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post #3571 of 8798
bearingt, is this amp really so good. To what amps you had a chance to compare this?
post #3572 of 8798

Am I right to assume that they have 4 in stock ready for shipping?

 

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/iriver-jp/ak100ear/?scid=af_pc_etc&sc2id=66742679


Edited by audionewbi - 4/1/13 at 3:32pm
post #3573 of 8798

Just pruchase a RWAK100 from a headfier and i cannot wait for it even my RDB+v1 is arriving soon 

 

I just started this journey like this year only and i been upgrading stuff every month now. I started with my ATH-M50 and was only looking for a 100-200$ IEM for my Note 2 but ended up going way beyond my budget and now I even bought the RWAK100 which i would normally not even consider since im really a cheap person. I dont know if my journey will end with the RWAK100 since im hoping it would be my final solution on getting the best portable source for my IEM since Full/Portable Headphone irritates me. I might upgrade to a custom IEM but im hoping not on the DAP.

post #3574 of 8798
Quote:
Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

Swim, There's no issue with amping the HP out and on their own, I think the rwa will do better than the ak you have with IEMs so Mim... may be OK.


I have been following this thread for a while but I am still confused...so I will ask one simple question, or more try to get a confirmation:

 

  • If I use the player as a standalone WITH IEMS, there is a clear benefit in having a RWAK100 vs AK100, and the RWAK100 has a performance with IEMs close to that of DX100
  • If I used an external DAC/AMP (ALO International seems perfect), having the RWAK100 is useless, because I will just be using the AK100 as a transport

 

Does that make sense ?

 

Thanks

post #3575 of 8798
The second point is right, if you just connect the ak100 by its optical to a dac amp the entire unit is a transport and thus its impedance problem doesn't matter so does connecting the ak100 with an amp through its ho since you dont connect your headphone directly through it
post #3576 of 8798

Does anyone have an optical cable they would recommend for the AK100?

 

BTW, I love this portable device. It absolutely kills my ipods.

 

Thanks!

post #3577 of 8798
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Originally Posted by vpop4me View Post

Does anyone have an optical cable they would recommend for the AK100?

 

BTW, I love this portable device. It absolutely kills my ipods.

 

Thanks!

Anyone from your local ship under $20 should do it.

post #3578 of 8798
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


I have been following this thread for a while but I am still confused...so I will ask one simple question, or more try to get a confirmation:

 

  • If I use the player as a standalone WITH IEMS, there is a clear benefit in having a RWAK100 vs AK100, and the RWAK100 has a performance with IEMs close to that of DX100
  • If I used an external DAC/AMP (ALO International seems perfect), having the RWAK100 is useless, because I will just be using the AK100 as a transport

 

Does that make sense ?

 

Thanks

 

Yes and No.

 

Yes means you are right about the possibility to use AK100 as transport only.

No means optical makes sense.

 

Consider: RWAK can be used as a) standalone player b) amped and c) transport only.

all what this means is FLEXIBILITY and you free to make your choice. having choice is always better than not having.

 

there are many nice DACs here and optical gives you possibility to try them and decide, not having optical will mean you stick to the amp only solution.

 

take example of CD players. some have optical outs and some not. now tell us which one you prefer? even Naim now makes optical outs on CD5XS and CDX2-ii... and connecting CD5XS to Naim DAC will lift your sonic performance onto another level.

besides there are many hard core audiophiles who buy expensive CD transports and connect them to mega buck DACs. are they mad? a good CD transport sometimes can cost as much as good CDP.

 

there is nothing wrong in having connectivity options and it is always better have them than not.


Edited by Gintaras - 4/1/13 at 11:49pm
post #3579 of 8798

Some people think that the AK100 with a portable AMP is too bulky ? So... look at my set-up !  wink_face.gif

 

 I paired it  (with opticalcable) with a "battery operated" Tubed DAC/AMP Bellina PRO from RedWine Audio (I ordered the Bellina Pro inside the "old" case because I did not like too much the woody case)

 

And I has my TH900 rewired Balanced to take full advantage of the balanced output of the amp. Plus I got a tube upgrade to the MiniWatt Dario E188CC.

 

First impressions are very good and I could notice a real improvement in background silence when I use the DAC/AMP operated on Battery.

 

And since the battery is really convenient to carry the system from room to room, or even outside... I  made a case to carry the Bellina + power Supply + headphone + my RWAK100 used as source.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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post #3580 of 8798
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

 

Yes and No.

