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Could anyone make sonic comparisons to an iMod / Diymod 5.5 (or 4-5) paired with a descent amp?

I ask as although the RWAK100 setup appears to have the advantage of both form factor and SQ, it is behind the iMod / Diymod in terms of storage space, interface and price... at least, that's what I'm concluding from user's complaints. Are the improvements in SQ worth this sacrifice?

Shotgunshane, your comments would be useful, as you've just reverted back to an isetup.
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Boo hiss double post
post #2733 of 8335
I do like the iMod-International setup more than the RWAK-International SQ wise but the RWAK by itself is a great portable DAP.
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have anyone tried jamming this

http://www.headphone.com/accessories/adaptors/etymotic-er-4p-to-er-4s-adapter.php

on their AK100 yet? any improvements on low impedance iems?

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Originally Posted by Tamz View Post

have anyone tried jamming this

http://www.headphone.com/accessories/adaptors/etymotic-er-4p-to-er-4s-adapter.php

on their AK100 yet? any improvements on low impedance iems?

If you'd bothered to read through the thread you would see that this will make the player sound worse, not better. 

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Originally Posted by Tamz View Post

have anyone tried jamming this

http://www.headphone.com/accessories/adaptors/etymotic-er-4p-to-er-4s-adapter.php

on their AK100 yet? any improvements on low impedance iems?

 

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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post

If you'd bothered to read through the thread you would see that this will make the player sound worse, not better. 

Thought I was in the Twilight Zone when I first read and followed the link blink.gif

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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

 

Thought I was in the Twilight Zone when I first read and followed the link blink.gif

Lol!!! I guess some still don't know what the issue is with an unmodded ak100. wink_face.gif

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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post

Lol!!! I guess some still don't know what the issue is with an unmodded ak100. wink_face.gif


Would it have killed you to write one more sentence explaining why adding an additional 75 ohm resistance to the output of a device whose output impedance is already too high is a bad idea?

 

Great, you got your hipster cred.  But I was under the impression that part of the culture of this community was being helpful to noobs.  Apparently I was mistaken.triportsad.gif

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Originally Posted by burnspbesq View Post


Would it have killed you to write one more sentence explaining why adding an additional 75 ohm resistance to the output of a device whose output impedance is already too high is a bad idea?

 

Great, you got your hipster cred.  But I was under the impression that part of the culture of this community was being helpful to noobs.  Apparently I was mistaken.triportsad.gif


Adding additional resistance to the unit will result in an undesired alteration of the frequency responses of sensitive IEMs and even sensitive headphones. But the biggest impact is on BA IEMs (with crossovers). The effects are random but what is a given is the sound will be altered from what the manufacturer intended the IEM to sound like. Basically you get a free auto EQ lol :P.


Edited by lee730 - 2/19/13 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


Adding additional resistance to the unit will result in an undesired alteration of the frequency responses of sensitive IEMs and even sensitive headphones. But the biggest impact is on BA IEMs (with crossovers). The effects are random but what is a given is the sound will be altered from what the manufacturer tuned the IEM. Basically you get a free auto EQ lol :P.

 

Ok, well I hope this isn't a stupid question, but is the issue going to be the same if using the etymotic cable with the IEMs it was designed for, the ER4Ps? I have the ER4Ps and was intending to buy the cable anyway.

 

I'm in the UK so buying the RWAK100 becomes a far more costly and long winded process than i'd like, so I'm tempted to pick up the AK over here and only send it over to Vinnie if I really have to. I need new cans anyway, so I'm open to purchasing something with a higher impedence that will suite the AK.

 

Other than the Tzar 350s are there any other obvious IEM options available?

 

and has anyone worked out why IRiver are still promoting the Shure SE425s on there site?

 

Be gentle with me, I'm new! lol

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Originally Posted by CraftyClown View Post

 

Ok, well I hope this isn't a stupid question, but is the issue going to be the same if using the etymotic cable with the IEMs it was designed for, the ER4Ps? I have the ER4Ps and was intending to buy the cable anyway.

 

I'm in the UK so buying the RWAK100 becomes a far more costly and long winded process than i'd like, so I'm tempted to pick up the AK over here and only send it over to Vinnie if I really have to. I need new cans anyway, so I'm open to purchasing something with a higher impedence that will suite the AK.

 

Other than the Tzar 350s are there any other obvious IEM options available?

 

and has anyone worked out why IRiver are still promoting the Shure SE425s on there site?

 

Be gentle with me, I'm new! lol

 

Well you have to factor in that that particular adapter will cause the ER4Ps to sound like the other model (forgot the name?). But if you add more resistance I would think it would alter the sound from even that other model.

 

I'm not sure about the SE425s. iRiver does say it sounds good on their unit and they may very well be right. Just putting it out there that it won't sound as it would stock out of another DAP or device with low output impedance. So you'll have varying sound as a result. Now whether or not that will be your forte is the question :).


Edited by lee730 - 2/19/13 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by burnspbesq View Post


Would it have killed you to write one more sentence explaining why adding an additional 75 ohm resistance to the output of a device whose output impedance is already too high is a bad idea?

 

Great, you got your hipster cred.  But I was under the impression that part of the culture of this community was being helpful to noobs.  Apparently I was mistaken.triportsad.gif

Has nothing to do with 'hipster cred' It has everything to do with, spending 15 minutes or so and familiarizing yourself with what your asking about. Me, I feel stupid when I ask a duh question so I try to read to educate myself before asking. Its not as easy as depending on someone to do the work for me but a lot more satisfying when I do some of the work myself. And I find I get more help when I know what questions to ask.

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Originally Posted by burnspbesq View Post


Would it have killed you to write one more sentence explaining why adding an additional 75 ohm resistance to the output of a device whose output impedance is already too high is a bad idea?

 

Great, you got your hipster cred.  But I was under the impression that part of the culture of this community was being helpful to noobs.  Apparently I was mistaken.triportsad.gif

 

Hipster,...lol!!! Thanks!!! wink_face.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by Saraguie 
 
Has nothing to do with 'hipster cred' It has everything to do with, spending 15 minutes or so and familiarizing yourself with what your asking about. Me, I feel stupid when I ask a duh question so I try to read to educate myself before asking. Its not as easy as depending on someone to do the work for me but a lot more satisfying when I do some of the work myself. And I find I get more help when I know what questions to ask.

 

Im like you. I'll READ and see if my answer is already in the thread. Usually it is,... And being a nOOb is no excuse for laziness. 

post #2744 of 8335

Hi

I wonder how ak100 sound with akgk3003?

 Please share your experience.

Thx

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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

Has nothing to do with 'hipster cred' It has everything to do with, spending 15 minutes or so and familiarizing yourself with what your asking about. Me, I feel stupid when I ask a duh question so I try to read to educate myself before asking. Its not as easy as depending on someone to do the work for me but a lot more satisfying when I do some of the work myself. And I find I get more help when I know what questions to ask.

 

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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post

 

Hipster,...lol!!! Thanks!!! wink_face.gif

 

 

 

Im like you. I'll READ and see if my answer is already in the thread. Usually it is,... And being a nOOb is no excuse for laziness. 

 

 

To be fair this is a big arse thread and it's taken me a couple of days to plough through, rather than 15 minutes! ;)

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