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Headphone that complements or replaces LCD-2

post #1 of 30
10/3/12 at 5:59pm
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Hello all, well currently I've got the LCD-2 and Burson HA160D. I enjoy it very much, but the LCD-2 make my head feel like I have a hangover if I wear them for more than 2 hours, so I would like to ask for your recommendations that complement or replace the LCD-2. I will most likely keep the LCD-2 unless this headphone that you recommend really kicks LCD-2's butt. I don't mind the new headphone just complementing my current LCD-2. 

 

What I'm looking for: Comfort, Good Sound, Available on eBay (got loads of eBay bucks to spend), and synergy with 160D

 

Things I would like but don't need: A bit more neutral sound, still a good bass response

 

Headphones I dislike: HD650

 

Music Genres: Dubstep, House, Jazz, JPop, KPop, Dance Rock, J Dance Rock and lots of Hip Hop and Rap. Bold indicates I listen to more often than non bold music genre. 

 

Budget: Nothing over $1500, unless I sell LCD-2 (but I would rather not sell my LCD-2). If I do sell LCD-2 then budget is $2000, but again I rather would not unless it really kicks some butt in the genres I listen too

 

 

 

Thanks guys!

 

 

 

Thomas


Edited by vampire5003 - 10/3/12 at 6:33pm
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post #2 of 30
10/4/12 at 12:53am
Hd700 should be more comfortable than the LCD. Also beyerdynamic T series.
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post #3 of 30
10/4/12 at 2:36am

HD650 is probably the most comfortable headphones. I can wear them 24/7 and my head never gets tired. It also has pretty much the same sound signature as LCD-2, I´m talking about the amount of bass, miss, treble (little more treble/air in LCD-2), but obviously LCD-2 sounds tighter and just better and more "hi-fi" in all these areas so...

 

I´m actually looking a replacement for LCD-2 too, ´cause they are indeed very uncomfortable, but so far haven´t found anything... :/

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post #4 of 30
10/4/12 at 8:19am
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Now I'm looking for a DAC too, I'm interested in Bel Canto DAC 2.5, ONKYO DAC-1000, and DAC Mini. As far as headphones go, IDK what to do! Perhaps if I.....
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post #5 of 30
10/4/12 at 11:29am

The only recommendation that I can give 1st hand is the HE500's, they compliment my LCD2's quite well. They work well because they both have the orthos sound but have completely different signatures. The 500's have amazing treble, its very smooth and slightly zingy (in a good way). They also have very good bass when amped sufficiently, not as tight or textured as the LCD's but at this price range the LCD's can't be beat in the bass department imo. The 500's also have a  wider and seemingly airyer soundstage and this is welcome for certain music types. I've often thought about getting the HD800's instead of the hifimans but I feel they may be too much of a contrast to the LCD2's and I've come to the conclusion that you are either and HD800 man or an LCD2's fellow!

 

Also they are a bargain at the mo, especially if you cant snap a pair up 2nd hand.

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post #6 of 30
10/4/12 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

The only recommendation that I can give 1st hand is the HE500's, they compliment my LCD2's quite well. They work well because they both have the orthos sound but have completely different signatures. The 500's have amazing treble, its very smooth and slightly zingy (in a good way). They also have very good bass when amped sufficiently, not as tight or textured as the LCD's but at this price range the LCD's can't be beat in the bass department imo. The 500's also have a  wider and seemingly airyer soundstage and this is welcome for certain music types. I've often thought about getting the HD800's instead of the hifimans but I feel they may be too much of a contrast to the LCD2's and I've come to the conclusion that you are either and HD800 man or an LCD2's fellow!

Also they are a bargain at the mo, especially if you cant snap a pair up 2nd hand.

Would you say the HE-500 as more comfortable? The LCD-2's are hurting my head as we speak.
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post #7 of 30
10/4/12 at 11:39am
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Would you say the HE-500 as more comfortable? The LCD-2's are hurting my head as we speak.

I meant to mention, yes the 500's are more comfortable for longer listening sessions (especially with the velour pads). They may actually be a fraction heavier, but they don't have the same clamp pressure as the LCD's. I've fallen asleep with the HE500's on. I've never with the LCD2's.

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post #8 of 30
10/4/12 at 11:41am

+1 for the HE500, though tbh they aren't any comfier than the LCD2s, at least to me. Sound-wise though they compliment the LCD2s really well, especially with their exciting and nicely defined treble, airy soundstage and profound instrument separation.

