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Companion IEM to ER-4P?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Dear guys, I need your advice this time as I bought ER4Pt over 8 months for music production and mixing purpose. I really like it's detail, clearity and mid-high freq but I really want more bass from there. Cos im producing Trance/House and when I mix on ER4P, the result is always lack in bass especially sub bass ommp. I know how to insert to my ears and when I listen to new age, world music and acoustic music it is ok in everything. But for Edm music, it's always lack something in layered synth bass, typically hear in Swedish House Mafia style bass...

So Im thinking to get another IEM for companion to ER4P, around 200$ price range (if necessary 300 is ok) and I need following,

- nearly ER4P details with more accurate and sub bass (but not over powered)
- comfort (I don't think my ER4P is comfort ime)
- also good for general listening ( I only use Er4P to mixing cos its too analytical)

My goal is that I will mixing with both ER4p and my new IEM (that you recommed) to get well balanced frequency without lacking bass! Btw, I already own HD650 but I prefer IEM type and so I rarely use it.

Thanks for your time and sorry for my English smily_headphones1.gif
post #2 of 21

Why don't you get something very different from the ER4P, like the Atrio (MG7)? It can be had for $100 on Atrio.me with the CostProg50% coupon code. While the ER4P trounces the Atrio on details, I personally find the Atrio flatter than the ER4P over the whole frequency range. The ER4P has better upper extension, while the Atrio has better lower extension. One uses a BA driver, the other a dynamic one. Using both will give you a broader perspective.


Edited by Sinocelt - 9/28/12 at 10:53am
post #3 of 21

I haven't heard it, but a number of people here like the VSonic GR07 -- there is a newer version, usually labeled "MK 2/II".  Very detailed for a dynamic driver, but with the fullness and kick of a dynamic.

 

You can buy them from Amazon.com, or on eBay from sellers in Hong Kong.

post #4 of 21

You want champagne for the price of beer, just like eveyone else here, 

 

Nothing at $200 exists with your criteria.

post #5 of 21

So what are the options (disregarding the $200 budget limit) for an IEM that gives Ety's highs, mids, detail, and clarity....but also delivers some clean, subwoofer style bass? Is there even such a beast?

post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by ArmAndHammer View Post

So what are the options (disregarding the $200 budget limit) for an IEM that gives Ety's highs, mids, detail, and clarity....but also delivers some clean, subwoofer style bass? Is there even such a beast?

 

Not that I know of... I can think of a few under $1000 hahaha

post #7 of 21
How about a good amp with a bass boost feature such as the Minibox-E+(if you can find one). I'm sure there are plenty of other amps that have such a feature, but I'm not well versed in amps. You might want to consider EQ as well. Ety definitely has the potential to pump out massive amounts of bass.
post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 
@Sinocelt I just checked the Atrio and wow it has a lot of positive review abt it's bass. Thanks for the advice and I guess it's what I need in Er4p and Im gonnna learn abt it more. But I'd like to know it is comfortable? How abt mid? i have read that it has superb bass and high.

@Kmhaynes thanks mate. Actually I have never read abt it and now Im gonna check it through this forum.
post #9 of 21

The GR01, CK10, DBA-02 MKII, HF5 are better close match to ER4P in term of soundquality with more bass. Others IEMs like Sony EX1000, Denon AH-C400 are also great buy under this price range.


Edited by ZARIM - 9/29/12 at 9:11am
post #10 of 21

GR01 = most balanced dual armature out there. It really does sound perfect.

post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by Kl7Music View Post

@Sinocelt I just checked the Atrio and wow it has a lot of positive review abt it's bass. Thanks for the advice and I guess it's what I need in Er4p and Im gonnna learn abt it more. But I'd like to know it is comfortable? How abt mid? i have read that it has superb bass and high.

 

Fit is similar to the ER4's. Tips are compatible. The best tips I've found for the ER4 are the Atrio's!

 

I like the mids on the Atrio ... after burn-in. Before, they sound recessed. 

 

With the Atrio, I can't hear up to 16 kHz, while I can with the ER4.

post #12 of 21

I'm using an IE-8 from Sennheiser as an alternative for my Etymotic HF-3 for exactly that reason.

The Sennheisers offer more bass, have a bit more lively mids and get close to the detail and openess of the Etys in the HF.

 

Its a shame that the tips are not compatible though...

post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by ArmAndHammer View Post

So what are the options (disregarding the $200 budget limit) for an IEM that gives Ety's highs, mids, detail, and clarity....but also delivers some clean, subwoofer style bass? Is there even such a beast?

 

No None..there is no universal that will do that, trust me.

 

Custom JH16 (which I owned) describes what you want but it will set you back $1,200

post #14 of 21

Westone 4 would be a good choice... as well as ultimate ears UE900 will be great ( it has linear bass , so it s a no)  

post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by Kl7Music View Post

Dear guys, I need your advice this time as I bought ER4Pt over 8 months for music production and mixing purpose. I really like it's detail, clearity and mid-high freq but I really want more bass from there. Cos im producing Trance/House and when I mix on ER4P, the result is always lack in bass especially sub bass ommp. I know how to insert to my ears and when I listen to new age, world music and acoustic music it is ok in everything. But for Edm music, it's always lack something in layered synth bass, typically hear in Swedish House Mafia style bass...
So Im thinking to get another IEM for companion to ER4P, around 200$ price range (if necessary 300 is ok) and I need following,
- nearly ER4P details with more accurate and sub bass (but not over powered)
- comfort (I don't think my ER4P is comfort ime)
- also good for general listening ( I only use Er4P to mixing cos its too analytical)
My goal is that I will mixing with both ER4p and my new IEM (that you recommed) to get well balanced frequency without lacking bass! Btw, I already own HD650 but I prefer IEM type and so I rarely use it.
Thanks for your time and sorry for my English smily_headphones1.gif

 

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Edited by Sylaw - 9/30/12 at 9:15pm
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