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post #136 of 8364

iRiver AK 100 Press Release, Anything you need to know about this DAP:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Diriver%2Bak%2B100%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1600%26bih%3D805%26prmd%3Dimvnsu&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=ja&u=http://www.iriver.jp/images/press/pdf/iriver_press20121010.pdf&usg=ALkJrhimMZeBkzAwpT2vTGdQsrSHIZi2qQ

post #137 of 8364

Does that PDF hint no gap-less, or... ?!

post #138 of 8364
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Originally Posted by musicday View Post

If you read carefully the review about the guys said that iRiver AK sound very clean with sensitive IEM, and knowing nealry all iRiver products i belive they took their time to come up with an original design and preminum sound, and yes it does work with anything from 16-300 ohm.

well sorry but if the output impedance is 22ohms, I dont care what they say, it is NOT suitable for IEMs, particularly multidriver IEMs, since due to the crossover they can present less than 10ohms in the bass, even those like my jh13 that are rated at 28ohms nominal. this results in an uneven power response vs frequency
post #139 of 8364

Look, stop being ridiculous. I've been listening to mine all day without incident, enjoying how it sounds, trying a variety of genres out... chilling out to some female vocals, some nasty bass lines, some widdly guitars... it's a bit of niche consumer electronics, not an identity crisis in a box.

 

Just turn the bloody thing on and listen to it!

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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

I know this is weird.....I have a brand new one fully charged for three days and have not turned it on. I'm scared!!!!! eek.gif

LOL......I've had my share of quirky freezing software and don't want to go there again.

 

Then I hear about SQ....now 196GB....and if you just are patient its all good......just when I thought I was done, like Al Pacino....."They drag me back in"

post #140 of 8364
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Originally Posted by Somnambulist View Post

Look, stop being ridiculous. I've been listening to mine all day without incident, enjoying how it sounds, trying a variety of genres out... chilling out to some female vocals, some nasty bass lines, some widdly guitars... it's a bit of niche consumer electronics, not an identity crisis in a box.

 

Just turn the bloody thing on and listen to it!

Is he talking about an ipod? ha ha

post #141 of 8364
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Originally Posted by musicday View Post

Anybody want to give them a call to find out when AK 100 will be released or sold in UK?

Distribution
NTP (UK) Limited
Address
Ashridge Manor, Forest Road, Wokingham,
Berkshire, RG40 5RB, United Kingdom
Tel
+44 (0) 118 989 3434
Fax
+44 (0) 118 989 3435
Email
info@ntpuk.com
Web Site
www.ntpuk.co.uk
www.iriveruk.com

I gave them a call today and the guy has not even heard about it.

He also said they don't really have that much to do with iriver anymore.

post #142 of 8364

check here. no matter you can read korean or not... there has enough graph to see

http://goldenears.net/2459115

post #143 of 8364

and price in korea is around 580usd

post #144 of 8364
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Originally Posted by bearjk1982 View Post

check here. no matter you can read korean or not... there has enough graph to see

http://goldenears.net/2459115

Thank you for that. Cowon S9 output independence is 2.17 ohm and iRiver AK 100 is 22.41, so that mean is i use my Westone 4R this won't sound good?

post #145 of 8364
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Originally Posted by musicday View Post

Thank you for that. Cowon S9 output independence is 2.17 ohm and iRiver AK 100 is 22.41, so that mean is i use my Westone 4R this won't sound good?

i think it is not about good or bad, but will change the sound signatual

http://goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Earphones&page=2&document_srl=2049727

 

check 05 impedance and phase.

 

if u change device s9 to ak100, based on what they said you gonna have lil bit more midhigh and bass(below 100hrz)

 

http://goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Mobile&page=4&document_srl=17826

post #146 of 8364
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Originally Posted by bearjk1982 View Post

check here. no matter you can read korean or not... there has enough graph to see

http://goldenears.net/2459115

 

Goldenears are really quick on measuring new product:) .Good looking graphs. Hope the it will sound as it looks

post #147 of 8364
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Originally Posted by musicday View Post

Thank you for that. Cowon S9 output independence is 2.17 ohm and iRiver AK 100 is 22.41, so that mean is i use my Westone 4R this won't sound good?

Higher output impedance generally means the frequency response will not be as intended by the manufacturer on lower impedance earphones, especially those with nonlinear impedance curves. It could change sig and become less balanced. Don't know about the s9 but the I9 shows bass roll off on low impedance devices even though it's output impedance is in the acceptable range. Likely uses too small of a DC blocking capacitor at the output so there's always more to it.

 

If the output impedance measurement is accurate on the AK100 (RMAA can be fooled), I'm pretty disappointed in the result. It may be acceptable in many cases but when you design leading edge and upmarket product, why make this big of a compromise. It would be easy to design in a lower output impedance. If true, this is a major oversight and disconnect in the planning or design phase. I had high hopes for this one and now my interest if waning.


Edited by goodvibes - 10/11/12 at 5:42am
post #148 of 8364

This is really strange, on the official release photo the iRiver logo on on the front of the player, now is gone?

Who made this after all?

post #149 of 8364

Sad that it is 22 ohms. That is ridiculous. How can they mess up on something so basic.....? Wonder if  they will address this before releasing the player because this is not acceptable. Come on what do you think the main crowd for this device would be for? The portable crowd and most of which is sensitive IEMs, not headphones.... Leave the full-size headphones at home ;).
 


Edited by lee730 - 10/11/12 at 6:06am
post #150 of 8364

DX100

 

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Originally Posted by musicday View Post

Is he talking about an ipod? ha ha

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