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Poll Results: Would you buy a Pandora to use as your portable player?

 
  • 31% (24)
    Yes
  • 68% (52)
    No
76 Total Votes  
post #121 of 364

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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 11:53pm
post #122 of 364
^ Exactly my point. Forget about those expensive SDXC, I don't care about hot swap. mSATA SSD is significantly cheaper and faster, while not a lot larger than SDXC. If I want true portability, I would rather use my Sansa Clip+ with a microSDXC card.

Since Pandora is already big in form factor, why not provide a slot for mSATA SSD? Alternatively, if cost is a concern, just use a PATA ZIF slot (like iPod Classic) to accept a 1.8" HDD (now $120 for 240GB). Additionally, what is the point of a fast CPU, if your actual speed is limited by the SDXC storage (in view of the fact that both mSATA SSD and ZIF HDD are a lot faster than SDXC)?
Edited by zzffnn - 10/18/12 at 6:31pm
post #123 of 364
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Actually, I think there is a native port of Rockbox for the Pandora, and even if there isn't you can use it via Android.

 

Yeah there is, I'm using it now.

 

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^ Then please make said Pandora 2 with a mSATA slot and a cheaper price. mSATA is a lot cheaper than SDXC.

 

The USB works okay.  I have several terabyte USB drives, and I can use them with the Pandora.

Would mSATA have an advantage over USB?  For me, I prefer USB, it is a common standard and more flexible.

 

The Pandora is unwieldly with an external HDD.  I could tie them together but would need bigger pockets!

I copy stuff to the SD media or RAM, rather than leaving the HDD plugged in.

 

The price will drop after the company recovers its losses.  It might take a while...!

 

I think the Pandora 2 will have an internal microsd, in addition to the external SD slots.

It probably won't be as large as 1TB, maybe 256GB could be done at that time.

post #124 of 364

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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 11:53pm
post #125 of 364
This is rediculous. Just have compatibility with SDXC,...that's all they need to do.

You guys have really gone in a amazingly unintuitive and useless direction in your selfish search for what you want. What a waste of the Pandora developers time,...you really don't know crap about what your requesting.
Edited by tds101 - 10/19/12 at 7:00am
post #126 of 364
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by nywytboy68 View Post

This is rediculous. Just have compatibility with SDXC,...that's all they need to do.

You guys have really gone in a amazingly unintuitive and useless direction in your selfish search for what you want. What a waste of the Pandora developers time,...you really don't know crap about what your requesting.

This. He's totally right.

post #127 of 364
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

This. He's totally right.
Hey, I may be a hard sell but I'm not a selfish azz. Really, these requests are totally off base when it comes to the ideals behind this project. I'd love to eventually see a small touchscreen version, but it'd have to be based on real usability. The same as this device is now. Real specs, real functionality, real users & developers working together. These others are wayyyyyyy off base.

I'm honestly sorry I somewhat started this debate,...this thing turned out to be quite good from what I've read. I'd love to be able to get it. But I just spent over $1,200 on my bike riding stuff - time to lay low before the Mrs burns me britches!!! tongue.gif
post #128 of 364
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by nywytboy68 View Post

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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

This. He's totally right.
Hey, I may be a hard sell but I'm not a selfish azz. Really, these requests are totally off base when it comes to the ideals behind this project. I'd love to eventually see a small touchscreen version, but it'd have to be based on real usability. The same as this device is now. Real specs, real functionality, real users & developers working together. These others are wayyyyyyy off base.

I'm honestly sorry I somewhat started this debate,...this thing turned out to be quite good from what I've read. I'd love to be able to get it. But I just spent over $1,200 on my bike riding stuff - time to lay low before the Mrs burns me britches!!! tongue.gif

Hah awesome XD

 

And I'm sorry for masking my intentions. The Pandora team just had a huge setback and the community is trying to help in any way possible. This was my idea for helping... and hopefully I've convinced a few to get a Pandora. Every unit counts.

 

The Pandora community always welcomes new members; I hope you'll join in the future, like I'm gonna.

post #129 of 364
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

Hah awesome XD

 

And I'm sorry for masking my intentions. The Pandora team just had a huge setback and the community is trying to help in any way possible. This was my idea for helping... and hopefully I've convinced a few to get a Pandora. Every unit counts.

 

The Pandora community always welcomes new members; I hope you'll join in the future, like I'm gonna.

 

People probably do not know that very few of these arm-processors have hard drive ports. If they have, then it is either the old ce-ata (the port you know from the iPod Video) or SATA. SATA, in most cases only available from the top of the line ARM-processors ... blablabla

 

2 x SDXC is good

post #130 of 364
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Originally Posted by RAFA View Post

People probably do not know that very few of these arm-processors have hard drive ports. If they have, then it is either the old ce-ata (the port you know from the iPod Video) or SATA. SATA, in most cases only available from the top of the line ARM-processors ... blablabla

 

2 x SDXC is good

Great little tidbit of information.

 

The Pandora was given an SoC that was top-of-the-line way back when. However, checking the info sheet from Ti shows that it supports neither CE-ATA or SATA. 

