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post #5746 of 8620
I downloaded the iRiver 2.0 beta FW first and then followed by the Listrid 2.0.

Reason

You are certain that the Listrid 2.0 is loaded into the AK100 as the UI reverts back and things like homepage options are omittef:)

Just better confirmation, but after listening I think it is detectable sonically.
post #5747 of 8620

Here are download addresses for AK100 Listrid 2.0.  You must download both egg files from both addresses and then decompress just the first egg file.  You will get one hex file called AK100.hex, just like last time (ie Russian 1.0).

 

http://cafe.naver.com/akuser/12734

http://cafe.naver.com/akuser/12735

 

There is no need for installing 1.33 prior to this installation, since this is a full firmware, not a patch.  You can simply copy the hex file OUTSIDE all folders on AK100's internal disk.  After rebooting, the update will start automatically.

 

 

 

 

If you do not like this, you can always revert to I-River's official Beta 2.0, which you can find here.  Just copy the file outside all folders of AK's internal disk.

 

http://ndrive.naver.com/fileLink.nhn?filekey=2Vsmq0yR7oEmN3hg2ZhGl5qGJkCCUod8snWGakonQl1YndopbefzWnDVuQX31YOUAQ%3D%3D

 

To sum up, it seems you have 4 choices when it comes to firmware for AK100 (listed by chronological order of respective creation dates):

 

1. Official 1.33 by I-River

2. Russian 1.0 patch (always to be installed after making sure official 1.33 has been installed first)

3. Listrid 2.0 full firmware

4. Beta 2.0 by I-River

 

First one and fourth one are very similar in sound (since they are from the same company), but fourth one is a lot faster operationwise, convenient with home-button UI and has gapeless playback, sleep timing, sound boost, etc.  Hence many people see little reason to remain 1.33.

 

Second one and third one both sound a bit bigger in volume than the aforementioned I-River versions, especially the second one. Second one and third one are identical in UI (once installed, they are distinguishable mostly by their Pro-EQ sounds only), and identical to AK120's UI with its Pro-EQ feature which is missing from Beta 2.0.  But Second one's and third one's Pro-EQ are entirely different soundwise.  Listrid 2.0's Pro-EQ has significant punches to sound, suitable for live recordings and capable of delivering realism and true details, but may tire out ears.  You be the judge.

 

Many users choose the third one (ie Listrid 2.0) and toggle back and forth between its User-EQ and Pro-EQ.

 

For your info, here is a recent poll by Korean AK100 users on which firmware they use:

 

Yellow: Listrid 2.0

Green: Russian 1.0

Blue: Beta 2.0

Red: 1.33

 

Hope this helps!


Edited by klarheit - 6/10/13 at 12:22am
post #5748 of 8620

Tested new 2.0 firmware including Listrid patch ones. Better stick with iRiver ones for MQS sound signature. Instrid mod sounds too lean from studio mastering sound.

post #5749 of 8620
Quote:
Originally Posted by tm.chen View Post

I am still having my songs cut a few seconds early, so I hope the v2 can really solve this problem. Does anybody experience this problem with 32gb cards?

I can't remember where (it might have been this very thread) but I think this was explained as happening with VBR files. Something along the lines of errors happening because the bitrate is sampled at specific intervals throughout the file and the file's length worked out from that... if the actual average bitrate is different from the average of the samples then the track is cut short....

Fuzzy memory.... but it was something along those lines.

Paul
post #5750 of 8620
How is the stability of the iRiver 2.0beta firmware?

Any problems? Worth a try?
Thanks

Edit:.... I threw caution to the wind and installed the 2.0beta version. So far so good. Does seem a little snappier in the UI and I do like the 'Home' and 'Now Playing' screens more. Haven't tested gapless yet.

Paul
Edited by Spadge - 6/9/13 at 11:54pm
post #5751 of 8620
Quote:
Originally Posted by klarheit View Post

Here are download addresses for AK100 Listrid 2.0.  You must download both egg files from both addresses and then decompress just the first egg file.  You will get one hex file called AK100.hex, just like last time (ie Russian 1.0).

http://cafe.naver.com/akuser/12734
http://cafe.naver.com/akuser/12735

There is no need for installing 1.33 prior to this installation, since this is a full firmware, not a patch.  You can simply copy the hex file OUTSIDE all folders on AK100's internal disk.  After rebooting, the update will start automatically.








If you do not like this, you can always revert to I-River's official Beta 2.0, which you can find here.  Just copy the file outside all folders of AK's internal disk.

http://ndrive.naver.com/fileLink.nhn?filekey=2Vsmq0yR7oEmN3hg2ZhGl5qGJkCCUod8snWGakonQl1YndopbefzWnDVuQX31YOUAQ%3D%3D

To sum up, it seems you have 4 choices when it comes to firmware for AK100 (listed by chronological order of respective creation dates):

1. Official 1.33 by I-River
2. Russian 1.0 patch (always to be installed after making sure official 1.33 has been installed first)
3. Listrid 2.0 full firmware

4. Beta 2.0 by I-River


First one and fourth one are very similar in sound (since they are from the same company), but fourth one is a lot faster operationwise, convenient with home-button UI and has gapeless playback, sleep timing, sound boost, etc.  Hence many people see little reason to remain 1.33.

