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post #121 of 257
If its anything like its older brother the m50x, then nope. The m50x has a heavy v-shape. I don't really care which one has a more "fun" sound. I want detail. The k240 is actually a dark headphone... Ask almost anyone. You want bright? Go try a Grado. You won't find it with k240's... Overbloated? Man, now I think you're exaggerating a little. A 4db difference across the spectrum is nothing. A human ear can't even detect a difference of 2db. Bloated is Sony XB's and v-moda lp's. No matter what you're opinion, the k240 is an analytical and neutral headphone.
post #122 of 257
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

If its anything like its older brother the m50x, then nope. The m50x has a heavy v-shape. I don't really care which one has a more "fun" sound. I want detail. The k240 is actually a dark headphone... Ask almost anyone. You want bright? Go try a Grado. You won't find it with k240's... Overbloated? Man, now I think you're exaggerating a little. A 4db difference across the spectrum is nothing. A human ear can't even detect a difference of 2db. Bloated is Sony XB's and v-moda lp's. No matter what you're opinion, the k240 is an analytical and neutral headphone.
Analytical? Yes. Neutral, I disagree except for the mids. Also the 40x is nothing like the 50x. The 50x is very v shaped. The whole point of the 40x was to flatten the FR out from the 50x, and that's exactly what it does. I just find the treble on the aggressive side for the 240 and a little grainy but I have to say after I was listening for a while your ear doesn't find it so aggressive anymore. But I get all the bass that I'm missing on the 240 on the 40x with less grain and the same high frequency extension of the 240 without aggressiveness. The only thing you lose on the 40x is the soundstage but that doesn't matter to me much since the music I listen to isn't always recorded in higher end studios. Okay bloated was a little strong, but the 240 has a slightly idk woody character to the mids? If you want to define bloated as an XB500 then yeah I understand that the 240 is nowhere near that. Of course the best source I have for the 240 is my Xonar DG still and not a proper Fiio foe example so I'm probably missing at least something. But for me at least the 40x solves all the sound sig issues I had with the 240 and to me is much more true to the source track. The 240 sound nice but are too colored for my personal taste that's all. Give the 50x, 240, 40x, and reference track all a listen on Sonic Sense. Their recordings of these headphones exactly show what they all sound like in person in terms of sound sig. The 40x is easily the closest sounding to the source track of these 3.
post #123 of 257
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Analytical? Yes. Neutral, I disagree except for the mids. Also the 40x is nothing like the 50x. The 50x is very v shaped. The whole point of the 40x was to flatten the FR out from the 50x, and that's exactly what it does. I just find the treble on the aggressive side for the 240 and a little grainy but I have to say after I was listening for a while your ear doesn't find it so aggressive anymore. But I get all the bass that I'm missing on the 240 on the 40x with less grain and the same high frequency extension of the 240 without aggressiveness. The only thing you lose on the 40x is the soundstage but that doesn't matter to me much since the music I listen to isn't always recorded in higher end studios. Okay bloated was a little strong, but the 240 has a slightly idk woody character to the mids? If you want to define bloated as an XB500 then yeah I understand that the 240 is nowhere near that. Of course the best source I have for the 240 is my Xonar DG still and not a proper Fiio foe example so I'm probably missing at least something. But for me at least the 40x solves all the sound sig issues I had with the 240 and to me is much more true to the source track. The 240 sound nice but are too colored for my personal taste that's all. Give the 50x, 240, 40x, and reference track all a listen on Sonic Sense. Their recordings of these headphones exactly show what they all sound like in person in terms of sound sig. The 40x is easily the closest sounding to the source track of these 3.


The problem with Sonic Sense is that it's not exactly how they sound in person, it can give a general idea but not always. I've heard enough of the headphones on the list to be aware of this. The amplification as well as the DAC can change the sound of any said headphone a decent amount, sometimes a lot, especially the more system sensitive headphones. The K240 doesn't shine unless it's on a system with good synergy. Honestly it's not that great of a sub-$100 headphone unless you are willing to amp it. To me the K240 is one of the best sub-$100 headphones to amplify. Without amplification there are better options out there.


Edited by kman1211 - 6/25/14 at 12:47pm
post #124 of 257
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The problem with Sonic Sense is that it's not exactly how they sound in person, it can give a general idea but not always. I've heard enough of the headphones on the list to be aware of this. The amplification as well as the DAC can change the sound of any said headphone a decent amount, sometimes a lot, especially the more system sensitive headphones. The K240 doesn't shine unless it's on a system with good synergy. Honestly it's not that great of a sub-$100 headphone unless you are willing to amp it. To me the K240 is one of the best sub-$100 headphones to amplify. Without amplification there are better options out there.
This is probably the case. The closed Audio-Technicas don't really need amplification unlike the 240. I haven't managed to try it with an amp yet save for my receiver where it made the upper bass boost even more severe and less desirable. The Audio-Technicas on their recordings at least sound exactly like they do in person. The point of that site is to compare the reference track to the recording and you can hear any coloration that way.
post #125 of 257
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This is probably the case. The closed Audio-Technicas don't really need amplification unlike the 240. I haven't managed to try it with an amp yet save for my receiver where it made the upper bass boost even more severe and less desirable. The Audio-Technicas on their recordings at least sound exactly like they do in person. The point of that site is to compare the reference track to the recording and you can hear any coloration that way.

