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post #2161 of 3790
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post

I just got in my TRS to speaker taps cable from Ted @ Headphone Lounge, and the Mad Dogs 3.2 sound eek.gif  too much! basshead.gif  with the Mini-X.   

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These cans do not need this much power as compared to the LCD-2.  I now realize that my Centrance M8 is perfectly fine with the Mad Dogs.  But how about the Alphas?  hm...

Interestingly, my oldskoo DT990's kick ass with this amp.  These were one of my first cans and I picked them up originally thinking it was a "more fun" DT880.  I've never really enjoyed the 990's till now.

Now I'm looking around for sommathem "hard to drive" cans... bring 'em on!  The Mini-X to me totally obviates the need for balanced drive, given its dynamics.  

(thus sayeth this poor bastard who spent $1,400 on Headroom's Balanced Desktop amp back in the day)  



I try to make this adaptor.
which terminals should be short-circuited to get TRS female?
Both grounds (black ones) can be connected together?
post #2162 of 3790
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
^deadie,  btw, do you experience any hiss/hum on the MD from the Mini-X?

Yep - there is very faint hiss when using the MD's as well as with my LCD-2 and DT990, but it's immediately imperceptible once the music starts.  Interestingly, the hiss level does not increase linearly with the volume knob -- at max volume (this isn't scary at all :D ) it's just a tad bit more forward.  Thankfully, there is no hum! 

 

Hiss story -- I actually got on the "speaker amp for headphones" wagon a while ago, but initially had a bad / "what's the big deal?" experience that it turned me away for over a year. 

 

There was an OP a while back who used his Luxman vintage integrated with headphones.  Intrigued by this, I got a balanced XLR to speaker taps cable and used it with my Denon 3804 receiver.  For HT, this was a decent and not cheap piece of gear back in the day, good power, and the damn thing weighs like 30lbs.

 

It sucked.  Super loud hiss right at minimum volume and no weight or dynamics behind the sound.  I also tried this with an entry level Pioneer receiver, no surprise, same result.

 

The Denon's been long replaced by Emotiva's XPA-2 300W 73lb beast and a Marantz processor.  I've been quite happy with that, and nowhere near tempted to hook up the headphones.      

 

Cut to present with this OP's experience with the Mini-X, and it's night and day with the Denon.  As we all know, the Emo is quiet and very punchy.  I wish I'd read this thread sooner, as I would have skipped over the Lyr for my LCD-2s.  

 

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Sorry, but in my experience - I find the exact opposite. 

Interesting... you find the Mad Dogs to be *less* sensitive than the LCD-2s?  For me, I'm way lower on the Emo volume knob with the MDs, and every millimeter pot movement is much more pronounced than the LCD-2.

 

Thinking about it, I suppose the most significant variable in my rig is that I use different speaker tap to headphone adapters for the MD vs. the LCD-2.  I use that TRS adapter with silver leads and hybrid silver / copper wires from Headphone Lounge vs. a full copper balanced XLR to speaker tap adapter with the LCD-2.  

 

To eliminate this variable, I need to find my stock SE cable for the LCD-2s, and then use the same speaker tap adapter on both.  Now to hunt in the damn cable jungle.  None of you have this problem right?

   

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post #2163 of 3790
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post
 

 

To eliminate this variable, I need to find my stock SE cable for the LCD-2s, and then use the same speaker tap adapter on both.  Now to hunt in the damn cable jungle.  None of you have this problem right?

  

 

Wrong

post #2164 of 3790

I have to admit that did raise an eyebrow. I didn't have a mad dog with the emotiva, but the t50 mod I had definitely was a good pairing with the Emotiva. From Memory they seemed to be in the same league (not saying which is harder to drive cause I can't really remember) of power hunger.

 

Also when researching the lcd-2 before purchasing  I kept reading how it wasn't as power hungry as people thought, thus making me kinda wonder if the Emotiva is a little overkill for it. But the Audeze site says it does best at 1-4W.... Similar to the he-500 with a recommended power of 1W as well. Unlike the he5le 2W, he-6 8W

:rolleyes:prob just the wattage to get them enjoyable... 

