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Poll Results: Would you buy a Pandora to use as your portable player?

 
  • 31% (24)
    Yes
  • 68% (52)
    No
76 Total Votes  
post #166 of 364
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

Because phones have ****ty DACs and weak amps.

 

Yeah, sometimes things get delayed. V-MODA M100, anyone?

Yeah, I got a PSP too. I'll never grow out of gaming.

The Pandora has a better DAC than the mini.

The asking price is definitely correct considering that this thing is a FULL computer crammed into a pocket-sized package. It costs about as much as a laptop, because it IS a laptop. With a touch screen. And full gaming controls. And phenomenal sound. And ridiculously good battery life. That fits in your pocket.

It can outperform EVERY smartphone in terms of sound quality. 

 

If Voodoo sound is software it is impossible for the sound quality to be improved. Software can't magically make a DAC not suck, or give an amp more power.

 

I'm not a fanboy by any means, I don't even own it yet. And you can do thousands of things on this device that's impossible on that locked-down hunk of garbage Apple refers to as iOS.

 

You don't own the Open Pandora, are making a blanket statement saying all phones have bad DAC and weak amps?

Do you have data to backup how much better the sound quality is? 

Do you know how Voodoo sound works? I'll give you a clue; if you ever used a volume control... that is how software will "magically make a DAC not suck or give an amp more power".

What thousands of things can you do that I can't do on my iPhone 4?

 

I don't think I need to bring up your age... but when I was 13 or even 19 I wasn't spending hundreds of my parents money for something so ludicrous. Kids these days...


Edited by Lateness - 11/2/12 at 11:42am
post #167 of 364
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

This has been established.

 

You don't need to own a Stax SR009 to go around shouting it's the absolute king of all headphones.

No, but it helps if you've actually listened to them, if you care at all about looking like a retard.  It also helps if you don't go around frothing about how everything else sucks and how what people think suck about your pet device is missing the point or automatically invalid.

 

They say any attention is good attention for a product, but I think your net effect has been to convince a bunch of people to hate it for what it's not rather than help them see the beauty of what it is, shortcomings aside.

 

Good going, dou-... dude.


Edited by Dragunov-21 - 11/2/12 at 2:11am
post #168 of 364
Wow,...this is a ***FAIL***fest. Unsubscribed,...
post #169 of 364

I love that the open pandora has nice audio hardware..   It would have been an incredible game changer a few years ago.

 

However as a gaming machine it is an utter failure.  The Chinese have been producing gaming tablets with controls for some time now.  They cost less than $125, have capacitive 5-7 inch screens, built in controls, hdmi output, android 2.3-4.0, higher capacity batteries, and much better processors/gpu combinations.   I was a fan of the Open Pandora, but it's no longer justifiable.  The $375 price difference can buy a superior portable audio source, or a compatible usb dac.

 

Here are two options from china,

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JXD-S5110-Game-Console-Android-4-0-512MB-4GB-5-Inch-Tablet-PC-HDMI-Camera-Black-/150881205315?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2321387c43

 
 
The Pandora is a cool niche piece for a hobbyist. But that is all it ever will be now. 
 
Edit:  I do know that the battery life and capacity aren't the same thing, but still the rest of the post applies.

Edited by cheapfi - 11/2/12 at 1:33pm
post #170 of 364
Thread Starter 

Like I said, I don't give a **** about this anymore. I'm getting one for myself for reasons clearly stated. I figured others would think the same. Guess I was wrong.

 

Threadcap engage.

post #171 of 364
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

Guess I was wrong.

On an epic scale :D

post #172 of 364
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

Guess I was wrong.

On an epic scale :D

Drop it. No need to be an ass.

post #173 of 364

Oh god. I just came across this thread again.

 

Seems like nothing has changed.

post #174 of 364

I asked if the device has this feature (3/4G)

 

It doesn't, but can plug an inexpensive cell modem into the USB port.

The disadvantages of this are obvious, but there are some advantages too:

- likely to work with future cell modem tech

- can use the modem in other laptops, it's somewhat easier than switching a sim

- it's not a phone, we have no phone software (except VOIP).

  most people will have a separate phone with internet, and would rather

  tether their Pandora to it than pay for a second cell subscription

 

I will mention, there have been some problems with the on-board wifi: on many devices it performs poorly achieving only about 200KB/sec.

We are not sure what is the cause of this, some people have had success with mainpulating the internal antenna, and software adjustments.

It's difficult and risky to open the device, it can be broken, so antenna fiddling is for hardware geeks only.

