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post #4486 of 8655
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

yet alo still selling it for $699. There are a lot of what if but the 480 case you are putting it does not include tenso cost. 


If you are going to compare domestic prices against overseas prices, exchange rate, import taxes and some other factors are in play. When domestic retailer import in bulk, they do not use tenso, they buy at OEM prices rather than retail price, they get bulk purchase discount, and they save on aggregate shipment. Of course, part of the savings go to import duties and other fees.

 

There will be a downward pressure in the prices of Japanese products sooner or later because of the low yen. Retailer like ALO can choose not to shift their price, but other competitors will get the deal first by pricing it lower since the cost price is lowering.

 

The point I am making is that rather than trying to speculate the release of a new product, understand the non-speculative aspects regarding the falling AK100 prices.


Edited by uelover - 4/28/13 at 4:37am
post #4487 of 8655

I was not trying to speculate, I am not a fan of conspiracy theory, the possibility of update AK100 is very high.


Edited by audionewbi - 4/28/13 at 4:22am
post #4488 of 8655

I dont think lowering of prices is something that inidicates something new have cropped up,  unless we got it with accompanied statement, leaks,  price drop just mean,  well price drop just like every other tech product

post #4489 of 8655
Pretty sure it's the yen but check the London meet thread, someone mentions AK120 there
post #4490 of 8655
Hi everyone,

Just a quick question if anybody use a stock AK100 with AKG K3003 or FAD PF IX?
Like to know your impressions or opinions.

Thanks
post #4491 of 8655
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post

I have received the borrowed RWA AK100 this morning, the black one...................

Haven't listened properly yet, as I had to do a little spring cleaning, someone was complaining, so everything needs to be put in the drawer.....
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Hi Gavin and Michael
How is the impression from the high end dap battle ?
Please share for us
Thank you
Edited by rudi0504 - 4/28/13 at 6:48am
post #4492 of 8655
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post

Very brief thoughts of the RWA AK100 and the AK100 Mod Stage 2

 

If one wants to maintain the integrity of the AK100 and it's inherent signature then the RWA is the one to go for.....and can be used for all IEM irrespective of impedance. 

 

The Mod Stage 2 changes the AK100 into another player, to compete with the likes of the DX100, and the C4, Very clean and clear sounding!

 

Both are very good....so a matter of different strokes for different folks......

 

so if i read it between the lines it seems you liked Mod2 better than RWAK? :-D

post #4493 of 8655
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

 

so if i read it between the lines it seems you liked Mod2 better than RWAK? :-D

 

No not at all....

 

I think they both compete very well with other DAPs, I was highlighting the MOD Stage 2 as it changes the character of the AK100 while the RWA maintains the smooth lush character of the AK100.

 

I think the issue is that the stock AK100 at 22 ohms weren't prepared to play with all IEMs properly but now with either MOD they arenormal_smile%20.gif

 

Is this better? 

post #4494 of 8655
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post

Very brief thoughts of the RWA AK100 and the AK100 Mod Stage 2

 

If one wants to maintain the integrity of the AK100 and it's inherent signature then the RWA is the one to go for.....and can be used for all IEM irrespective of impedance. 

 

The Mod Stage 2 changes the AK100 into another player, to compete with the likes of the DX100, and the C4, Very clean and clear sounding!

 

Both are very good....so a matter of different strokes for different folks......

 

Wow! That is a bold statement indeed. So you think the Mod stage 2 is a significant upgrade in SQ besides the difference accounted for by the difference in Output impedance?

 

I am struggling with the idea to get my AK modded or not, as my IEMs are the Tzar 350s and the cans I use at home are the HD 650s, both with impedance of at least 300 ohms, therefore every time someone reviews the optional AK mods I have to wonder how much of the difference they are hearing is based on the impedance issue or not.

 

If there is indeed a SQ improvement irrespective of impedance, then I will be very tempted :)

 

Oh and is there any actual concrete info, or at least a reputable source for the AK120 rumours? Or is this just Chinese whispers?

post #4495 of 8655
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Originally Posted by CraftyClown View Post

 

Wow! That is a bold statement indeed. So you think the Mod stage 2 is a significant upgrade in SQ besides the difference accounted for by the difference in Output impedance?

 

I am struggling with the idea to get my AK modded or not, as my IEMs are the Tzar 350s and the cans I use at home are the HD 650s, both with impedance of at least 300 ohms, therefore every time someone reviews the optional AK mods I have to wonder how much of the difference they are hearing is based on the impedance issue or not.

 

If there is indeed a SQ improvement irrespective of impedance, then I will be very tempted :)

 

Oh and is there any actual concrete info, or at least a reputable source for the AK120 rumours? Or is this just Chinese whispers?

 

Don't get me wrong..I like them both..... normal_smile%20.gif

 

Is just that the Stage 2 changes the character completely.....and it will work with low impedance IEMs as does the RWA

 

However, I love the sound of a stock AK100 with FitEar C/IEMs. I am listening to the 334 on the stock AK100 and enjoying it very much!

post #4496 of 8655
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

I do not want to talk for Rudi or his friend Alex, but I do not think they can have an industrial pace of production....

Hahaha Alex is pure audio hobbies
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post

Very brief thoughts of the RWA AK100 and the AK100 Mod Stage 2

If one wants to maintain the integrity of the AK100 and it's inherent signature then the RWA is the one to go for.....and can be used for all IEM irrespective of impedance. 

The Mod Stage 2 changes the AK100 into another player, to compete with the likes of the DX100, and the C4, Very clean and clear sounding!

Both are very good....so a matter of different strokes for different folks......

Thank you for your impression Gavin

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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

Thanks, can you let us know who does the stage 2 mod and who we need to contact for it? Thanks

You can PM me Audionewbi
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post

The Stage 2 mentioned in this thread for the last 10 pages...I think it is Rudi0504 's friend.....I am not too sure, so you better ask him.

BTW I have heard the Stage 1 too...and that was a little too Hi Fi sounding for my tastes, but extremely impressive initially.... very wide and a huge thumping bass

Thank you once again Gavin for your sharing the impression
post #4497 of 8655
I think if your current iems or cans pair well with stock, do not mod. If you mod, well check if Alex wants to do it at all. Then to chose, I would say rwak is slightly easier and laid back while stage 2 is more forward. But that is from a quick and dirty comparison.
post #4498 of 8655
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

My guess is the AK100 will never have gapless. Most online retailers have reduced the AK100 to $499. I think they will release the AK120 really soon. 

Earlier on in the thread someone mentioned that a software update for gapless was in the works. Is this not the case anymore?

post #4499 of 8655

Would someone be willing to send me or Rudi0504 a demo RWAK unit to test, we really appreciate it beerchug.gif

post #4500 of 8655
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Originally Posted by djyeo View Post

Would someone be willing to send me or Rudi0504 a demo RWAK unit to test, we really appreciate it beerchug.gif

 

What do we get back in return :P? A Stage 2? Heheh....well spkrs01 has my RWAK100 at the moment which he used for the test. May be possible to forward it on to you/Rudi since I'm not exactly missing it. Or you're more than welcome to send me over a stage 2 so that I can test with my RWAK100 when it gets back ;-).

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