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post #1531 of 8628
Thread Starter 
What is the 'flat' gain setting on DX100 and RWAK100?

Are the two units that you are testing have the same gain setting?
post #1532 of 8628
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

What is the 'flat' gain setting on DX100 and RWAK100?
Are the two units that you are testing have the same gain setting?

 

Good questions actually. The DX100 was on low gain (I was using IEMs then). The RWAK100 doesn't actually have a gain switch.

post #1533 of 8628
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Good questions actually. The DX100 was on low gain (I was using IEMs then). The RWAK100 doesn't actually have a gain switch.
The sound signature of the ak100 as you Put it sounds lIke it has a bit of a gain boost.
post #1534 of 8628

I will just wait til next week before a final decision :)

 

Then I think I may be following in AnakChan/Lee730's foot step as well........Oh no, bear market approaching on the DX100. 

 

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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Raw-ish notes. RWAK100 gone through 39 hour constant burn-in either through 24k resistors (thx to Vinnie for the little gadget - but I broke the wire today), or TG!334/XBA-30/Merlin IEMs.

 

Buena Vista Social Club @ 24/96

 

I'm going to say that the two are very close now. I find it hard to distinguish which has the wider soundstage or deeper imaging although I have my preferences. The RWAK100 sounds more crisp and more impactful. The DX100 sounds more mellow by comparison. However that's not necessarily bad as with the mellowness I feel I can appreciate some of the micro-detail which the RWAK100 may mask with it's more impactful presentation.

 

I may lean towards the RWAK100 for a slightly deeper bass too.

 

Norah Jones Come Away with me @ 24/192

 

The RWAK100 seems to sound more holographic. In fact there's almost a bit of a tubish signature but still a little grainy (so like a tube amp that hasn't really warmed up yet??). The DX100 sounds less holographic - despite that, Norah's voice on the DX100 doesn't feel as forward. Again this could be the laid-backness found in previous album.

 

The Eagles Hell Freezes Over @ 16/44.1

 

The DX100's mellowness is definitely more apparent here. The RWAK100 on the other hand feels more "dramatic" in its presentation. When listening to both, The RWAK100 definitely stands out more by grabbing your attention whereas the DX100 seems to "ease" into it.

 

Interrim Summary

 

Quick thoughts after the 39 hr burn in, the RWAK100 feels like a strong contender to the DX100. Both are different in the way they execute. Hopefully I'm not too off in my analogies here but I'd say that the RWAK100 is like a 25 yr old Equities trader during a Russell Rebalance morning in a bull market, whilst the DX100 is more like a 40 yr old Risk Operations manager. Both are thorough and articulate but execution in different styles.

 

Edit: Another update (and hopefully final) after 72 hrs.


Edited by spkrs01 - 1/4/13 at 4:54am
post #1535 of 8628

Oh oh! You too? I am going to be left behind to bite the dust.

post #1536 of 8628

I just bought AK100 from Japanese shopping proxy.

Lol, it's really a lot money for me.

I hope AK100 will exceptionally sound well. 

However, i read more people complaining about AK100's SQ :(

Really disappointed !


Edited by Alias Gu - 1/4/13 at 6:30am
post #1537 of 8628
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Raw-ish notes. RWAK100 gone through 39 hour constant burn-in either through 24k resistors (thx to Vinnie for the little gadget - but I broke the wire today), or TG!334/XBA-30/Merlin IEMs.

 

Buena Vista Social Club @ 24/96

 

I'm going to say that the two are very close now. I find it hard to distinguish which has the wider soundstage or deeper imaging although I have my preferences. The RWAK100 sounds more crisp and more impactful. The DX100 sounds more mellow by comparison. However that's not necessarily bad as with the mellowness I feel I can appreciate some of the micro-detail which the RWAK100 may mask with it's more impactful presentation.

 

I may lean towards the RWAK100 for a slightly deeper bass too.

 

Norah Jones Come Away with me @ 24/192

 

The RWAK100 seems to sound more holographic. In fact there's almost a bit of a tubish signature but still a little grainy (so like a tube amp that hasn't really warmed up yet??). The DX100 sounds less holographic - despite that, Norah's voice on the DX100 doesn't feel as forward. Again this could be the laid-backness found in previous album.

 

The Eagles Hell Freezes Over @ 16/44.1

 

The DX100's mellowness is definitely more apparent here. The RWAK100 on the other hand feels more "dramatic" in its presentation. When listening to both, The RWAK100 definitely stands out more by grabbing your attention whereas the DX100 seems to "ease" into it.