Others are using a small USB wifi plug, for a good data rate, and this is the easiest solution.

 

So, you can see this device is not perfect yet, not very surprising as it was the first project from an inexperienced team.

I don't recommend Pandora for people who are only interested in portable audio, although the audio is excellent.

But for hacker, gamer, music lovers, it's fairly much an irresistible combination.

 

- hackers will appreciate the open development, real linux system / tools, and keyboard

- gamers will appreciate the excellent controls, wide range of emulators, and homebrew games

- music lovers will appreciate the hifi audio, output power, full codec set, SD media, player software

 

As for haters, who cares what they think!  We must accept that weak people, who cannot create anything good themselves, will diss what others have created rather than respectfully criticising it!


Edited by sswam - 11/4/12 at 3:28pm
post #175 of 364
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Oh god. I just came across this thread again.

 

There is no point for anyone to post in this topic unless you're somehow interested or curious about this device.

 

I wouldn't post in an iPhone or iPod thread, because I have no interest in buying such a device.

I can appreciate and respect their technology, but certain decisions by Apple make it an unattractive system for me.

I'm also not much interested in Android, Sony or Cowan devices, among others.

 

But, I don't feel the need to post in every thread, explaining why everything except Pandora sucks.

If this device doesn't suit you, please point out some weakness or give some well-meant critique.

But don't go all scathing and tell me "this is junk", when you've never even seen or touched one.  I already know otherwise.


Edited by sswam - 11/4/12 at 3:41pm
post #176 of 364

Mate this is a forum where people discuss stuff, dont come one here and lay your ground rules of how to participate in said discussion like you word is gospel.

People dont need to own one to establish the opinion the concept is junk, otherwise it wouldn't be a 2 bit operation that is far past its date of relevance.  As you will say some people might find this interesting (right up until they tire of the novelty and massive drawbacks after a month and just end up using a computer, netbook, phone, tablet etc), thats fine but anyone should be welcome with any opinion they have.

post #177 of 364

Oh, I dunno... just because it came off as a bit entitled doesn't mean he's not right.  Doesn't HF have rules about derailing?

 

I'd agree that negative criticism has its place, but sh*tposting doesn't.

post #178 of 364
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Originally Posted by sswam View Post

 

There is no point for anyone to post in this topic unless you're somehow interested or curious about this device.

 

I wouldn't post in an iPhone or iPod thread, because I have no interest in buying such a device.

I can appreciate and respect their technology, but certain decisions by Apple make it an unattractive system for me.

I'm also not much interested in Android, Sony or Cowan devices, among others.

 

But, I don't feel the need to post in every thread, explaining why everything except Pandora sucks.

If this device doesn't suit you, please point out some weakness or give some well-meant critique.

But don't go all scathing and tell me "this is junk", when you've never even seen or touched one.  I already know otherwise.

 

Some information................

 

1) Thread title:

The Open Pandora: An ultimate portable player?

2) Thread location:

Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Source Gear

 

3) Thread structure:

 

Poll Results: Would you buy a Pandora to use as your portable player? (Yes/No)

 

 

 

.............and as it happens..................

I am interested in the concept of an ultimate portable player.

I am interested in portable source gear.

I am allowed to give my opinion on whether or not I would buy the pandora.

 

 

I think you'd find, that by the rules of headfi (and any other forum) this makes me eligible to post in this thread. If you disagree then please do some research about headfi and how it works. No offence, but being a member for a month and only having posted 9 times (coincidentally all on this thread only) does not give you admin rights above the current administrators.

You don't come onto the biggest audiophile forum, claim that this unheard of player has amongst the best portable sound quality, offer not even a single piece of evidence (review/measurement/testing/sound description) and not expect to get some criticism. That's not how it works mate. 


Edited by CantScareMe - 11/5/12 at 3:01pm
post #179 of 364

^ Well said. X2.

I also noticed the profile of sswam, which says "joined September 2012" and all his 9 posts so far are in this thread telling how good Pandora is.


Edited by zzffnn - 11/5/12 at 3:06pm
post #180 of 364
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Originally Posted by zzffnn View Post

^ Well said. X2.
I also noticed the profile of sswam, which says "joined September 2012" and all his 9 posts so far are in this thread telling how good Pandora is.
+3. You guys are correct, as much as it pains me to admit it. tongue.gif this is an open forum and all are 100% free to post comments/opinions in any thread - especially considering the conditions of the original post. So, as they say: FIRE WHEN READY!!!
Edited by tds101 - 11/5/12 at 3:24pm
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