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post #196 of 1082

Hiss problems ill bet, sigmatel 3370 again?

 

10 hours playback, lol?  is that flac playback? and at what percentage volume.

 

You give battery life on the studio when set to 3/31 even though in reality you have to use between 17-23/30.

post #197 of 1082
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I generally get really good battery life with the Studio. I also noticed if you leave it on like a marathon it will drain faster (around 27 hours of playback time on continuous playback and no breaks inbetween). Using it in 5+ hour intervals will yield you 50+ hours of playback time (this is with lossless). I normally never listen to the player more than 5 hours at a time anyways so I see no reason to see this as an issue. Regarding volume, I generally listen at around volume 6 because the player is very powerful and resolving. I see no need at listening at such dangerous volume levels. I value my hearing and know for a fact that listening at such high volumes will lead to damaged hearing (at least for me). Now with hard to drive cans I do see the need to maybe turn it up a bit more. On my Denon 5000s on the older Studio V I turned it up to around 15 to 16. The newer unit seems to have slightly more power than before as I use to listen at around 8 or 9 on my IEMs and am now listening at around 5 to 6. With the RE262 (150 ohms) I listened at around volume 12.
 


Edited by lee730 - 11/1/12 at 6:36pm
post #198 of 1082

wow are you serious?  with my 262's i was nearing in on 30,   5-6 on any of my phones would be completely unusable.  Re-272 are very low and they were around 20 at comfortable listening. 

post #199 of 1082
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I'm dead serious. At least at the volume levels I listen to the RE262 were already getting quite loud at volume 12 to my ears. I actually didn't even like the pairing on the Studio V as it would get fatiguing and the vocals were way to upfront due to both the RE262 and the Studio V also being mid-centric. Just not a good pairing IMO. My Sennheisers are by far the most sensitive. With the 334 just being slightly more sensitive than the IE80. So I stick around volume 5 and if I intend on listening for a long session I'll turn it down even more as I go. This is because I get tired on long listening sessions since the Studio Vs sound is very rich and energetic. But for low volume listening I have to admit the Studio V is by far one of the best DAPs around for detail-extraction, imaging & sound staging. If they can just manage to get rid of that last bit of hiss and work on the UI it would be my perfect portable DAP. It would for sure help to preserve my hearing as I'm more inclined to turn the volume down than up. Then again I'm quite different from a lot of people who tend to turn the volume up the longer they listen. I on the other hand will actually start at a reasonable volume level (may even have some fun for a couple songs) then gradually turn the volume down.
 


Edited by lee730 - 11/2/12 at 1:32am
post #200 of 1082

Anyway we can throw mud back and forth but id rather we dont.

 

what im looking for is an honest answer on there battery life claims.  If thats 10h (not on flac and at an artificial listening level) then blow me that is just terrible.  

 

 

If you want something interesting then I urge anyone considering them to check why Hisound got banned from 2 of the biggest tech sites in China.  Erji.net and imp3.net

post #201 of 1082
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I'm curious what is the C3s battery life with lossless and lossy? Also the charge times? I'd think 10 hours shouldn't be very far-fetched as my Rocoo BA lasts around 12 hours on each charge with purely lossless...

 

Also I'm not slinging mud just stating what I hear and my experiences with the product. It's expected that not everyone will agree or have the same experiences.
 


Edited by lee730 - 11/1/12 at 6:55pm
post #202 of 1082

Reports from myself and h20 among others on the c3 has the battery at a good way over 15 hours im was i got about 18 on one go.  Think from h20 it was about the same, we were both shocked that it seems to just go and go.

 

If your interested is some of the amazingly high quality Dac that your Studio has check here 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sigmatel+3770+mp3&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvnsfd&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qyiTUImXNcnH0QXg_oGoCw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=959&bih=534

 

Some really nice stuff,  well heres the real kicker!  You know what else uses the same parts?  Dac and amp (and still waiting for conformation on memory being corsair as well) the cube c30!  it uses almost the exact same firmware too except the c30's has less bugs, more feature, less hiss (class A amp) and has the added advantage of official BBE!  

 

The only thing discernably different on these players is the battery (as I mentioned before they thump a whopping big battery in the studio) and the casing.

 

 

Almost exact same parts, 

 

One costs $30 and the other $450+   (shipped)

 

 

 

Parts/price aside and wholeheartedly the c30 sounds better and has the benefit of BBE.

