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post #136 of 175

Wait a sec... will the DT 990 pads fit also?

post #137 of 175
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

If its anything like its older brother the m50x, then nope. The m50x has a heavy v-shape. I don't really care which one has a more "fun" sound. I want detail. The k240 is actually a dark headphone... Ask almost anyone. You want bright? Go try a Grado. You won't find it with k240's... Overbloated? Man, now I think you're exaggerating a little. A 4db difference across the spectrum is nothing. A human ear can't even detect a difference of 2db. Bloated is Sony XB's and v-moda lp's. No matter what you're opinion, the k240 is an analytical and neutral headphone.

 

I have to agree with the other poster that the AKG K240 is over bloated. The K240 is coloured and I don't think analytical since I'm missing details that my other headphones and IEM can pick up. 

 

I have used the AKG K240S for many years for checking my mixes and I have compared it extensively against my other headphones and IEM's. The result is that the AKG K240S is gathering dust now. 


Edited by ubs28 - 7/4/14 at 4:06pm
post #138 of 175
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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post

I have to agree with the other poster that the AKG K240 is over bloated. The K240 is coloured and I don't think analytical since I'm missing details that my other headphones and IEM can pick up. 

I have used the AKG K240S for many years for checking my mixes and I have compared it extensively against my other headphones and IEM's. The result is that the AKG K240S is gathering dust now. 
name your source, amp, and other comparison headphones you used please... And it is definitely not overbloated. I don't hear this "bloat". I hear slight coloration across the spectrum, but bloat?... You guys throwing words out there reminds me a lot of audiophiles calling m-audio q40's and beats studios "cannons". They just aren't. Nor are the k240's bloated... Colored. Yes. Bloated. No.
post #139 of 175
I heard some bloat too. It contributes to their "funky" sound that makes them kind of unique. Bloated in the sense that the bass doesn't sound articulate.
post #140 of 175
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Originally Posted by KlarkKentThe3rd View Post
 

Wait a sec... will the DT 990 pads fit also?


Yes, the DT 880/990 and DT 770 pads will fit, they are just a pain to put on.

post #141 of 175
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post


name your source, amp, and other comparison headphones you used please... And it is definitely not overbloated. I don't hear this "bloat". I hear slight coloration across the spectrum, but bloat?... You guys throwing words out there reminds me a lot of audiophiles calling m-audio q40's and beats studios "cannons". They just aren't. Nor are the k240's bloated... Colored. Yes. Bloated. No.

Apogee One, professional grade DAC + AMP with my Retina Macbook Pro. Below is a visual comparison to my Shure SRH 1840. Honestly, with a 10 db boost in the mid bass, recessed mids and a treble spike, the AKG K240S is not neutral and I hear it with my ears very easily. 

 

Try listening to other high end headphones / earphones and you'll hear how bloated the AKG K240S sounds. If you can't hear the bloat, I wonder how you can do mixing and mastering if you can't even pick this up which is not hard to hear.

 

Blue = Shure SRH 1840

Red = AKG K240S


Edited by ubs28 - 7/5/14 at 12:10am
post #142 of 175
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post
 


I think it is, I should of done that, it was insanely comfortable with the DT 880/990 pads. I may be getting my K240 MKII backs quite soon. That's why I wear the pleathers to avoid itchiness and the openings are bigger, once the pleathers break in they are much more comfy than the velours imo. The K712 pads are wonderful, easily the most comfy headphone I own.

Well ..I got them 

 

 

 

I did something different to make them sound less thin and more neutral than warm , instead of cutting the air by adding tape I decided to go and add two layers of foam , one was the stock 990 foam then the 240 on top of it , this rolled off 8K by around 2db and the rest band by 1db , Instead of faking a number I had one cup without the foam and the other with the two , the difference was quite noticeable , since I like my 880s a lot this change is not too bad for me , the bass took the hit and there's no sub-bass ..LOL 

But the comfort is excellent considering there are two foam disks 

I think they sound excellent ! 


Edited by MrTechAgent - 7/5/14 at 9:47am
post #143 of 175
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post

 

 

Well upon further testing , I have found the right orientation which retains the fidelity 

 

I did 3 tests , 1 was with the above orientation (2 Foam disks) ,2 was the tape and one foam disk (Beyer one) , 3 was with the factory pads and foam 

 

1 was just a tad light in the bass , 2 had just a touch more , 3 was exactly as 2 

I am assuming the perceived bass response is the same , since 3 has a stiffer foam ,  its rolling off the highs , might have more perceived bass but in real testing the extension is about the same 

 

So I find 2 to be the most neutral without any loss in extension but more neutral treble , 1 was more bright and thin , 3.. well I don't think it needs any explanation 

2 , its going to be stable for several hours now and the comfort is excellent ! 

 

 

 

 

 

post #144 of 175
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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post

Apogee One, professional grade DAC + AMP with my Retina Macbook Pro. Below is a visual comparison to my Shure SRH 1840. Honestly, with a 10 db boost in the mid bass, recessed mids and a treble spike, the AKG K240S is not neutral and I hear it with my ears very easily. 

Try listening to other high end headphones / earphones and you'll hear how bloated the AKG K240S sounds. If you can't hear the bloat, I wonder how you can do mixing and mastering if you can't even pick this up which is not hard to hear.



