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post #631 of 1133
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post

Is the emotiva an upgrade or a sidegrade if one has an o2? 

 

It depends what you're driving.

 

If you're using insensitive orthos, the Emotiva is a solid upgrade.

 

You wouldn't want to use the Emotiva with sensitive low impedance headphones or earphones. It's a speaker amp. So the gain is very high. A speaker amp like this without any resistors added to the output or without the use of a cable with resistors added shouldn't be paired with low impedance, high sensitivity headphones, it will be very hissy, high noise floor on those and outright destroy someone's IEM's if they tried it probably.

 

The Emotiva isn't a replacement for someone for their entire headphone collection. Most headphones shouldn't be on a speaker amp. The O2 is simply a good headphone amp, for people with normal headphones that have lower impedance, high impedance, but mostly sensitive. The Emotiva, or any speaker amp really, should really be reserved for very high impedance headphones, and low impedance headphones that are also insensitive (like most orthos). Even the high impedance headphones should really be as insensitive as possible really for a good overall match. This entire thread is about a speaker amp instead of a headphone amp, because the point is to deliver copious amounts of current to insensitive (or inefficient) headphones without having to buy a $1000 headphone amp.

 

So if you have some insensitive orthos or very high impedance, insensitive headphones, try the Emotiva.

If you do not, well, stick to basic headphone amps.

 

Very best,

post #632 of 1133
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Upgrade no doubt.  Really it depends on the headphones you use.

 

 

Agreed. Orthos really benefit from this much power the most.

post #633 of 1133
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

 

Agreed. Orthos really benefit from this much power the most.

 

And HiFiMan orthos (which are less efficient) benefit more so than Audeze orthos (which are more efficient), right?  (Anyone?)

 

Thanks,

 

Mike 

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And HiFiMan orthos (which are less efficient) benefit more so than Audeze orthos (which are more efficient), right?  (Anyone?)

 

Thanks,

 

Mike 

 

Very true..

post #635 of 1133
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And HiFiMan orthos (which are less efficient) benefit more so than Audeze orthos (which are more efficient), right?  (Anyone?)

 

Thanks,

 

Mike 

 

Maybe. I personally can't vouch for that until I get my balanced cables for LCD-2.

post #636 of 1133

 

And about how much?

 

Thanks

 

Jack

post #637 of 1133
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post

Is the emotiva an upgrade or a sidegrade if one has an o2? 

 

As some people already said, it depends on the headphone. Although I would like to add that even with those planar orthos if you can find a good recording, the O2 can pump out bass just like the Emotiva, so in that regard it's a sidegrade just to get different flavours. Although on average recordings, the Emotiva does better for sure. If you were only planning to get planar magnetics and could only pick one amp, I think I would go with Emotiva. The O2, atleast my O2, doesn't give me the consistency all the time. Out of all my other amps, the O2 is the one amp that one moment it feels like it's allergic to bass and other moments it feels as if the bass is going to blow up cans....seriously, no exaggeration there. With Emotiva you know what you're getting everytime, just like with my E10.

post #638 of 1133

I've compared the HE-6 and LCD2 on a speaker amp. The HE-6 definitely had a marked improvement while the LCD2 kinda sounded the same. Granted, I only tried with a single amp (my Nuforce Icon2).

 

The best pairing I've heard for the LCD2 has been the Lyr. 

post #639 of 1133
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And about how much?

 

Thanks

 

Jack

 

Stay glued to the For Sale fourms.  This one and AudioGon.  Solude is selling a F3 right now.

post #640 of 1133

Which do you think is better for the HE 6 F3 or F1J?

 

Again Thanks--

 

Jack

post #641 of 1133

Preproman--Looking at a old Denon POA-2200 Stereo Power Amplifier now on Audiogon 200 watts @ 8 Ohms from the early 80's--gets some pretty good reviews--

 

What speaker amps do you think specifically deliver high current as that is what I believe the HE 6's need?

 

Thanks

 

Jack

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Maybe I should add reasonably priced versus no holds barred high current speaker amps...........

 

I already have the Emotiva Mini X and XPA 200 (150 watts@ 8 Ohms) Schiit MOLNIR-LYR-ASGAARD-MAGNI & Bryston BHA 1

 

Currently using the HE 6's with the XPA 200 using the BHA1 as a Pre Amp---Sounds the best of the bunch

 

Jack


Edited by jackiedh - 1/29/13 at 12:34pm
post #643 of 1133
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Maybe I should add reasonably priced versus no holds barred high current speaker amps...........

 

I already have the Emotiva Mini X and XPA 200 (150 watts@ 8 Ohms) Schiit MOLNIR-LYR-ASGAARD-MAGNI & Bryston BHA 1

 

Currently using the HE 6's with the XPA 200 using the BHA1 as a Pre Amp---Sounds the best of the bunch

 

Jack

 

 

Ah, man it sounds like your all set.  

 

My dream setup is a pair of F4s.  No voltage gain - It's all current gain.  So you'll need a pre amp to get the voltage.

 

http://firstwatt.com/f4.html

post #644 of 1133

Will get expensive for sure!!!!!!

 

Jack

post #645 of 1133
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

Ah, man it sounds like your all set.  

 

My dream setup is a pair of F4s.  No voltage gain - It's all current gain.  So you'll need a pre amp to get the voltage.

 

http://firstwatt.com/f4.html


My problem is that with this setup I have practically no movement on the volume knob of the Bryston--

 

I have tried some Rothwell 10db attenuators but no big help--

 

I am looking into getting a Goldpoint Passive Volume Controller to go between my Gungir and the Emotiva XPA 200--But they are pretty pricey....

 

Oh Well--Otherwise sounds pretty darn good!!

 

By the way my LCD 2 Rev2's sound pretty awesome in this setup also--but even less volume knob range.....

 

Jack


Edited by jackiedh - 1/29/13 at 2:17pm
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