 

If people can no longer see what a con this is I genuinely feel sorry for them.  There is a reason that for so long they defaced the amps and dacs and this is simply it.

post #203 of 1082
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So you feel a $30.00 DAP sounds better than a $400 one? I wonder if I should order this player to see if your statements are true or not. I won't be very pleasant if I hear otherwise however. Never knew a $30.00 DAP could be close behind my DX100. wink_face.gif
 

post #204 of 1082

Well to be honest i dont think its much hidden that my value of your opinion on matters of sq is that high anyway.  I believe in a lot of cases you embelish the facts so to speak and overhype just a tad.

 

But why do you think that a $30 dap cant sound better than a 400 dollar one?  

 

On a serious note, given that they are the same internals (and that cube managed to bring in BBE engineers to help with the tuning)

 

Is it because its got a metal case and a bigger battery?  

 

 

And FYI the c30 was very highly regarded.

post #205 of 1082
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Originally Posted by stozzer123 View Post

Well to be honest i dont think its much hidden that my value of your opinion on matters of sq is that high anyway.  I believe in a lot of cases you embelish the facts so to speak and overhype just a tad.

 

But why do you think that a $30 dap cant sound better than a 400 dollar one?  

 

On a serious note, given that they are the same internals (and that cube managed to bring in BBE engineers to help with the tuning)

 

Is it because its got a metal case and a bigger battery?  

 

 

And FYI the c30 was very highly regarded.

 

I could say the same about you & your rather controversial statements. Of course "the truth shall set you free" and as more people confirm the discrepancies in your comments so will your credibility diminish on this forum. I call it as I see it or rather "hear it". I don't take pride in misleading people or even over-hyping a product. I just state my opinion. It's your choice to take it with a grain-of-salt or not. Just as in your comments I'll take them with a grain-of-salt myself. smile.gif

post #206 of 1082

Fancy answering the questions in the post above your little tiff?

post #207 of 1082
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

So you feel a $30.00 DAP sounds better than a $400 one? I wonder if I should order this player to see if your statements are true or not. I won't be very pleasant if I hear otherwise however. Never knew a $30.00 DAP could be close behind my DX100. wink_face.gif
 

Actually re-reading this comment it might just be the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Spoken like a true sheep. 

 

The fact that all the same parts are being used yet you think there is some magic treatment being done to it to make the sound incredible flat out shows how wrong you are  (especially considering one had direct bbe involvement, but hey im sure hisounds diy operation was able to trump the bbe resources).  Let alone increasing the price from $30 to $450 while giving less software options, not tuned with bbe engineers, and given a large battery and metal case.  

 

Honestly how can you not look at those FACTS and just accept you have been ripped?  Is this really really that far fetched.

 

No need to get mad at the person that brings the news.

 

Again I urge you to research why they were banned from erji.net and imp3.net

 

Also heres a little bit of information for you.  

 

Did you know cube oem'd the rocoo A which was a c30.  Is it really that far fetched that they are using the same tech from it  in the studio (the exact same UI in the studio as in the c30 but with less features).

 

I have also been contacted by someone who suspects something similar going on with the Nova and another player.


Edited by stozzer123 - 11/1/12 at 8:02pm
post #208 of 1082
It is true. Colorfly C3 is grabbing me around 15 - 18 hours using FLAC, with an average volume of 22/40, the little tucker just keeps on going, I'm using it roughly 3 - 4 hours a day (mostly at night), I only need to charge it every fourth day and that's usually with one bar showing not dropping below 25%. I mentioned earlier that Nova's run time is disappointing, whether there quoted time is running FLAC will be a concern.

Apart from that, enjoy your little feud you both have going here.
post #209 of 1082

Wow, things are heating up in here. Anyway, 10 hours really doesn't sound much, especially if its not with lossless music and is achieved at low volume level. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Oh, and by the way the C3 lasts 15 hours with ease and that's with lossless at maximum volume level.

post #210 of 1082
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Wow, things are heating up in here. Anyway, 10 hours really doesn't sound much, especially if its not with lossless music and is achieved at low volume level. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Oh, and by the way the C3 lasts 15 hours with ease and that's with lossless at maximum volume level.

 

That sounds pretty impressive. Is there any information on its output power? I've been trying to find some info on that with no luck.

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