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post #46 of 205
10/9/12 at 4:44pm

that wood is made of coco lumber... you know, the one that disintigrates overtime like grado pads

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post #47 of 205
10/10/12 at 12:30pm
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that wood is made of coco lumber... you know, the one that disintigrates overtime like grado pads

So far, mine haven't disintegrated, cocobolo.

 

 

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post #48 of 205
10/10/12 at 5:15pm

no no no i think thats a different one. or maybe it applies only here in our country? we have these "coco lumber stores" here that when used in building a house or any furniture that is made from it, either it gets swarmed by termites or it just crumbles at certain point of time no matter how it was polished, varnished, or taken care of properly xD

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post #49 of 205
10/10/12 at 6:05pm
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no no no i think thats a different one. or maybe it applies only here in our country? we have these "coco lumber stores" here that when used in building a house or any furniture that is made from it, either it gets swarmed by termites or it just crumbles at certain point of time no matter how it was polished, varnished, or taken care of properly xD

O.K., so how long are headphone pads supposed to last in your estimation?

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post #50 of 205
10/10/12 at 8:09pm
According to their FB page they'll be a the CanJam, so there's likely to be more information after the weekend.
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post #51 of 205
10/12/12 at 11:30am
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O.K., so how long are headphone pads supposed to last in your estimation?

I think you're talking past each other. By "Coco Lumber" I think he means Coconut Timber, and you're talking about Cocobolo, which is an exotic hardwood.
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post #52 of 205
10/12/12 at 1:38pm
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O.K., so how long are headphone pads supposed to last in your estimation?

I think you're talking past each other. By "Coco Lumber" I think he means Coconut Timber, and you're talking about Cocobolo, which is an exotic hardwood.

I know.  Should have put a smiley face next to cocobolo.

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post #53 of 205
10/12/12 at 1:51pm

Okay, so these are 5K (thanks for the scoop anetdote)

 

This is not Stax or Sennheiser charging 5K after years of experience and major expenditure (not to mention bankruptcy in Stax's case) in the headphone arena as the pre-eminent headphones.

 

This is not Final Audio coming out with a ridiculous number and then selling 1 or 2 units.

 

This is a cable company, that, like many cable companies is well known for their markups that border on stickups trying to horn in on a "hot" high end headphone market which has just started to really breakout into mainstream audiophile publications and consciousness.  It's bad for the consumers, bad for the perception of said consumers, and bad for the hobby as a whole.

 

I'd like to do an experiment here, but it would require the passive participation of everyone on the forum:

 

Don't buy these.  Just don't.  Let's see what a concerted effort by a large forum with untested influence can do to effect a greedy outsider company that thinks it can take advantage of us.  Let's try to return a modicum of sanity to an increasingly spend-happy hobby that says more is better and new is better instead of rewarding innovation and R&D.  It's not just for us - it's for our children.  Our metaphorical children in the hobby, who may find themselves joining in 5, 10 years from now with 2K headphones being entry level high end with compromises and 10K not being out of the ordinary for "true high end" as the market sustains it.

 

Oh sure, no matter what there will be some online publications with little to no headphone experience that come out with overwhelmingly positive reviews.  But don't let that sway you.  If no one on this board buys a pair of these, it would set a precedent, an important one in a market that in many ways is still in its adolescence.  

 

It's not like this is unbearably hard.  Just don't send these guys $5,000.  

 

Do it for the kids.


Edited by Radio_head - 10/12/12 at 1:57pm
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post #54 of 205
10/12/12 at 1:59pm

5k? (*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))

 

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Totally agreed.

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post #55 of 205
10/12/12 at 2:10pm

The ABYSS AB-1266 Reference Headphone is being demonstrated at RMAF 2012 in Marriott Tower - Level 8 ~ 8000 along with Cavali

 

 http://audiofest.net/2012/exhibitors_profile.php?gbID=633&Sid=2b4d926aebd7e44b8c3b560e9b460010

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post #56 of 205
10/12/12 at 2:38pm

$5k for a first try headphone from a cable company.

 

wow devil_face.gif

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post #57 of 205
10/12/12 at 2:58pm

Its being demonstrated with the Da Vinci NOS DAC - which costs a mere $20000!

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$5k for a first try headphone from a cable company.

 

wow devil_face.gif

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post #58 of 205
10/12/12 at 3:06pm

That market has already been a lost cause for years.  The headphone market is less sullied and it would be great to keep it that way.

 

Interesting thing about the light harmonic, it was originally 10K when they showed it off.  They raised the price twice, to 14K and now upwards of that - both times just happened to be immediately after glowing reviews were published.  Weiss did something similar, as did Antelope.  The high-end audiophile market is greasier than the fast food market.

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post #59 of 205
10/12/12 at 3:48pm
It's not a *bad* headphone, maybe competitive in the 300$ range. Though I'd still rather get an he400 from that segment. Detail wise it's outdone by the mad dogs and the he500, slam-wise it's outdone by the lcd3, soundstage-wise it's second to the yamaha yhd2 (despite being a very open design with deep pads). On the good side, it is very solidly built and comes with some seriously heavy duty cables. The abyss is also fairly even, despite having a bit of a sharp accent on the percussion that's reminiscent of the he6. Also like the he6 it has a very low sensitivity.

The people promoting the abyss are very nice, straightforward and ambitious. But the price is a joke.
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post #60 of 205
10/12/12 at 4:21pm

Did listen to the Da Vinci DAC?

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It's not a *bad* headphone, maybe competitive in the 300$ range. Though I'd still rather get an he400 from that segment. Detail wise it's outdone by the mad dogs and the he500, slam-wise it's outdone by the lcd3, soundstage-wise it's second to the yamaha yhd2 (despite being a very open design with deep pads). On the good side, it is very solidly built and comes with some seriously heavy duty cables. The abyss is also fairly even, despite having a bit of a sharp accent on the percussion that's reminiscent of the he6. Also like the he6 it has a very low sensitivity.
The people promoting the abyss are very nice, straightforward and ambitious. But the price is a joke.
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