Originally Posted by nigeljames
Sorry I don't know what your problem is.
I have never slated the SQ of the DS. If I have a issue it's with RSA for charging 50% of the cost of the amp for the casing which had nothing to do with SQ.
IMO that's poor business and targets a customer base who are more interested in asthetics than SQ
If RSA produce another DS with the same features, power and SQ but use a much cheaper, but still perfectly good case, and sell that amp for $1500 - $2000 they would sell a lot more.
Based on pure value there is no reason to assume the DS is a better amp. I think it's reasonable that when someone is in the market for an amp in say the $2500 -$3500 they can expect the vast majority of the cost to be on parts and labour and not the one thing that does not relate to SQ. To be fair to RSA they don't hide the fact that the DS's price is 50% casework, which is very nice.
As you have probably never heard the Master-6/8 I think you are being very short sighted if you feel the Master-6 can't compete against the DS.
As this matter is not what this thread is about I hope we can now get back to the topic of the thread.
While you didn't slate the SQ of the DS...you did insinuate the DS not being as good as your amp. All I'm saying is until you hear the amp don't make assumptions.
Price aside, I'm talking about pure SQ. It's known the DS has an expensive price tag because of the case work. But what you basically said was the DS is a $1750 amp
and should only be compared to lower entry amps, again without hearing it. I think the DS is one of the best amps out there, again focusing on SQ.
Yes, the DS isn't the best for orthos or dynamics, it's a very good combo for HE-6. That's not to say it's not good overall with all headphones.
It just commands a high price tag for being exceptional with 1 can. Especially considering there's a ton of good amps to choose from.
I've heard the Master 6 and IMO, the DS is better. That's just one's opinion, but the difference being I have actually heard the amp.
I just don't find it very meaningful when people talk about gear they've never had first hand experience with. Sure, we rely on reviews to give us insight on future purchases,
or to boosts our interest in some gear. But to take Rob's impressions of the DS as your own, uh that's wrong. Even if you trust his ears, they're not yours.
So sure, take the opportunity to listen to the DS and then report your findings. Maybe I'm being anal about needing to hear the gear, it just makes sense to me.
So in not being shortsighted or presumptuous, I don't know about the Master 8, but from prior experience I'm just not sure how much the Master 8 is an improvement.
But of course, it's very possible that it's a great amp. I won't say anything further until I get to hear one.