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post #3316 of 8763
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Originally Posted by Alias Gu View Post

Thanks, now i get it.

 

RWAK100 seems more colored from you guys' brief reviews.

I should really think about moding it after i get my Unique Melody Miracles.

Hope these two won't sound bad. If this pair really sounds awful, that will cost me 250+ dollars to mod it.

Even though not worthwhile just for cutting off the impedance, but have to do that.

Here is my take my take on the AK100, after 3-4 days of usage it is possible to get used to its sound signature. As much as the high output will impact certain IEM like all sound signature  it is matter of time to get used to it. To avoid moding just use an amp of your liking. 

 

RAWAK100: If you dont want to carry around an amp bypass the 22 ohm resistor, this will a) increases the volume by 4-6 db which means it will be loud enough for all the IEM out in the market.and b)it will no longer have the impedance problem so it can be truly an all in one DAP solution with only buggy or "poor" UI.

 

I personally would not pay 355 for a mod, I rather buy an amp for that price. 

post #3317 of 8763

what is the best portable amp you can go along with ak100 not rwak100?I am planning to upgrade my portable amp.Budget around  150-300?Any advice would be appreciated.Thanks.

post #3318 of 8763

I was using Stock AK100 optical out to mini DAC/Amp xxDuo (mentioned by AnakChan in post 3285) with FitEar ToGo and Final Audio Design FI-BA-SS achieved "quite" good sounding . Without amp directly audio output from AK100 FAD (impedence 16ohm) suffer the most totally could not bare to listen for more than five minute.

 

However I just try the Stock AK100 without amp with Weston ES3X with Crystal Picolino cable seem to work well (Do not know whether is the cable or ES3x), all the music suddenly come alive.

post #3319 of 8763
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

Here is my take my take on the AK100, after 3-4 days of usage it is possible to get used to its sound signature. As much as the high output will impact certain IEM like all sound signature  it is matter of time to get used to it. To avoid moding just use an amp of your liking. 

 

RAWAK100: If you dont want to carry around an amp bypass the 22 ohm resistor, this will a) increases the volume by 4-6 db which means it will be loud enough for all the IEM out in the market.and b)it will no longer have the impedance problem so it can be truly an all in one DAP solution with only buggy or "poor" UI.

 

I personally would not pay 355 for a mod, I rather buy an amp for that price. 

The reason i bought AK100 is due to its high portability, which is very rare in hifi market, with a fair sound quality (even though not good enough.) If i will add any amps on a dap, that will be Ipod Classic. IMO, Ipod Classic has a better UI and Itunes.

I think i will go for RWAK100. 

Thanks, man :)


Edited by Alias Gu - 3/17/13 at 8:21pm
post #3320 of 8763
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Originally Posted by Alias Gu View Post

The reason i bought AK100 is due to its high portability, which is very rare in hifi market, with a fair sound quality (even though not good enough.) If i will add any amps on a dap, that will be Ipod Classic. IMO, Ipod Classic has a better UI and Itunes.

I think i will go for RWAK100. 

Thanks, man :)

Just wait a while, you never know, maybe iriver is fixing this issue? 

post #3321 of 8763

Well fixing it how? By releasing a new product or by also offering a solution for the older models as well? It really depends on how you look at it. But to be fair the Tera player has high output impedance and everyone loves it :P.
 

post #3322 of 8763
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Well fixing it how? By releasing a new product or by also offering a solution for the older models as well? It really depends on how you look at it. But to be fair the Tera player has high output impedance and everyone loves it :P.
 

I doubt it, but ofcourse as a current owner I hope for such fixes. I cant realy complain, I got a good offer and the fact that I dont need to downsample my files I am a happy camper however to be honest the fact that I cannot use it with the EX1000 has disappointed me a little but than again I have the new studio to fix that problem.

post #3323 of 8763
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Well fixing it how? By releasing a new product or by also offering a solution for the older models as well? It really depends on how you look at it. But to be fair the Tera player has high output impedance and everyone loves it :P.
 

Agree.

I don't think Iriver is going to fix it. Extra time, money for repair and less reputation will only make Iriver slap itself. 

IMO, the most possible excuse to justify they put an incredible high impedance in AK100 is because they love a plain tune.

What i said maybe sound weird but it does make sense. Actually a lot of people love this kind of pure plain sound.

As you might know, Iriver is a Korean company. I don't think Asian people really love boom boom boom. At least, i don't like it.


Edited by Alias Gu - 3/17/13 at 8:53pm
post #3324 of 8763
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Originally Posted by Alias Gu View Post

Agree.

I don't think Iriver is going to fix it.

IMO, the most possible excuse to justify they put a high impedance in AK100 is because they love a plain tune.

What i said maybe sound weird but it does make sense. Actually a lot of people love this kind of pure plain sound.

As you might know, Iriver is a Korean company. I don't think Asian people really love boom boom boom. At least, i don't like it.


Well the thing is Asian music can tend to be more so on the treble happy/harsher side of things and on a brighter more peppy source that is a no go.

post #3325 of 8763
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Well fixing it how? By releasing a new product or by also offering a solution for the older models as well? It really depends on how you look at it. But to be fair the Tera player has high output impedance and everyone loves it :P.
 

 

I dont know the technical stuff on why this matters, but why isnt everyone complaining about the Tera player with certain earphones like they are the AK100? Enlighten me without trying to convince me to buy something 2x my price range like you always seem to do... ready... go!

post #3326 of 8763
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Originally Posted by caracara08 View Post

 

I dont know the technical stuff on why this matters, but why isnt everyone complaining about the Tera player with certain earphones like they are the AK100? Enlighten me without trying to convince me to buy something 2x my price range like you always seem to do... ready... go!


I don't know exactly why Cara. But it all stems from the implementations of these devices. There is obviously some merit to the Tera Players praise. The owners aren't just a bunch of biased idiots. I won't buy that for a minute. Charles had mentioned something very interesting in his measurements regarding the jitter and the speed of the sign wavs or something like that? All I know is if it sounds good to my ears that is all that really matters. Thing is I've heard gear with high output impedance that made my IEMs/cans sound like ****. So in that I'm also skeptical. Anyways I'll be demoing it a little later this year so I'll decide with my ears.


Edited by lee730 - 3/17/13 at 9:10pm
post #3327 of 8763

Upcoming official case from iriver due end April. I like it however I prefer something with screen protection.

Anyone tried this with edition 8? 

 

 

 

post #3328 of 8763
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

Upcoming official case from iriver due end April. I like it however I prefer something with screen protection.

Anyone tried this with edition 8? 

 

That's a much more appropriate case as it protects the top. Only if it had a window too instead of having to flip it open to access the touch screen.

 

I did try the RWAK100 with the Romeos but not the AK100. I also tried the SigDJs next to the Romeos. It was after that date that I picked up the SigDJ's.

post #3329 of 8763
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

 

That's a much more appropriate case as it protects the top. Only if it had a window too instead of having to flip it open to access the touch screen.

 

I did try the RWAK100 with the Romeos but not the AK100. I also tried the SigDJs next to the Romeos. It was after that date that I picked up the SigDJ's.

Nice, one day I hope to try them. I always liked the edition 8 look.  

post #3330 of 8763

Guys, I've removed some off-topic discussion. Please keep this thread to discussion of the AK100. Thanks.

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