 

It does however support any USB device. There may be a few struggles here and there trying to get more atypical/unusual devices to work, but most will work plug-n-play, just like Windows. 

post #131 of 364
Thread Starter 

Keepin' it going.

post #132 of 364
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Originally Posted by FaeMinx View Post
I'm somewhat shocked by the passionate negativity directed at the Pandora...? By people who have never even tried one out??? Seriously?

 

When I first plugged in a pair of bog standard earbuds my jaw literally dropped open the sound was so surprisingly good.

Let me repeat that I'm not an audiophile, so I haven't had the fortune of experiencing much high-end audio equipment in my life... 

 

...

 

Just recently bought myself a pair of Creative WP-350 Bluetooth headphones (can't afford anthing more expensive).

And I can tell you that if the sound the Pandora produces through ordinary earbuds amazed me, the sound through my WP-350's is literally orgazmic. (for me anyway).

 

A few thoughts, which you (or anyone) can take or leave.

 

 - If you found "bog-standard earbuds" to be jaw-droppingly good, your opinion of SQ means very little in the context of what Head-Fi members are interested in.  No elitism, just fact.

 

 - There's been some negativity toward the product, sure, but most of that is toward its apparent useability as a dedicated DAP (not a pocket-PC, which is its intended design).  Most of the crap-talking has been in response to a fanboy who hadn't even seen or heard it opining as though it were fact and making statements he was in no position to make, not to mention talking nonsense about Samsung build quality and bumping the heck out of a topic with limited interest.

 

 - No-one's saying it's a **** product or idea, just that it is sure as hell not the incredible DAP the OP touted it as.  It is no competitive with other offerings in a lot of areas - Size, price, DAP-centric features, UI, auxillary functions (they're great, if you want every one of its specific offerings and nothing else, but most people don't).  As a Pocket-PC and private project, it's sweet.  As a DAP, it's not competitive with other current offerings in the opinion of a lot of people.  That should only offend you if the devs set out to make a competitive DAP.

 

 - OT, literally means literally, not "x1000".  If listening to your new phones makes you come in your pants every time you listen, I'm happy for you, but you might wanna get that looked at :P

 

 


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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

Keepin' it going.

 

 

Why?  This isn't a for sale thread.


Edited by Dragunov-21 - 10/26/12 at 3:19am
post #133 of 364

      This could have been a better discussion thread, if not for those fanboys. Even with fanboys' cheers, The 66% no (vs 33% yes) says it all; most of today's consumers are smart enough to evaluate a product themselves.

 

      I would not waste my time with fanboys. Fanboys do not make  products like developers do. If you are a real developer who wants to proudly advertise your product, then become a MOT (member of trade) at Headfi and listen to us potential buyers.

 

      I was interested in this product as a music player, so I provided my suggestions to its developers (regarding what to have as a music player). I suggested >160GB storage that is both faster and cheaper than SDXC (e.g., SSD or 1.8’’ ZIF HDD, both of which are available currently). The developers have not responded. Fanboys attacked me as “off base” and “selfish” (I respectfully ignored your attacks and I ask that you be respectable like I was/am).

 

      There is a niche market for good-sounding music player with >160GB storage and inexpensive pricing. Lots of music lovers, me included, have > 160GB of flac music and want to have access to all of their music on-the-go. These people are not “off base” or “selfish”. As an example, there are close to 700 Headfi posts that express such an interest (basically a flac-capable iPod-type device with storage >160GB), see:

 http://www.head-fi.org/t/566780/official-ipod-video-classic-5g-5-5g-6g-6-5g-7g-ssd-mod-thread/495#post_8811725

http://www.head-fi.org/t/600012/ipod-classic-7g-240gb

http://www.head-fi.org/t/604266/review-modded-ipod-classic-7g-with-240gb-hdd-from-ebay

 

      In view of the market demand, Pandora developers may consider making a portable, flac-capable music player that sounds better and stores more than a 7 gen iPod Classic. Maybe that is what Pandora 2 is for. Personally, I do not currently have $470 for the Pandora 1, as it was not designed primarily for music. I would rather wait for Fiio X3 (which has native flac support, SDXC, bass/treble/balance control, SPDIF digital output, 192/24, good DAC and amp chips and is round $200):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/528916/the-fiio-x3-thread-update-project-back-on


Edited by zzffnn - 10/26/12 at 8:22am
post #134 of 364
I made my point clear about selfish requests based on the development & community of this CURRENT device. I'm not a fanboi, or are some so blind as to not see that fact? Otherwise, this was never a request thread.

The OP was way off base from the start, and that's fully understood at this point. Now all the comments are just turning into bashing. I do agree the thread bumps are uncalled for, since if interest in this device ignites the thread will sustain itself.

Otherwise I'm personally done in this thread myself, unless I decide to bite the bullet and pop for this. At it's current pricing I'll just go but an iPod mini or 64gb iPod touch, or 1 of the multitude of Android devices available. Even a new Windows Tablet,...wink.gif

Once upon a time this was amazing,...I think it's golden age has passed,...for me at least.

L8R!!!
post #135 of 364
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Originally Posted by nywytboy68 View Post
I'm not a fanboi, or are some so blind as to not see that fact? 

 

Just in case it needs saying, I wasn't referring to you :P

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