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post #1021 of 1775

Omnifone will be handling the website side of the Pono project - http://www.omnifone.com/content/omnifone-powers-neil-youngs-ponomusic

 

Does anyone have experience with this company's services?

post #1022 of 1775

No, but I will after my Pono arrives in October or November.  :)

post #1023 of 1775

Interesting.

 

I thought the whole point of PONO was that every Hi-Res music release in the PONO ecosystem would be vetted by Neil Young as being truly fit-for-purpose (I'm not saying they've directly stated this, but their PR does seem to at least imply that Neil is making a very specific effort to ensure genuine Hi-Res sound quality of PONO content).

 

We all know there is a lot of dubious content being hawked as 'Hi-Res', when it's just upsampled or poorly-mastered crap. The PONO ecosystem is pitching itself as being a superior alternative to poorly-mastered content.

 

...but I don't see how on earth Neil can possibly know how much of omnifone's existing catalogue (which they claim to comprise 35 million tracks) is of truly Hi-Res calibre.

 

 

Seems like a shortcut which may offer nothing whatsoever new to the market, other than a useless branding exercise.

 

We already have Hi-Res-capable DAPs.

 

We already have Hi-Res content, of varying quality (to put it politely), being retailed, at huge profit, by numerous vendors in various countries.

 

So, if Neil is going to just buy into an existing vendor, then what the hell is he offering that is in any way superior to the existing status quo of the Hi-Res marketplace?? :confused_face_2:  Whatever marginal USP the PONO endeavour might, barely, have had, has just gone out of the window...

post #1024 of 1775

Is Neil Young buying into the Omnifone catalogue or is he using their software (or a version they have developed/adapted for Neil) to deliver Pono-approved files? It's not clearly stated either way.
 

post #1025 of 1775
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Originally Posted by PalJoey View Post
 

Is Neil Young buying into the Omnifone catalogue or is he using their software (or a version they have developed/adapted for Neil) to deliver Pono-approved files? It's not clearly stated either way.
 

 

 

That's a good question, but, if you look at the above link, you'll see this:

 

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 Omnifone was selected to power the PonoMusic store because of its award-winning cloud music platform and its industry-leading audio expertise and commitment to audio quality. Standing at 35 million tracks, MusicStation - Omnifone’s cloud music platform - hosts the industry’s largest catalogue of high resolution content, obtained from rights holders in all corners of the world. This rich collection of premium quality audio - and its distributed delivery from the cloud - will enable PonoMusic to achieve global scale quickly.

 

To me, that seems to quite firmly imply that Neil will be including Omnifone's existing music catalogue within the PONO offering.

 

But, I suppose, we could find PONO being represented as a seperate 'section' (or pseudo/virtual-'Record Label') within the larger Omnifone catalogue, thus retaining some differentiation.

 

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, but there's zero excitement about PONO in my household. I just remain casually curious about how it will all pan out; nothing more.

 

 

 

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Edited by Mython - 7/23/14 at 12:58pm
post #1026 of 1775
Annnnd....crash.
post #1027 of 1775

only thing Im excited for is better masters hopefully.

 

 

The high res/pono player means nothing to me.

post #1028 of 1775

Sure if the player set off some sort of revolution for better masters it would be nice but that is a true pipedream.

 

That's not going to happen, currently people are destroying their ears in movie theaters due to similar mastering trends and dont care.  The money is there so there's no reason to change unless it's better for business.

post #1029 of 1775

I say again: I really do not understand the negativity and skepticism about Pono or any other new venture in our little world.  Where's the excitement that at least someone is trying to do something that might be new and different and might sound good?  And who cares if it's not all that new or its been done before or pre-release hype exceeds reality?  That's how it always is in this industry  - and there is always room for a new product.  Come on people.  I thought this forum was for enthusiasts??

post #1030 of 1775
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Originally Posted by Ableza View Post

I say again: I really do not understand the negativity and skepticism about Pono or any other new venture in our little world.  Where's the excitement that at least someone is trying to do something that might be new and different and might sound good?  And who cares if it's not all that new or its been done before or pre-release hype exceeds reality?  That's how it always is in this industry  - and there is always room for a new product.  Come on people.  I thought this forum was for enthusiasts??
This is why.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/its-masters-damit
post #1031 of 1775

I fail to see what that blogger's opinion (which seemed to be positive toward Pono) has to do with anything?  Yes the "loudness Wars" suck.  But isn't that exactly what things like Pono are designed to help alleviate?  So why is that blogger's opinion driving negativity toward Pono on this forum?  Perhaps I just don't get it, but that seems like utter foolishness to me.

post #1032 of 1775
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Originally Posted by Ableza View Post
 

I say again: I really do not understand the negativity and skepticism about Pono or any other new venture in our little world.  Where's the excitement that at least someone is trying to do something that might be new and different and might sound good?  And who cares if it's not all that new or its been done before or pre-release hype exceeds reality?  That's how it always is in this industry  - and there is always room for a new product.  Come on people.  I thought this forum was for enthusiasts??

 

 

Because there's too much misleading B$, hot air, smoke & mirrors, that's why. PONO isn't the groundbreaking thing it is being hyped to be. If Neil and his chums would cut all the misleading hype (the innerfidelity link makes a worthwhile stab at this), then far fewer people would regard the venture with negativity. PONO is NOT "new and different"; it's just pretending to be, and that rightly irritates those of us who aren't gullible enough to swallow the PR.

 

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post #1033 of 1775
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

 

Because there's too much misleading B$, hot air, smoke & mirrors, that's why. PONO isn't the groundbreaking thing it is being hyped to be. If Neil and his chums would cut all the misleading hype (the innerfidelity link makes a worthwhile stab at this), then far fewer people would regard the venture with negativity. PONO is NOT "new and different"; it's just pretending to be, and that rightly irritates those of us who aren't gullible enough to swallow the PR.

 

But neither you nor I nor anyone else has a f*king clue about that yet, do we?  And we won't until the product hits the streets in it's commercially realized form.  Until then,any negativity is just as much hot air as any positivity (and much more annoying.)  In my mind, an enthusiast remains optimistic until their hopes are dashed on teh rocks of reality.  It's a different sort of person who starts off casting aspersions.


Edited by Ableza - 7/25/14 at 2:58pm
post #1034 of 1775
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Originally Posted by Ableza View Post

I fail to see what that blogger's opinion (which seemed to be positive toward Pono) has to do with anything?  Yes the "loudness Wars" suck.  But isn't that exactly what things like Pono are designed to help alleviate?  So why is that blogger's opinion driving negativity toward Pono on this forum?  Perhaps I just don't get it, but that seems like utter foolishness to me.
Here's the third sentence of the article:
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I'm totally cool with Harman's idea that the consuming public would strongly benefit from a better understanding of how crappy the average music listening experience is today...but it pisses me right off when this laudable effort is corrupted by an unbalanced, and sometimes plain false, portrayal of the problem.

That's why people are so against the Pono movement.


Here's our own Currawong's comment from the comments section:
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What will ultimately happen is..that they will damage the hobby and industry as a whole with this misleading advertising.
post #1035 of 1775

But like I said, we really don't know yet if it's misleading.  People are making assumptions based on facts not in evidence.  That is not what genuine enthusiasts do.

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