitter account earlier. [A slightly tweaked version of the AK100]!

Would this be enough good for those who visit Porta Can? We think so, so will be selling this on a trial basis in limited quantities.

This model which we call AK100 B-Spec.
 

AK100-BSPEC

Officially this will be call AK100-BSPEC-32GB!

This mod is overseen by Musashi Onken, who has a track record such as fi-Quest. Without that assurance, we wouldn't even have given it an official name.

Inside, only the unit and the USB cable would be included. Please take note.


AK100-BSPEC

At a glance, there is no difference between stock and B-Spec but there are 2 areas that were modded. SPDIF output and no 22ohm output impedance.

Especially the former which is a sore point for normal retail units.

 

AK100-BSPEC & OYAIDE MIJINKO Signature & Xuoo XD-01

As a result, the unit sounds different even by itself and it able to output to DACs with coaxial inputs.

The cable shown here is special ordered from Oyaide. Portable Amp is the XDuoo-XD-01

AK100-BSPEC & OYAIDE MIJINKO Signature & Xuoo

An important thing to note is that the headphone out needs to be covered, Normal plastic covers will work fine.

 

The AK100 B-Spec costs 59,980 yen.

Reservations can be made at the event with 10 units for sale on the day itself. Only about 30 units will be available.

Warranty  will be for 3 months as per company policies on consignment goods.

Please demo the unit before making your decision!

 

 

 

post #6609 of 8591
Thread Starter 

Well done tm.chen.

 

I posted the same thing 3 posts  above you,  an hour ago;)

 

Your English translations read better thoughL3000.gif


Edited by ExpatinJapan - 7/11/13 at 8:40pm
post #6610 of 8591
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

Well done tm.chen.

 

I posted the same thing 3 posts  above you,  an hour ago;)

 

Your English translations read better thoughL3000.gif

 

Thanks.

 

The google translation was horrible so I cleaned it up to make it easier to read.

post #6611 of 8591
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Originally Posted by HeroicPenguin View Post

Thank you Vinnie, appreciate the quick answers (not to mention your gear; your Amphora has treated me well). I'm still wondering how the headphone out is without the RW mod, so hopefully someone else can help me with that.

I have a stock AK100.....I used to have a Modded iPod and ALO National Amp. In my opinion there is a distinct improvement in sound between the AK100 and iMod. However also bear in mind the AK100 plays HiRes Music......the iMod can't, so it may not be down to sound improvement for everyone.

As to the 22 Ohm OI - it can be a problem depending on what you use presently, I'm not sure about the F111!as I haven't heard these. I know that my Heir a.4i sounded terrible, the bass dropped completely away....l currently use the Tzar 350 and Aurisonics ASG-2 and I love both of these IEM's :-)
post #6612 of 8591
I have an arrow 4T amp coupled with my ak100, I am waiting for the fitear f111. Do you see any issues with this setup in relation to 22 ohm impedance? Does the use of the arrow allow me to overcome the issue with low impedance iems?
post #6613 of 8591
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Originally Posted by pat9486 View Post

I have an arrow 4T amp coupled with my ak100, I am waiting for the fitear f111. Do you see any issues with this setup in relation to 22 ohm impedance? Does the use of the arrow allow me to overcome the issue with low impedance iems?

I wouldnt purely state that the AK100 has issues with all low Impedence IEM's. I believe the ASG-2 have a fairly low rating (in the 30's) and these sound amazing with the stock AK100. 

 

I think, from what I have read, and I'm no expert, the issues can lie with low impedence IEM's that use BA's and also those that have Crossovers involved (hence why my A.4i sounded like crap). The ASG-2 uses a dynamic driver and although it has a Twin BA for the Treble there are no crossovers involved.

 

I would personally say that with the AK100 and Arrow 4T amp you would have no problems with the F111 IEM.

post #6614 of 8591

The stock AK100 will affect the sound signature of any low-impedance headphone / earphone which has variation in its impedance across the frequency range. The challenge is that it may improve or worsen the sound depending on personal taste. Some multi-driver IEMs still have relatively consistent impedance across all frequencies (e.g. Shure SE535) while others seem vary more significantly (e.g. UM Miracles) - Note: I have seen the impedance vs freq graph for SE535, but am commenting only on what I heard in the UM Miracles.

 

I use the RWAK100 with UM Miracles (no amplifier) and can confirm no problems with the higher power output from the RWA version compared to stock AK100. I normally have the volume at around 50% (35-40) meaning that there's plenty of room to adjust both up and down as needed.

post #6615 of 8591
Thanks for your insight :-D
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