Second one and third one both sound a bit bigger in volume than the aforementioned I-River versions, especially the second one. Second one and third one are identical in UI (once installed, they are distinguishable mostly by their Pro-EQ sounds only), and identical to AK120's UI with its Pro-EQ feature which is missing from Beta 2.0.  But Second one's and third one's Pro-EQ are entirely different soundwise.  Listrid 2.0's Pro-EQ has significant punches to sound, suitable for live recordings and capable of delivering realism and true details, but may tire out ears.  You be the judge.

Many users choose the third one (ie Listrid 2.0) and toggle back and forth between its User-EQ and Pro-EQ.

For your info, here is a recent poll by Korean AK100 users on which firmware they use:

http://cafe.naver.com/akuser/13168

Yellow: Listrid 2.0
Green: Russian 1.0
Blue: Beta 2.0
Red: 1.33

Hope this helps!

Thanks klarheit for the detailed analysis and advice! I believe this will be very useful for many ak users in their decision making... By the way, I think your provided links only allow access to registered members
post #5752 of 8620
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Originally Posted by Capri87 View Post


Thanks klarheit for the detailed analysis and advice! I believe this will be very useful for many ak users in their decision making... By the way, I think your provided links only allow access to registered members

Thanks for this.  I rechecked the download links and they work fine.  For the poll link, it has been substituted with a screen shot.  Please try again and let me know if they still allow access to members only; I will give different links then.


Edited by klarheit - 6/10/13 at 12:30am
post #5753 of 8620
Quote:
Originally Posted by klarheit View Post

Thanks for this.  I rechecked the download links and they work fine.  For the poll link, it has been substituted with a screen shot.  Please try again and let me know if they still allow access to members only; I will give different links then.

Yea it still requires you to log in... I suggest u should log out first (if u haven't done this) and retry
post #5754 of 8620

I had been privately sharing out the firmwares over the weekend to those that wanted to test them. just in case of any problems. However there doesn't seem to be any horror stories coming back in about any bricked devices so I think it is safe to share the link here

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tft1ydwrdbk9dh2/OYIRK_8f0u

 

Obviously these are not official firmwares. One is a mod and the other one is a private beta, so take that into consideration before flashing and do so at your own risk.  biggrin.gif

 

These two are both full firmwares and as far as I know it doesn't matter what previous version you install them over.

 

*Oh and don't remove or delete anything in the folders as it is a shared dropbox smily_headphones1.gif *


Edited by CraftyClown - 6/10/13 at 1:39am
post #5755 of 8620
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spadge View Post

I can't remember where (it might have been this very thread) but I think this was explained as happening with VBR files. Something along the lines of errors happening because the bitrate is sampled at specific intervals throughout the file and the file's length worked out from that... if the actual average bitrate is different from the average of the samples then the track is cut short....

Fuzzy memory.... but it was something along those lines.

Paul

This actually make a lot of sense as the albums that gave me problems were indeed ripped in Vbr. I thought it was the encoding engine giving the files issues but it may actually be a combination of said engine and the vbr format.
post #5756 of 8620

So a $700  DAP can't handle VBR files properly?  That's pretty lame, if that is the case.

post #5757 of 8620
Quote:
Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

So a $700  DAP can't handle VBR files properly?  That's pretty lame, if that is the case.

 

Well not ALL VBR files.  I had plenty that works perfectly fine but had two old rips that gave me issue.  Hence I said its a combination of the encoding engine used plus the VBR.  Re-ripping it solved my issue but could be an issue if one don't or no longer have possession of the CD or the 5 mins to re-rip.

post #5758 of 8620
Quote:
Originally Posted by kkcc View Post

 

Well not ALL VBR files.  I had plenty that works perfectly fine but had two old rips that gave me issue.  Hence I said its a combination of the encoding engine used plus the VBR.  Re-ripping it solved my issue but could be an issue if one don't or no longer have possession of the CD or the 5 mins to re-rip.


So you think it could be an incompatibility with an older codec of VBR? Seems plausible I guess.


Edited by lee730 - 6/10/13 at 4:30am
post #5759 of 8620
Quote:
Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


So you think it could be an incompatibility with an older codec of VBR? Seems plausible I guess.

 

Cannot confirm as I have no recollection what I used to rip those files and I've purged them.  It didn't even bothered me until gapless came in and I'm NOT getting gapless for those 2 albums. They played perfectly fine as individual tracks.

post #5760 of 8620

One person commented on this issue in Amazon.  Are only Amazon-purchased files that are currently affected?  My I-tunes Store purchased files seem to be fine.

 

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