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Well, I'm not taking anyone's side (except mine, obviously)! I simply wrote about what I hear, the way I hear it and what I did to get there! I never wrote anywhere these are better or worse than A or B, as I just think they're different from everything I've heard so far... And most of the times I just happen to like what I hear from them!

 

I'll give you that they do sound different than anything I've heard as well.  

 

Do the mids and highs sound like they're cohesive and in sync with the bass to you?  That was the other thing they sound a bit off to me like there was a phasing issue or something, it wasn't huge but noticeable at times for me.

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It's almost an insult to insinuate that we had a bad seal. I have an arsenal of tips that I threw at them to make sure it fit well, yet the basic sound sig remained the same. Same with sources. I tried my Fiio E10, my girlfriend's iPhone 5, and my own iphone 4. Still the same. We're not in the minority here. I'll repost my thread digging results:

 

 


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I got my H-100RR today.

Found Odd:
- With my cowon d2, or external dac + O2 at work, I can hear a distinct upper mids (see below) and separate treble peak (hats), making it sound somewhat unnatural and unpleasant/artificial. (grating and v-shaped). To the point of being disturbing and me probably describing them as having off tonal balance (modern music sound ok, but female vocals - hollow, and classical sounds horrible, with fortepiano sounding like harpsichord for say Levin or Tan)
- With Musiland MD30's internal amp, low impedance HP socket (as in low power earphone socket, not low output impedance ) - they sound very nice. Crisp but not over the top treble, only a slight upper mids bump and deep bass (maybe some very slight resonance in the upper mids). Not perfect, but by far more coherent than AF78, and awesome for that price (I prefer UM's TWFK or 2TWFK tuning for treble and upper mids, but I know a lot of people think it's too bright). If anything I'll probably keep them as a replacement for Full-size headphones for late night listening or movies.
 

 

 

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hmm interesting you guys seem to be big fans of forward treble (relative to lower mids) and slight relative upper mids accent.
I guess if it's a common tuning for non mids forward iems it must be good.
I listened to too many 1-2.5k bump iems and speakers, and it sounds completely unnatural to me. not 'balanced' biggrin.gif, to the point of overall tonality of pieces and balance between instruments and or voice being fairly off and them sounding thin and treble and upper mids heavy.
also, I noticed the plug strain relief was torn out of the box on my pair. (the lowest ring is half torn)
 

 

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Regarding burn-in. I'm not a believer in 500-800 hours of burn-in for these types of units, but I will say that when I yesterday listened to the H-100 for twenty minutes right out of the box I wasn't convinced that this purchase would really enhance the quality of my life. Very brief, vocals sounded very much off!  So I left my home in a very depressed state while the H-100 burned in for 6-8 hours and when i picked them up again it was vastly a very different experience.  The cross-overs in hybrids, burn-in effect on this?  I would be very much willing to believe that this area could to be responsible for this change. 

 

 

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The first thing I noticed was vocals were really really recessed I'm not sure about your pairs but these gave new meaning to TF10's recessed mids the first 10 minutes. However, after only 10 minutes use they seemed to change already waking up. Almost like the BA drivers were dead set stiff eh..They've since come forward to the intended position .
They require a lot of power for a 32ohm IEM. I need 33/40 to bring them up to speed on my Cowon S9 There's good separation, micro detail , air and a decent width soundstage using the Colourfly C3, they sound very different to anything I've ever heard and I won't rule out how nice that sound is just yet.
Too early to give impressions at this stage, very different to anything I've heard.
 

 

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So far, I'm not all that impressed with the H-100 though. It sounds like my sample has THD and sibilance problems, it's a little bright and mids are thin-sounding for my personal taste. I'll have it burn in for a while to see if that helps. 

 

 

 

Still, I have another pair coming that should be here tomorrow. If I find them better, great. If not, I'll be selling it for $85.

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For my last post here, as I don't want to be insultuous to anyone again, I agree with all the above with a shallow insertion and/or bad seal! I never said these were good allrounders, or the best IEM for this or that! I even said that these fail miserably in some conditions, but I also said that what they do well, they do it very well! And look, I just said it again...

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My last post also (at least for today, maybe), I know how to get a really good seal and I tried every depth I could with the H-100 and they never sounded any different.  Insertion or seal has nothing to do with what I was hearing because I know how to wear an IEM.  Everyone has different tastes and these fit yours which is great I'm glad you like them but they just weren't for me.

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Well I sold mine and the person that got them loved them, now they were his first good set but I know they sound like everyone else's its just the people that think the mids sound thin have better hearing than others do bigsmile_face.gif.