 

 

The Modded t50 I had I tried on a 1W amp and felt I needed a little bit more power.

 

But we are all here partly because we want more than 1W. Experience says it won't suffice in doing these magnetic beasts justice.

 

I tried the Mad dog 3.0 on the audio gd nfb 11.32 and hated it but that could be because of the amps edginess and me not liking the mad dog 3.0. It was underwhelming though, unlike when i had the Emotiva and the ZMF modd (though I like that mod tons more than the mad dog 3.0)

 

Also I may not be as picky as others here but I really enjoyed the hd650 with the Emotiva as well. I would like to try a beyerdynamic dt990 600 ohm with it and others just for fun.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 11/2/13 at 10:19am
post #2165 of 3790
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post
 

 

 

To eliminate this variable, I need to find my stock SE cable for the LCD-2s, and then use the same speaker tap adapter on both.  Now to hunt in the damn cable jungle.  None of you have this problem right?

  

 

Wrong again I have a much bigger box with cables and takes forever to go thru.

post #2166 of 3790

LCD-2 would be a nice item to add to collection!

post #2167 of 3790
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Originally Posted by john57 View Post
 

Wrong again I have a much bigger box with cables and takes forever to go thru.

well my cable box/amp combo is cooler and more compact....

post #2168 of 3790
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

well my cable box/amp combo is cooler and more compact....


What is this? Are those 4 cables ethernet cables?

post #2169 of 3790
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Originally Posted by manbear View Post
 


What is this? Are those 4 cables ethernet cables?

what you know about 4 ethernet cables  all going into one usb plug for higher resolution....:L3000:?

post #2170 of 3790
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

what you know about 4 ethernet cables  all going into one usb plug for higher resolution....:L3000:?


I know nothing about 4 ethernet cables lol. That's what it kind of looks like though. 

post #2171 of 3790
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Originally Posted by Joong View Post


I try to make this [female 6.3mm TRS to speaker terminals] adaptor.
which terminals should be short-circuited to get TRS female?
Both grounds (black ones) can be connected together?

Left+ connects to the TRS tip

Right+ connects to the TRS Ring (middle part of the TRS plug)

Left- and Right- (both black grounds) can be connected together and connect to the TRS Sleeve connector. Since the Mini-X is a single ended amp you really only have to connect the TRS Sleeve to one of the amp's black speaker terminals because both black speaker terminals are connected to ground. You really only need 3 wires to connect to the Mini-X's speaker terminals.

 

This is a TRS male but a TRS female is wired the same with both Left- and Right- connected to the TRS Sleeve:

 


Edited by robrob - 11/2/13 at 6:33pm
post #2172 of 3790

So I have the He-500 and I know it must have been written somewhere in these 145 pages but what are the best options for connecting the HE-500 to the emotivas? Would anyone be kind enough as to provide some links where I might be able to buy the appropriate cable?

post #2173 of 3790
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Originally Posted by Ethereal Sound View Post
 

So I have the He-500 and I know it must have been written somewhere in these 145 pages but what are the best options for connecting the HE-500 to the emotivas? Would anyone be kind enough as to provide some links where I might be able to buy the appropriate cable?

 

This is your best solution for connecting your HE-500s with the Emotiva Mini-X. Details are on page 144 of this thread:

 

Warning: Do not connect this cable to a balanced amplifier because both negative speaker connectors are connected together inside the TRS socket. You may damage or destroy a balanced amp if you try to use this connector. A balanced amp needs a 4-pin connector like a 4-pin XLR or dual 3-pin XLRs.


Edited by robrob - 11/3/13 at 7:37am
post #2174 of 3790
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Originally Posted by robrob View Post
 

 

This is your best solution for connecting your HE-500s with the Emotiva Mini-X. Details are on page 144 of this thread:

 

 

Oh awesome. One thing though. It appears that they are not color coded so how will I know which goes in where?

post #2175 of 3790
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Originally Posted by Ethereal Sound View Post
Oh awesome. One thing though. It appears that they are not color coded so how will I know which goes in where?

The color dots are on the underside of the black speaker tap sleeve.  :smile: 

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