Blue = Shure SRH 1840
Red = AKG K240S
is that just pure measurements, or is it the adjusted measurements to simulate what we actually hear? Because if you apply the changes its around 3-5.5db in the lower mids and upper bass, and not 10db. I hear around 4db boost. Not this 10db you are trying to tell me it has. 10db is what the beats studio 2.0's have, and I know these are more neutral than those from experience.
post #145 of 175
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

is that just pure measurements, or is it the adjusted measurements to simulate what we actually hear? Because if you apply the changes its around 3-5.5db in the lower mids and upper bass, and not 10db. I hear around 4db boost. Not this 10db you are trying to tell me it has. 10db is what the beats studio 2.0's have, and I know these are more neutral than those from experience.
I have to say, it is more like this. It is about 4 dB in the low mids and has that treble spike with the sub bass sharply rolling off. That's just the way these things sound, stock.
post #146 of 175

Just tried again the velour pads that came with my k240 mk ii and man, the treble is veeeeeeerrrrrrrrrry harsh, u get more bass also, very v-shape sound overall. Prefer the stock pads.

post #147 of 175
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Originally Posted by rhiga View Post
 

Just tried again the velour pads that came with my k240 mk ii and man, the treble is veeeeeeerrrrrrrrrry harsh, u get more bass also, very v-shape sound overall. Prefer the stock pads.


Thank you, I'll keep that in mind.

post #148 of 175

I bought the AKG K-240 Studio last week, as my first 'good' pair of headphones, ever. Before last week, my best set was Plantronics Audio .665 headset (not the worst, but far from being 'audiophile' quality). After years of going through countless $15 dollar over the head sets, and a handful of earbuds (I usually tried to avoid IEMs/Earbuds because they always fall out or are very uncomfortable), I decided to finally splurge on a good pair, after my last set of Earpollution's died (they stopped producing sound within 2 weeks of opening the package), and went with the AKG-K240 Studio because I saw it got great reviews from Amazon, Head-Fi and other websites, as well as having a few youtube channels recommend them. I paid $70 dollars, and I feel like it was a great deal. The fit isn't the BEST, but it is probably because I have a rather small head, but they don't move if i shake my head, and I do get a good seal all the way around my ear. In a perfect world they would be a hair tighter, but it's not worth sweating over. As far as the sound, I am blown away. The day I received them I was listening to a friend's pair of Bose AEs and was impressed with the quality they put out sound, little did I know that the 'phones I had waiting for me at home sounded even better, and cost a couple hundred less. I am not trying to knock his set, but I prefer mine greatly. I find they put out a pretty clear sound, and although the bass doesn't kick like some headphones I've had, I feel it is accurate in representation (not overcompensated like in many DJ sets, or undercompensated in contrast). I probably have a little over 20 hours so far in 'burn in' time, so I am expecting some change in sound, but so far I am in love. I have been browsing head-fi and reading up on possible amps/dac's I should eventually purchase (currently I am running the AKG-K240's right out of my PC (Realtek HD audio, I know, it's not the best) or iPhone 5, no amp or dac right now, but I honestly have no complaints at all about volume. So far I haven't had to push it past halfway on foobar2k (-10.00db is the current volume level), although I do keep my Windows volume all the way up, I feel like I have more than enough volume to spare with these. I'm eager to see how much better they get with a good amplifier and DAC. I would recommend these headphones to anyone who is looking for a great sub $100 dollar pair. Especially to people who are going for their first pair of 'hi-fi' or 'audiophile' (I know it's more like low to mid-fi in the grand scheme of things) but the sound quality is great compared to what most people think of when they think of headphones (not audiophiles obviously, lol). 

 

I have a few questions though. What portable headphone amps/dac's would work great with the AKG-K240? I'm looking for something preferably between the range of $20-200, maybe a little more if they included both the DAC/amplifier (I won't be buying it for a bit anyways, as I need to find a job first) I've also considered an all in one portable source, something that includes a DAC/Headphone amp built into a media player. I almost feel like this would be a better deal for me, but having an amplifier/dac standalone setup will probably benefit me more in the long run, so I'm unsure. My second question is more specific. Does anyone here have an equalizer preset for foobar2k that is specifically tuned for the AKG-K240? More explicitly, an EQ preset that makes the sound as close to perfect that compensates for the headphone's specific weaknesses? I heard of Accudio, and how it allows you to find an EQ setting that matches up specifically with your headphones to give you the best sound (ideally) possible. If so, could you upload the EQ setting, or take a screenshot with so I can copy it? I would be eternally grateful. 

 

All that said, I think Head-Fi is a great community, and I'm sure I will be hooked from now on. I even have a pair of Sennheiser On-Ear's coming in the mail for a portable pair (I am wondering though if the sound quality will eclipse my AKG's, does anyone have any input on this? How do the Sennheiser Momentum On-Ear's compare to the AKG-K-240? I know they are different beasts, one being a circumaural full size, the other being an on ear portable, but I would really love to hear a comparison between the two, and I will let you know what I think once they arrive in the next few days!) Anyways, happy listening!

post #149 of 175

Just you wait until you hear them through a tube amp!

 

And I disagree. A first pair of "good" $100-or-less headphones should not require an amplifier, because that is additional 50-70$. I would instead recommend Audio Technica M40x or Grado Labs SR60e. Those two are detailed, natural, flat, well-built, and do not need an amplifier to sound good. I actually somewhat regret going for K240 straight away, because now I am stuck without an amp of my own, and the easiest way of obtaining one right now, is to build it myself (with a help of a friend, who has lost of spare parts).

post #150 of 175

Maybe it is due to me not knowing any better, but I think my AKG-K240 Studio's sound fine without an amp, coming straight out of my PC (built in sound card from motherboard) or iPhone 5. This opinion could change though, once I hear them amplified, but for the time being I am very happy with the sound. I haven't had personal experience with the M40x or SR60e, so I can't really offer my opinion on those, although both were considered when I got the AKG, I just couldn't afford the extra 20-30 dollars for them. Personally, I don't regret buying the AKG-K240 Studio, and I will likely run it un-amped for a long time until I can finally afford one. Each their own I guess.

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