 

 

You know I generally prefer well resolving mids. I don't like V-shaped sound. Sometimes it's fun for a while but I get a headache very quickly (I mean that literally). So when I got the R50, I was really happy. They sound almost 'perfect' and 'reference-like' (within reasonable expectations - I'm not comparing to top-end customs, okay). When I first heard the H100, I was half 'WTF? that sounds harsh' and half 'awesome'. After experimenting with different tips, I could remove the WTF part and just settle on awesome. Now with my DIY tips, I really can't complain much about anything - yeah, the frequency range borders are still increased a bit, but the mids definitely aren't thin anymore. I now listen to my favorite female singers and they sound completely, totally right. Not thin or nasally.

 

Mind you I tried about 10 different sets of tips (not counting the stock ones) and had to experiment a bit with proper insertion until I found the right combination. So while you may have a lot of experience with IEMs and know how to handle them, it's still quite possible that the stars weren't aligned properly when you tried the H100 wink_face.gif

 

I'm just stating my observations - various people right in this thread really perceive the H100 very differently. Apparently there's something odd about these earphones which doesn't make it universal. Everyone kinda agrees that IE8 is more bassy than GR07 which is still more bassy than dba02, but check all the descriptions of H100 - they're all over the place. That dude with the lion avatar says they're bassy. I'm like - what? I hear more bass from the R50 so what gives?

 

Or maybe the QA sucks royally and every sample is totally different biggrin.gif

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Still, I have another pair coming that should be here tomorrow. If I find them better, great. If not, I'll be selling it for $85.

Please do. This way I may get another pair cheaply. Which version are you getting? wink.gif

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Just because there's not a lot going on in the e-Q5 thread doesn't mean there not better than these AM radio sounding things wink.gif

I don't care. I DON'T CARE! etysmile.gif
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I don't care. I DON'T CARE! etysmile.gif

 

LOL, I know you don't :)

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I am another person who finds this things is just bursting with AWESOMENESS!!!

 

In fact, after 3 days of burn-in, mechanical and brain, I can now comfortably listen to it unamped, is it the effect of burn-in? not sure but don't really care beyersmile.png

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Originally Posted by PMAP View Postso what gives?

 

Or maybe the QA sucks royally and every sample is totally different biggrin.gif

 

This pair seems to correspond to impressions in here but I had seriously considered that at one point ( not because they are bad to me )

The only %100 sure-fire way to tell is to  double up . Aquamarine looks good next to the gold ones in the pics i think.wink.gif


Edited by nick n - 11/15/12 at 8:34pm
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My apologies for coming to this thread late, what is the selling price of these? Is the Head-Fi discount still active?

 

thanks. 

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$120 which includes EMS shipping to my understanding. (mention Head-fi and this thread) Yes still active. smile.gif
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Reached the 40 hour mark and gave an audit to the H-100s. running through the PC+Foobar and Ordnance .25 amp/dac.

 

Initial impression : Soundstage is amazing! Clear separation of instruments and good positioning. Eric Clapton - Tears in heaven. There are two sets of acoustic guitars being played in the background and i previously couldn't image where the position was with the fi10s. through the H-100 i've an image that Clapton is playing it (vocals and guitar at the same location in the middle) and the other guitar played separately on the left channel. I've just run through Hans Zimmer (Inception & Sherlock Holmes OST), Daft Punk (Tron OST) and Clapton so far. *Mombassa - Inception OST and Romani Holiday (Antonious Remix) were two tracks that really hit me on how amazing the separation and clarity was. give it a go guys on these two songs!

 

However, i do notice the upper mids to the treble region on these are a bit heavy. giving an impression that it lacks slightly on the body and tonality especially on vocals and electric guitars. Im running through the rock genre now and find that the tone on some guitars are off due to the heavy upper mids. Its awfully bright for the rock genre. I've just tried the tip mod with foams in the core and it has reduced the shrill considerably and tamed down the upper mids and treble to a level that i find acceptable. i hear more body on the guitars now. but i must say the mids on these are not as good as the TF10s and TF10s are not known for its mids.

 

Nuff said bout bass. 10/10. I will have to go through more songs and genre to find a personal conclusion on these iems. i will let my brain burn in to its signature throughout this weekend. For now i still find a longing for my TF10s with upgraded cables (i've not touch it since burn in period for the H-100). i told myself i will audit these with a clear mind but i can't help but compare back to the TF10s. One thing is for sure the H-100 does separation and soundstage brilliantly! i've been hearing things i never did with TF10s.

 

*Im not a seasoned audiophile and only have limited iem experience. so mind my impression. Its just what i hear. discard it if u think its rubbish.lol

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Reached the 40 hour mark and gave an audit to the H-100s. running through the PC+Foobar and Ordnance .25 amp/dac.

 

*Mombassa - Inception OST and Romani Holiday (Antonious Remix) were two tracks that really hit me on how amazing the separation and clarity was. give it a go guys on these two songs!

 

 

Yeahhh Brudda!! Mombassa is phenomenal track, that is one of my 'IEM-testing' track...

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(I can't tell how this video sounds since my sound cart is crap by ripped CD is awesome with H100.)

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