 

Yes means you are right about the possibility to use AK100 as transport only.

No means optical makes sense.

 

Consider: RWAK can be used as a) standalone player b) amped and c) transport only.

all what this means is FLEXIBILITY and you free to make your choice. having choice is always better than not having.

 

there are many nice DACs here and optical gives you possibility to try them and decide, not having optical will mean you stick to the amp only solution.

 

take example of CD players. some have optical outs and some not. now tell us which one you prefer? even Naim now makes optical outs on CD5XS and CDX2-ii... and connecting CD5XS to Naim DAC will lift your sonic performance onto another level.

besides there are many hard core audiophiles who buy expensive CD transports and connect them to mega buck DACs. are they mad? a good CD transport sometimes can cost as much as good CDP.

 

there is nothing wrong in having connectivity options and it is always better have them than not.


but his second question is that if he would always be running the ak100 as a transport only , the mod done to the RWA version would be useless since it doesn't use the headphone out anymore

 

while the RWA is certainly more flexible , you shouldn't do it if you are sure you would always run this as a transport or without using any sensitive headphones/IEM

post #3581 of 8798
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

 

Yes and No.

 

Yes means you are right about the possibility to use AK100 as transport only.

No means optical makes sense.

 

Consider: RWAK can be used as a) standalone player b) amped and c) transport only.

all what this means is FLEXIBILITY and you free to make your choice. having choice is always better than not having.

 

there are many nice DACs here and optical gives you possibility to try them and decide, not having optical will mean you stick to the amp only solution.

 

take example of CD players. some have optical outs and some not. now tell us which one you prefer? even Naim now makes optical outs on CD5XS and CDX2-ii... and connecting CD5XS to Naim DAC will lift your sonic performance onto another level.

besides there are many hard core audiophiles who buy expensive CD transports and connect them to mega buck DACs. are they mad? a good CD transport sometimes can cost as much as good CDP.

 

there is nothing wrong in having connectivity options and it is always better have them than not.


Thanks. I do not understand what you mean with "optical makes sense". I never asked about optical so I am confused.

post #3582 of 8798

Mimouille, excuse me in this case i am having hard time understanding your post. you wrote two points and said one makes sense and another one makes no sense. i disagree on this, what else question?

 

i understood question PER SE was about AK100, not RWAK.

 

i meant having the possibility to use optical adds versatility to the device. let me give one simple example. you can use AK100 as standalone player (amped or not amped) and you can also use AK by plugging in optical out and connecting to DAC in your home HiFi.

 

and RWAK is even better if you want to avoid amping for IEMs. in this case spending a litlte more on RWAK saves you some pennies on good amp, while you still can use optical out.

 

so i cannot understand what or why does not make sense.

 

in the end it all boils down to personal preferences and different people have different wishes.

 

so i cannot see the point in this discussion because what is good for one man might be not good for another, this is why people buy different players and different amps :-)

 

for me i find RWAK very versatile product and i am glad having it. i want to be able to use RWAK unamped, i want to have choice to use it amped if i wish so and i want to have optical out IF i want to connect this to DAC and AMP.


Edited by Gintaras - 4/2/13 at 2:26am
post #3583 of 8798
Ok that is very clear thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Mimouille, excuse me in this case i am having hard time understanding your post. you wrote two points and said one makes sense and another one makes no sense. i disagree on this, what else question?

i understood question PER SE was about AK100, not RWAK.

i meant having the possibility to use optical adds versatility to the device. let me give one simple example. you can use AK100 as standalone player (amped or not amped) and you can also use AK by plugging in optical out and connecting to DAC in your home HiFi.

and RWAK is even better if you want to avoid amping for IEMs. in this case spending a litlte more on RWAK saves you some pennies on good amp, while you still can use optical out.

so i cannot understand what or why does not make sense.

in the end it all boils down to personal preferences and different people have different wishes.

so i cannot see the point in this discussion because what is good for one man might be not good for another, this is why people buy different players and different amps :-)

for me i find RWAK very versatile product and i am glad having it. i want to be able to use RWAK unamped, i want to have choice to use it amped if i wish so and i want to have optical out IF i want to connect this to DAC and AMP.
post #3584 of 8798

Has anyone seen this new Gold AK100 yet ? (seen on Jaben)

 

post #3585 of 8798

Bling bling lol. It's been posted earlier on; silver and gold.
 

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