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post #2146 of 3639

The only advantage I can think of is that if you have a balanced cable and then a balanced -> banana adapter, you can use the headphone cable with other amps. A cable directly terminated in banana plugs will obviously only be useful for speaker amps. Otherwise, they should be the same. There are 4 wires inside the cable. Whether those wires are connected to the holes in an XLR plug or banana plugs shouldn't matter -- the only difference is the shape of the piece of metal at the end of the wire.  

post #2147 of 3639

Ahahaha, I'm running my HE-6 right now off a FiiO e17 + a1. What's the a1 you ask? Fiio's now discontinued (but still available if you shop around) speaker amp. It's "only" a 14W amp, but I get it to moderately painful listening levels before it clips.

 

It's a really fun listen. Have I heard better? Well yeah... but for $80 and a small footprint, I have no complaints whatsoever.

post #2148 of 3639
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Ahahaha, I'm running my HE-6 right now off a FiiO e17 + a1. What's the a1 you ask? Fiio's now discontinued (but still available if you shop around) speaker amp. It's "only" a 14W amp, but I get it to moderately painful listening levels before it clips.

 

It's a really fun listen. Have I heard better? Well yeah... but for $80 and a small footprint, I have no complaints whatsoever.


14W, what topology is that amp?

post #2149 of 3639
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14W, what topology is that amp?

I believe it is a Class-D amp:

 

http://www.amazon.com/A1-2x14W-Class-D-Digital-Amplifier/dp/B004FSXON8

post #2150 of 3639
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post
 

I believe it is a Class-D amp:

 

http://www.amazon.com/A1-2x14W-Class-D-Digital-Amplifier/dp/B004FSXON8


I suspected so using the TI chipset I see. The old Logitech Ipod dock used the same chipset and makes a fairly decent little amp If you can find one cheap enough. Ti also makes a specific headphone amp chip which integrates into that digital amp circuit.

post #2151 of 3639
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Just wanted to see if anyone knew this answer... this will be my last time "reposting" this though. Trying my best not to spam or anything :P

Since it happens with speakers too your amp is defective.

post #2152 of 3639
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

 

Yes. 1/4 is fine. Although 4 pin XLRs are the way to go. They are balanced and thus offer a more neutral and balanced sound.

Using a balanced cable with an amp with a common ground (single ended, unbalanced amp) like the Mini-X will not change the sound quality. You gain none of the advantages of using a balanced cable with a balanced amp.


Edited by robrob - 10/31/13 at 2:25pm
post #2153 of 3639
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Originally Posted by fluidz View Post

Is there an advantage running the he-500 to the emotiva with a balanced cable opposed to just using the he-500s bare wires with banana plugs attached?

Btw, I've reordered a mini X directly from Emotiva as I simply couldn't find anything that would match it within budget. Fingers crossed it arrives in one piece lol.

The HE-500 cable is a balanced cable that is terminated in a single ended TRS plug. Cut off the TRS plug and you have a nice 4 twisted wire balanced cable so yes, put banana plugs on the HE-500 cable and you've got a balanced cable ready for speaker terminals.

 

The problem is the Emotiva Mini-X is a single ended (common ground) amplifier so you won't benefit from the balanced headphone cable at all. A better option is to convert a headphone extension cable into a speaker out adapter cable and keep your standard 6.3mm TRS plug on your HE-500 factory cable.


Edited by robrob - 11/1/13 at 9:39pm
post #2154 of 3639

I just got in my TRS to speaker taps cable from Ted @ Headphone Lounge, and the Mad Dogs 3.2 sound :eek: too much! :basshead: with the Mini-X.   

 

:D

 

These cans do not need this much power as compared to the LCD-2.  I now realize that my Centrance M8 is perfectly fine with the Mad Dogs.  But how about the Alphas?  hm...

 

Interestingly, my oldskoo DT990's kick ass with this amp.  These were one of my first cans and I picked them up originally thinking it was a "more fun" DT880.  I've never really enjoyed the 990's till now.

 

Now I'm looking around for sommathem "hard to drive" cans... bring 'em on!  The Mini-X to me totally obviates the need for balanced drive, given its dynamics.  

 

(thus sayeth this poor bastard who spent $1,400 on Headroom's Balanced Desktop amp back in the day)  

 

 

post #2155 of 3639
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post
 

I just got in my TRS to speaker taps cable from Ted @ Headphone Lounge, and the Mad Dogs 3.2 sound :eek: too much! :basshead: with the Mini-X.   

 

:D

 

These cans do not need this much power as compared to the LCD-2.  I now realize that my Centrance M8 is perfectly fine with the Mad Dogs.  But how about the Alphas?  hm...

 

Interestingly, my oldskoo DT990's kick ass with this amp.  These were one of my first cans and I picked them up originally thinking it was a "more fun" DT880.  I've never really enjoyed the 990's till now.

 

Now I'm looking around for sommathem "hard to drive" cans... bring 'em on!  The Mini-X to me totally obviates the need for balanced drive, given its dynamics.  

 

(thus sayeth this poor bastard who spent $1,400 on Headroom's Balanced Desktop amp back in the day)  

 

 

 

AD has the exact same drivers as MD so there won't be any differences or benefits if you say now that MD doesn't need this amount of power.  HE500 or HE6 will appreciate the Mini-X greatly.  ;)

post #2156 of 3639
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post
 

I just got in my TRS to speaker taps cable from Ted @ Headphone Lounge, and the Mad Dogs 3.2 sound :eek: too much! :basshead: with the Mini-X.   

 

 

Yeah Ted ( tedsheadfood @ http://headphonelounge.com ) does a good job with cables.... He is on point! Soft and flexible as well.

 

I got mine from him too for the lcd and plan on buying the same 1/4 inch interconnect you have from him as well for any other headphones I want to try on it.

 

 

I was going to go with the mad dogs too or a dt990 to use with the mini x.. but I am thinking about the Yamaha HPH-MT220 instead.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 11/2/13 at 12:22am
post #2157 of 3639

^deadie,  btw, do you experience any hiss/hum on the MD from the Mini-X?

post #2158 of 3639

Guys and gals,  

I was thinking out loud tonite.  For the ones among us who own HP amps, especially balanced, that have a bit of power output, maybe 1.5w to 2w @ 50 Ohms or so, 

  1. has any thought about or tried taking the signal from the balanced output and run a pair of super high efficiency speakers?  
  2. Will this be a safe thing to do?

 

I think this would be interesting. 

post #2159 of 3639
^can easily be done with some of the Audio-GD stuff
post #2160 of 3639
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post
 

I just got in my TRS to speaker taps cable from Ted @ Headphone Lounge, and the Mad Dogs 3.2 sound :eek: too much! :basshead: with the Mini-X.   

 

:D

 

These cans do not need this much power as compared to the LCD-2.  I now realize that my Centrance M8 is perfectly fine with the Mad Dogs.  But how about the Alphas?  hm...

 

Interestingly, my oldskoo DT990's kick ass with this amp.  These were one of my first cans and I picked them up originally thinking it was a "more fun" DT880.  I've never really enjoyed the 990's till now.

 

Now I'm looking around for sommathem "hard to drive" cans... bring 'em on!  The Mini-X to me totally obviates the need for balanced drive, given its dynamics.  

 

(thus sayeth this poor bastard who spent $1,400 on Headroom's Balanced Desktop amp back in the day)  

 

 

 

 

:blink:

 

Sorry, but in my experience - I find the exact opposite. 

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