 

That said, they weigh heavier than the LCD2s imo. If comfort is an issue, go with the HD800s.


Edited by Darkbeat - 10/4/12 at 11:42am
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post #9 of 30
10/5/12 at 8:22am
I have the he-400 and they are not comfortable when compare to other headphone such as the hd600/650. The he-500 are heavier so I doubt that it will be comfortable.
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post #10 of 30
10/5/12 at 8:24am
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I have the he-400 and they are not comfortable when compare to other headphone such as the hd600/650. The he-500 are heavier so I doubt that it will be comfortable.

Yeah I'm keeping the LCD-2's, and I just ordered a Thorens TD160 Turn Table and plan to get a better DAC. Once I've got that out of the way, perhaps in January I'll order the HD800 for good comfort biggrin.gif
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post #11 of 30
10/5/12 at 9:04am
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Yeah I'm keeping the LCD-2's, and I just ordered a Thorens TD160 Turn Table and plan to get a better DAC. Once I've got that out of the way, perhaps in January I'll order the HD800 for good comfort biggrin.gif

Sounds great. Nice system. biggrin.gif
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post #12 of 30
10/8/12 at 7:30am
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Sounds great. Nice system. biggrin.gif

Thanks! I just realized Half Price Books had over 1000 vinyl LP's at like $1 and $0.50 in mint condition! I was shocked! I found a original release Elton John's Greatest Hits with no scratches and the artwork in amazing condition for $1. Aerosmith (I'm a huge fan) was only $1 and its the original debut album from the 70's. Gosh I found some of the best deals there. Frank Sinatra was almost new for $2 dollars lol. I was so happy! Can't wait till Wednesday (turntable comes on that day)!


Thomas
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post #13 of 30
10/8/12 at 8:13am

In your original post you indicated that the LCD-2 “make my head feel like I have a hangover if I wear them for more than 2 hours” If this is being caused by excessive pressure being applied to the joint of your jaw, there may be a solution.

 

I had read that allot of people were having issues with the comfort of the Audeze’s , yet I found my Rev.1 ‘s to be great and could wear them for hours. Then I purchased a pair of Rev.2’s and discovered what everyone was talking about. It turns out the problem for me was all in the headband, my Rev.2 with the Rev.1 foam headband are fantastic, still heavy mind you but the pressure point at my jaw is gone.  Not sure if the design of the headbands are that different or possibly the previous owner had bent the foam band out to release some of the pressure. Either way, it makes them much more bearable for longer listening sessions.

 

It's too bad you don't like the HD650's, I find my HD600's to be the most comfortable cans I've tried.


Edited by kozmo - 10/8/12 at 8:23am
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post #14 of 30
10/8/12 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by kozmo View Post

In your original post you indicated that the LCD-2 “make my head feel like I have a hangover if I wear them for more than 2 hours” If this is being caused by excessive pressure being applied to the joint of your jaw, there may be a solution.

I had read that allot of people were having issues with the comfort of the Audeze’s , yet I found my Rev.1 ‘s to be great and could wear them for hours. Then I purchased a pair of Rev.2’s and discovered what everyone was talking about. It turns out the problem for me was all in the headband, my Rev.2 with the Rev.1 foam headband are fantastic, still heavy mind you but the pressure point at my jaw is gone.  Not sure if the design of the headbands are that different or possibly the previous owner had bent the foam band out to release some of the pressure. Either way, it makes them much more bearable for longer listening sessions.

Oh ok I see, I've had two problems with these LCD-2's. First is the headband makes my head hurt in the middle kinda like someone put there hand on your head (right in the middle) and started banging on there hand causing your head to hurt like someone hit it with a hammer. Another pain I get is from the clamp force, it presses on my right cheek, causing my braces to poke the hell out of my cheeks and gums (yes I wear braces and sadly have for over 4 years).I could either keep these or exchange them for HD800, HD700, Grado PS1000i, Grado GS1000i or from many others that SoundEarphones. I think I'll keep these, but have been tempted to return these to SoundEarphones for a full refund and buy the HD800 used.
Edited by vampire5003 - 10/8/12 at 8:25am
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post #15 of 30
10/8/12 at 9:00am

In my case I much rather have the LCD2.2's for comfort.

The clamping is much reduced and the pads are much softer. I did sometimes get jaw ache with the 2.1's.

I can and have worn the 2.2's for hours. Never had any issues with the headband on either.

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