True, they are better for those not willing to deal with amplification. I personally like messing with amps and dacs to see how the sound changes. Recievers are often poor matches with headphones in my experience, it often makes them sound worse. Some do well with headphones but many don't. True, it helps you figure out their coloration. What it fails to show is the headphones imaging, soundstage, depth, transparency, etc. a lot of times. I also am aware the K240 is a bit colored sounding, but I stopped caring  all that much about coloration(as long as it's not colored in a way I dislike) and neutrality but rather about overall sound quality, refinement, transparency, texture, smoothness, naturality, and musicality. If I am in the mood for neutral, that's what my K612 is for. The most natural and realistic sounding headphone I have ever heard is often considered colored. There is debate on what is neutral on headphones anyways. The hobby of audio is very subjective and there is so many different opinions. For example I personally believe tube amplification is more accurate than solid state amplification on a whole, there is evidence for and against my opinion, I just go by my personal experience and what my ears tell me. I haven't heard the M40X so I don't know how they sound, they could very well be better to me than the K240, I've only heard the M50.

post #126 of 257
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post


the k240's didn't measure as boomy... They measured in the middle of boomy and thin. Right in the sweet spot.. And the reason for the perfect response isn't a flat line is because of acoustics with our heads, our ears perception of sound, etc.

Well, you learn something new every day.

 

Still, my love of flat line responses is undying.

post #127 of 257
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post

True, they are better for those not willing to deal with amplification. I personally like messing with amps and dacs to see how the sound changes. Recievers are often poor matches with headphones in my experience, it often makes them sound worse. Some do well with headphones but many don't. True, it helps you figure out their coloration. What it fails to show is the headphones imaging, soundstage, depth, transparency, etc. a lot of times. I also am aware the K240 is a bit colored sounding, but I stopped caring  all that much about coloration(as long as it's not colored in a way I dislike) and neutrality but rather about overall sound quality, refinement, transparency, texture, smoothness, naturality, and musicality. If I am in the mood for neutral, that's what my K612 is for. The most natural and realistic sounding headphone I have ever heard is often considered colored. There is debate on what is neutral on headphones anyways. The hobby of audio is very subjective and there is so many different opinions. For example I personally believe tube amplification is more accurate than solid state amplification on a whole, there is evidence for and against my opinion, I just go by my personal experience and what my ears tell me. I haven't heard the M40X so I don't know how they sound, they could very well be better to me than the K240, I've only heard the M50.
Yeah I made sure to say that you get a sense of the FR coloration but they can't capture things like soundstage. Very accurate recordings though, they match my own experiences with those cans save for things like comfort and soundstage and amp changes.
post #128 of 257

about the 240s

I am waiting for mine to arrive + the fiio e07.

I heard that for them to sound at their best they need to play for some hours.

My question is, should i let them burn in connected to the fiio e07 or without it ?

post #129 of 257
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Originally Posted by SoniMax View Post

about the 240s
I am waiting for mine to arrive + the fiio e07.
I heard that for them to sound at their best they need to play for some hours.
My question is, should i let them burn in connected to the fiio e07 or without it ?
burn them in with the e07, and make sure its at a loud volume... Don't make it too loud though. Don't want to damage the driver!
post #130 of 257

Has anyone tried the 240s with the Beyer EDT990V pads ?
I will get those pads tomorrow , will post impressions here ! 

post #131 of 257
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Has anyone tried the 240s with the Beyer EDT990V pads ?
I will get those pads tomorrow , will post impressions here ! 


Are those velour pads? Do they fit? If both are yes, I might get a pair (because velour is the master rare).

post #132 of 257
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Originally Posted by MrTechAgent View Post

Has anyone tried the 240s with the Beyer EDT990V pads ?

I will get those pads tomorrow , will post impressions here ! 

I have when I had both the K240 and DT 990. it makes them sound leaner and brighter from my experience.
post #133 of 257
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I have when I had both the K240 and DT 990. it makes them sound leaner and brighter from my experience.

 

Hmm , those perforations are doing that , maybe I'll put some electrical tape (Like everybody) and see if that makes them less lean and more bodied 

My main issue was comfort , they really get uncomfortable after 30 mins ....at first they are quite comfortable but after that time they get itchy whereas with the 702 I think is the opposite , they get quite transparent after some time and become really comfy

post #134 of 257
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Are those velour pads? Do they fit? If both are yes, I might get a pair (because velour is the master rare).

 

Yes and yes :) 

post #135 of 257
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Originally Posted by MrTechAgent View Post
 

 

Hmm , those perforations are doing that , maybe I'll put some electrical tape (Like everybody) and see if that makes them less lean and more bodied 

My main issue was comfort , they really get uncomfortable after 30 mins ....at first they are quite comfortable but after that time they get itchy whereas with the 702 I think is the opposite , they get quite transparent after some time and become really comfy


I think it is, I should of done that, it was insanely comfortable with the DT 880/990 pads. I may be getting my K240 MKII backs quite soon. That's why I wear the pleathers to avoid itchiness and the openings are bigger, once the pleathers break in they are much more comfy than the velours imo. The K712 pads are wonderful, easily the most comfy headphone I own.

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