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post #16 of 255
9/29/12 at 2:03pm
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eek.gif Why must you do this to my wallet? And just when I was set on getting either the Miracles or the UERMs. 

 

Sub-freaking-scribed


I'll tell you this much....

 

I took my C4 to a fellow head-fi member's house. He owns a UERM. Using my C4, he could tell they were better than his UERM.

 

That isn't to say he was/is going to chuck away his UERM, but he did admit they were better.

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9/29/12 at 2:15pm
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Any idea on shipping times and costs to NA? And does the frog design on the faceplates come by default? 

 

Love the colour options on their site, John Deere Green, LOL. 

 

But if there was even a slight section in the sound sig that wasn't completely neutral, would you have any idea where it would be?


Edited by TwinQY - 9/29/12 at 2:18pm
post #18 of 255
9/29/12 at 2:18pm

Tell me the secret behind that perfect drop.

post #19 of 255
9/29/12 at 2:26pm
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I'll tell you this much....

 

I took my C4 to a fellow head-fi member's house. He owns a UERM. Using my C4, he could tell they were better than his UERM.

 

That isn't to say he was/is going to chuck away his UERM, but he did admit they were better.

 

 
How did the other guy use your C4?
 
post #20 of 255
9/29/12 at 2:30pm
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Tell me the secret behind that perfect drop.

Tiny enough where the surface tension supports against gravity on a waxy leaf?

post #21 of 255
9/29/12 at 2:31pm

Tell me it's not a TWFK. wink_face.gif

post #22 of 255
9/29/12 at 2:46pm
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I'll tell you this much....

I took my C4 to a fellow head-fi member's house. He owns a UERM. Using my C4, he could tell they were better than his UERM.

That isn't to say he was/is going to chuck away his UERM, but he did admit they were better.

Mmm yes, how did your friend try your C4 which is custom molded to your ears?

Also just out of curiousty have you tried the UERM? A custom one for your ears by the way.
Edited by Swimsonny - 9/29/12 at 2:48pm
post #23 of 255
9/29/12 at 2:49pm

^^why did you have to rephrase your words ?

 

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Tiny enough where the surface tension supports against gravity on a waxy leaf?

Informative :) Next time I have to remember the laws of physics before going on a photo spree.


Edited by psygeist - 9/29/12 at 2:51pm
post #24 of 255
9/29/12 at 2:56pm

LFF has a lot of experience here and you can get other's customs to seal by dealing with some pain or a push.

He does like TWFK's more than I do, however.wink_face.gif That's a bit of a joke as I haven't heard every application. Playing with tube length, filter and xover may do wonders I've not yet experienced.

post #25 of 255
9/29/12 at 3:25pm
I didn't like how I come across when I read it back.

I am not questioning experiance and far from it, he was the one who made the DBA-02 appeal to me and that was my first real IEM love. I am a huge TWFK fan! However I just am not too sure on how a custom could get a true seal with someone else, I mean I have seen other peoples CIEMs in person and would not have wanted to put them in my ears and doubt I could have got a seal. I am not dying no seal but you could not get the intended seal surely.
post #26 of 255
9/29/12 at 3:28pm
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Any idea on shipping times and costs to NA? And does the frog design on the faceplates come by default? 

 

Love the colour options on their site, John Deere Green, LOL. 

 

But if there was even a slight section in the sound sig that wasn't completely neutral, would you have any idea where it would be?

 

Yes.

 

I ran a frequency sweep and did hear a tiny section that had a suckout. That said, I can only hear it on sweeps and can't hear it on music...no matter how hard I try. Suck outs are extremely difficult to hear, even by the most experienced mastering engineers and sound engineers.

 

 

As for the UERM, I have tried three universal models and one custom that fit in my ear canals.


Edited by LFF - 9/29/12 at 3:33pm
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9/29/12 at 3:34pm
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Yes.

 

I ran a frequency sweep and did hear a tiny section that had a suckout. That said, I can only hear it on sweeps and can't hear it on music...no matter how hard I try. Suck outs are extremely difficult to hear, even by the most experienced mastering engineers and sound engineers.

Well, better suck outs than peaks, that's for sure. I haven't heard them, but I hear while the UERMs are pretty neutral, there's some emphasis on treble, which makes me think twice about getting them (then again, the Miracles reportedly have that as well). The C4s sound like an enticing alternative.

post #28 of 255
9/29/12 at 3:37pm
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Well, better suck outs than peaks, that's for sure. I haven't heard them, but I hear while the UERMs are pretty neutral, there's some emphasis on treble, which makes me think twice about getting them (then again, the Miracles reportedly have that as well). The C4s sound like an enticing alternative.

 

Indeed! I swear...unless you run individual tones, you will NEVER hear it.


Of the three universals I heard, none of them sounded EXACTLY alike. They all had a neutral sound signature, yes...but they varied a little. I think that's just the nature of IEM's and our ears.

post #29 of 255
9/29/12 at 3:54pm

May I know which section of the FR is the suckout at?


Edited by wiinippongamer - 10/1/12 at 9:41am
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9/29/12 at 3:57pm
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May I know which section of the FR is the suckout at?


At around 3600 cycles.

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