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I'm not really sure of the benefits brought on by the latest update.... Well besides my screen no longer glitching. But it all shows up in red now. I kinda like the blue lettering :P.
 


If you like the blue lettering you can use the firmware intended for models with the 13xxx serial number or the N3 firmware. But this will cause the messed up grey screens after the start.

I think grey screen is the reason for the two N1 firmwares.

 

I think I'm going back to the official N1 firmware on my N1. Battery time seems to be worse with N3 firmware and the extreme possible loudness levels may damage the player (although I only use volumes between 8-12 with my BA200).

 

It was said that you can't install the drivers on Win 8. It works if you set "Disable Driver signature Enforcement" in the startup settings. Win 8 may crash after you close the HiSoundTool.


Edited by Pyrrho - 3/26/13 at 6:39am
post #962 of 1082
Yes indeed the customer service rep on the Hisound forums warns against installing N3 firmware on N1 because the higher gain setting of the N3 can lead to burnout if applied to the N1.
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And it's a shame that N1's sound quality is limited by the software. HSA V2.0 sounds better than HSA V1.0.

 

I just "downgraded" to the official N1 firmware and the difference is obvious to me.
 

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HiFi should still sound relatively great. I don't think there's a real qualitative difference between HSA and HiFi.


Edited by goodvibes - 3/26/13 at 7:20am
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Treble is a little recessed in HSA 1.0 compared to HSA 2.0. 1.0 has a warmer overall sound.

 

I also noticed that N3 firmware or N1 firmware for HPC13XXX has reversed channels when it's on N1 HPC12XXX.

 

Microsd noise could be a little lower with N3 firmware, but I'm not sure about that...

 

I hope they'll release a firmware to unleash N1's potential, but they may want to justify the price difference (although there shouldn't be much difference between the players themselves because N3 has much better headphones).


Edited by Pyrrho - 3/26/13 at 8:30am
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Anyone else tried their N3 with DT1350,T50P or ES7 ? I still find the N3 too quiet? If its only me then there could be a problem with my player.
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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

HiFi should still sound relatively great. I don't think there's a real qualitative difference between HSA and HiFi.


I sure do feel there is a noticeable difference. Hifi is more flat as you say. But at the same time the sound staging is more so congested and not as airy sounding. It's more of a closed in presentation and a bit duller. To each his own :).

post #968 of 1082

I try update my N1 using N3 latest firmware ..

Just want to compare between HSA.1 and HSA.2 .. :d

 

imo HSA.2 has better soundstage. little bit more musical .. and maybe louder .. ksc75smile.gif

 

"Description: N3 built-in micro-amp module potential, will further enhance the thrust.
N1 and N3 materials and parts are different, different driver, screen burn or bricked chaos brush. Brush chaos caused by the failure does not belong to the maintenance range. Hereby declare!
"

--official hisound statement .. google translated...

 

... after I try firmware upgraded using N3 Firmware.. , am goback to N1 FW ..  , afraid something unwanted happen to my newly bough player  k701smile.gif

post #969 of 1082
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


I sure do feel there is a noticeable difference. Hifi is more flat as you say. But at the same time the sound staging is more so congested and not as airy sounding. It's more of a closed in presentation and a bit duller. To each his own :).

Of course there is a difference. I never said otherwise. I said qualitative, not quantitative for a reason. Both are good, relatively neutral and will depend on matching device and preference. 


Edited by goodvibes - 3/27/13 at 12:57am
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My player started to have the "screen noise" since yesterday. It's louder than the old microsd noise, but it's more silent after the screen turned off.

I tried different firmwares, but that didnt't change anything.
 

And there's a new weird noise that sounds like old analog modems while a song loads from microsd.

 

EDIT: I think the new weird noises were introduced by low battery, they're gone now.

 

 

With the TDK BA200 the noises are much lower than with Wooduo 2, but I can detect a very slight difference when the screen turns on/off. Maybe because of its high sensitivity.

The BA200's impedance stabilizer seems to work. It's very hard to detect any hiss while playing from the internal memory at volume 0.


Edited by Pyrrho - 3/27/13 at 7:09am
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My player started to have the "screen noise" since yesterday. It's louder than the old microsd noise, but it's more silent after the screen turned off.

I tried different firmwares, but that didnt't change anything.
 

And there's a new weird noise that sounds like old analog modems while a song loads from microsd.

I thought these noises are not a new problem. Been affecting N1 and N3 especially with micro-SD cards loaded since initial firmware release.

post #972 of 1082

The only unwanted sound I have heard is a whirring sound in between songs, sounds identical to a CD transport

changing track to me.

post #973 of 1082
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

I'm not really sure of the benefits brought on by the latest update.... Well besides my screen no longer glitching. But it all shows up in red now. I kinda like the blue lettering :P.
 

when you say glitching what do you mean? was it that when you turned the screen didnt work until the backlight cut out and come back one? thats what mine does now and it has blue lettering...

post #974 of 1082
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when you say glitching what do you mean? was it that when you turned the screen didnt work until the backlight cut out and come back one? thats what mine does now and it has blue lettering...


Do you have a N1 with serial number HPC12XXXXXXXX (the ones from the price promotion and some early models from eBay)?

They will produce the glitch at startup if you have a firmware with blue lettering.

 

The newest N1 firmware has two versions: HPC12 -> red lettering, HPC13 -> blue lettering.

 

I hope there aren't more important differences between HPC12 and HPC13...


Edited by Pyrrho - 3/28/13 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by big-man View Post

when you say glitching what do you mean? was it that when you turned the screen didnt work until the backlight cut out and come back one? thats what mine does now and it has blue lettering...


Yep. That is the issue I had before. Now on the updated firmware (depending on your S/N listed on the back you choose a specific firmware to use) it's back to normal like it was on the original firmware with red lettering.

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