 

Interrim Summary

 

Quick thoughts after the 39 hr burn in, the RWAK100 feels like a strong contender to the DX100. Both are different in the way they execute. Hopefully I'm not too off in my analogies here but I'd say that the RWAK100 is like a 25 yr old Equities trader during a Russell Rebalance morning in a bull market, whilst the DX100 is more like a 40 yr old Risk Operations manager. Both are thorough and articulate but execution in different styles.

 

Edit: Another update (and hopefully final) after 72 hrs.

 

AC or others--  Do you notice substantial differences in the SQ among the various file formats/resolutions?  Many times I find that I enjoy the 16/44.1 flacs more than the 24/192 flacs.   With the "lower-rez" files, the soundstage seems more wide open and the music seems grander, while various high-rez files sound a bit muted in comparision.  Not sure if this phenomenae is something that's common regardless of the DAP. 

 

I have a non-Vinnied AK100 using FTG334s with the ALO SXC cable.    

post #1538 of 8628
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Raw-ish notes. RWAK100 gone through 39 hour constant burn-in either through 24k resistors (thx to Vinnie for the little gadget - but I broke the wire today), or TG!334/XBA-30/Merlin IEMs.

 

Buena Vista Social Club @ 24/96

 

I'm going to say that the two are very close now. I find it hard to distinguish which has the wider soundstage or deeper imaging although I have my preferences. The RWAK100 sounds more crisp and more impactful. The DX100 sounds more mellow by comparison. However that's not necessarily bad as with the mellowness I feel I can appreciate some of the micro-detail which the RWAK100 may mask with it's more impactful presentation.

 

I may lean towards the RWAK100 for a slightly deeper bass too.

 

Norah Jones Come Away with me @ 24/192

 

The RWAK100 seems to sound more holographic. In fact there's almost a bit of a tubish signature but still a little grainy (so like a tube amp that hasn't really warmed up yet??). The DX100 sounds less holographic - despite that, Norah's voice on the DX100 doesn't feel as forward. Again this could be the laid-backness found in previous album.

 

The Eagles Hell Freezes Over @ 16/44.1

 

The DX100's mellowness is definitely more apparent here. The RWAK100 on the other hand feels more "dramatic" in its presentation. When listening to both, The RWAK100 definitely stands out more by grabbing your attention whereas the DX100 seems to "ease" into it.

 

Interrim Summary

 

Quick thoughts after the 39 hr burn in, the RWAK100 feels like a strong contender to the DX100. Both are different in the way they execute. Hopefully I'm not too off in my analogies here but I'd say that the RWAK100 is like a 25 yr old Equities trader during a Russell Rebalance morning in a bull market, whilst the DX100 is more like a 40 yr old Risk Operations manager. Both are thorough and articulate but execution in different styles.

 

Edit: Another update (and hopefully final) after 72 hrs.


What gain setting on the DX100? For me, there is a difference between low and high gain and in high gain, there is more bite and it is always my preferences, with IEM's or anything else.

post #1539 of 8628
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post


What gain setting on the DX100? For me, there is a difference between low and high gain and in high gain, there is more bite and it is always my preferences, with IEM's or anything else.

 

Unfortunately the DX100, even on low gain, is incredulously loud for my TG334s...

 

Also to AnakChan, Thanks! I will post more later on about it as I burn it in... just having to copy music into it since I have to convert most of my library into FLAC xD

post #1540 of 8628

got my RWAK100!

 

Now I gotta ask this: anyone found a good case for it yet?  (the bag does not count!)

 

So far soo good.  I was able to format a 64gig card and the whole thing is burning in now.

post #1541 of 8628
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Originally Posted by GloryUprising View Post

got my RWAK100!

Now I gotta ask this: anyone found a good case for it yet?  (the bag does not count!)

So far soo good.  I was able to format a 64gig card and the whole thing is burning in now.

I haven't seen a "proper" case for them but I'm on the lookout now...
post #1542 of 8628

I have a Monster Turbine case and it fits perfectly.

No need to unplug the jack, very handy and nice protection.

 

 

post #1543 of 8628
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Originally Posted by ApaucalyptiK View Post

I have a Monster Turbine case and it fits perfectly.

No need to unplug the jack, very handy and nice protection.

 

 

 

Thinking outside the box; I like.

 

I was thinking of trying this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003F9O770/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1RWKPFAWBM25YMYY65RZ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1389517282&pf_rd_i=507846

 

But I am worried about the knob....

post #1544 of 8628
Quote:
Originally Posted by ApaucalyptiK View Post

I have a Monster Turbine case and it fits perfectly.
No need to unplug the jack, very handy and nice protection.






I guess the only problem will be having "monster" on it, people might ask if thats a beatspod. C:
post #1545 of 8628

I'd consider something like this and keep the ends away from the edges. http://www.bestskinsever.com/diy-skins

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