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post #2431 of 3790
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

I know.. But there's solutions for limited volume control without affecting SQ. I am more concerned about noise. 

 

Heya,

 

Noise will come down to it's gain multiplier. You'd have to consult the manual. If it has a low gain multiplier, but more current output, then it probably has the same noise as the mini-X, but will simply gain volume faster. If it has a higher gain multiplier, it will be noisier.

 

UPA200 is 29dB gain.

Mini-X doesn't have it's value in it's manual.

 

Very best,


Edited by MalVeauX - 11/25/13 at 10:19am
post #2432 of 3790
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

I know.. But there's solutions for limited volume control without affecting SQ. I am more concerned about noise. 

 

Heya,

 

Noise will come down to it's gain multiplier. You'd have to consult the manual. If it has a low gain multiplier, but more current output, then it probably has the same noise as the mini-X, but will simply gain volume faster. If it has a higher gain multiplier, it will be noisier.

 

Very best,

Thank you. Input sensitivity of the mini-x at full volume is 0.6 V for 50 watts in 8 ohms, and the input sensitivity is 1.1 V for 125 watts in 8 ohm with the upa-200 which makes the mini-x havin a higher gain if you feed it, say 1 volt versus the upa-200. Don't know what that really translate to after all.

post #2433 of 3790
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

Thank you. Input sensitivity of the mini-x at full volume is 0.6 V for 50 watts in 8 ohms, and the input sensitivity is 1.1 V for 125 watts in 8 ohm with the upa-200 which makes the mini-x havin a higher gain if you feed it, say 1 volt versus the upa-200. Don't know what that really translate to after all.

 

Heya,

 

True, it's possible that technically the UPA-200 is "quieter" but tech specs and real world listening are two different things. Unfortunately I don't have a UPA-200 to test to verify. Would be interesting to find out though.

 

Very best,

post #2434 of 3790

I don't think you can deduce much from specs in that regard. Guess I'll have to try and go digging for some peoples experience/opinions on the amp (or alternatively xpa-200 as they are pretty similar).

post #2435 of 3790
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The color dots are on the underside of the black speaker tap sleeve.  :smile: 

Is the cable on these a good match with the stock HE-550 SPC cable?

post #2436 of 3790
Anybody have a real comparison between mini-x vs Lyr with the orthos?
post #2437 of 3790
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Anybody have a real comparison between mini-x vs Lyr with the orthos?

 

This thread you're posting in has direct comparisons. Linked on the first page.

 

Here's a link to that.

 

Very best,

post #2438 of 3790
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Anybody have a real comparison between mini-x vs Lyr with the orthos?

 

IMO:


Emotiva is far better for the HE-500 and LCD-2. For me. I had the Lyr for over a year and rolled in 60s Telefunken tubes too. Lyr sounds smeared/veiled compared to the clean Emotiva. Emotiva is also more dynamic and gives better slam and extension on both ends. Emotiva also has better transparency and is also more neutral.

 

This is all my opinion only. of course YMMV, grains of salts, etc, etc.

post #2439 of 3790
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

 

IMO:


Emotiva is far better for the HE-500 and LCD-2. For me. I had the Lyr for over a year and rolled in 60s Telefunken tubes too. Lyr sounds smeared/veiled compared to the clean Emotiva. Emotiva is also more dynamic and gives better slam and extension on both ends. Emotiva also has better transparency and is also more neutral.

 

This is all my opinion only. of course YMMV, grains of salts, etc, etc.

Thx to you.  My mileage is now like yours.  :beerchug: 

post #2440 of 3790
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Anybody have a real comparison between mini-x vs Lyr with the orthos?

I've never owned the Lyr but have listened to it on more than a few occasions.  From memory, I would likely agree with M-13's impressions.  However, I can give you a better comparison.    WA22 vs Mini-x!  How's that?  :p

As I am typing this post, the 2 amps are next to each other.  Guess which one is driving the HE500?  ...... Emotiva.  The WA22 is also on but acting as a heater right now.  I do plug the HE500 into WA22 for certain tracks that don't require as much pwr to bring out the bottom end.  Tracks that hoover from low mid to high, the WA22 will win.  Tracks that reach down and down, Mini-x does kick WA22's behind hard while giving a very comparble mid and high, though definitely not as refined and smooth.  HE500 + Mini-X = "lively"  while HE500 + WA22 = "syrup smooth". 

 

Overall, Mini-X is my preferred amp for HE500.


Edited by koiloco - 11/25/13 at 6:38pm
post #2441 of 3790

 

 

Finally got the gear and interconnects to try out this Mini X He-500 project, I have a tried the HE-500 on my Woo WA6, and my Woo WA6 SE, The synergy with the Mini X is definitely better. This is a cheap alternative to dedicated headphone amps costing way more. 

post #2442 of 3790

^ The ultimate combo of portable and non-portable. The paradox is going to make my head explode! Or maybe just your headphones :wink_face:

post #2443 of 3790
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Originally Posted by gameboy View Post
 

 

 

Finally got the gear and interconnects to try out this Mini X He-500 project, I have a tried the HE-500 on my Woo WA6, and my Woo WA6 SE, The synergy with the Mini X is definitely better. This is a cheap alternative to dedicated headphone amps costing way more. 

:beerchug: Welcome to the Mini-x club.  I even prefer the Mini-X over my WA22 for HE500.

post #2444 of 3790
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

:beerchug: Welcome to the Mini-x club.  I even prefer the Mini-X over my WA22 for HE500.


Can't wait to hear that said to ME...

 

Unfortunately Amazon is still being annoying and has kept the Emotiva "currently unavailable" for over a week

post #2445 of 3790
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 


Can't wait to hear that said to ME...

 

Unfortunately Amazon is still being annoying and has kept the Emotiva "currently unavailable" for over a week

 

 

I was just lucky to find this item online, this thread made the Mini X hard to come by. :regular_smile :

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

:beerchug: Welcome to the Mini-x club.  I even prefer the Mini-X over my WA22 for HE500.

 

Thanks! The Mini X puts a lot of thousand dollar headphone amps to shame.:beerchug:

 
 
 
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Originally Posted by manbear View Post
 

^ The ultimate combo of portable and non-portable. The paradox is going to make my head explode! Or maybe just your headphones :wink_face:

 

 

Anything to get a better experience out of the hard to drive HE-500. :o2smile:

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