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post #166 of 308

have you guys heard the stock fostex t50rp (not modded)? its the weirdest sounding headphone i have ever come across

post #167 of 308
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post

have you guys heard the stock fostex t50rp (not modded)? its the weirdest sounding headphone i have ever come across

 

I have not.  

post #168 of 308
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

 

I have not.  

 

 

well if in any case, you plan to get a modded fostex t50rp later, before modding it you can give it a listen. i dont get why some people rave about the stock t50rp, i think it sounds really weird, there are also some people who agree with me. 

post #169 of 308
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I don't feel it lacks impact.  It lacks punch and tightness though.  The bass is a little boomy with quite a bit of reverb

I think I meant punch, not impact. It's hard to pick words to describe a sound. I also think that reverb is also a part that makes these sound unnatural.

post #170 of 308
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Originally Posted by kimvictor View Post

I think I meant punch, not impact. It's hard to pick words to describe a sound. I also think that reverb is also a part that makes these sound unnatural.

Then I'll agree, the boomyness covers up a lot of the punch, so does the reverb :p  I'll agree that the bass can create an unnatural sound as well :)  beerchug.gif

post #171 of 308

I suspect a lot of these critical comments (many of them quite vague) are coming from users of other brands who have invested very heavily (both emotionally as well as financially) in very expensive iem's.

 

For potential buyers, don't worry about the smears you are reading; these sound great and you can buy a pair used/refurbished for $15.

post #172 of 308
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Originally Posted by newphones View Post

I suspect a lot of these critical comments (many of them quite vague) are coming from users of other brands who have invested very heavily (both emotionally as well as financially) in very expensive iem's.

 

For potential buyers, don't worry about the smears you are reading; these sound great and you can buy a pair used/refurbished for $15.

Try getting them for free even. Got girlfriend Sennheiser CX685s (Adidas) for working out. When she got the iPhone 5 she had no problem forking over the Earpods to me. :D 

post #173 of 308

I'm just saying price is not a reliable indicator of quality. 

 

I remember 20 years ago I was just getting into bicycles and of course campagnolo was the brand that european racers used. 

 

Unfortunately a friend of mine decided to drop the equivalent of a house payment on campagnolo's top tier component group, ostentatiously called "record," and it was a nightmare. It was impossible to keep the shifting and brakes in tune. He was literally adjusting his derailleurs (gear shifters) every day! It was just hilarious as he told me about how often he was mis shifting and how badly he thought his brakes felt!

 

I had a bike with shimano's budget component group and he was amazed that my bike shifted and braked so much more smoothly than his! He had paid 10X as much for inferior performance just to get a prestigious boutique label. 

 

That's why some members of this forum will resort to name calling about inexpensive equipement: they can't handle the fact that they paid 10X as much for 'phones of lower sound quality. 

 

You'll get bragging rights by purchasing expensive equipment, but there's no assurance that this pricey dicey will sound any better. 


Edited by newphones - 3/31/13 at 10:47pm
post #174 of 308
I wouldnt say its always that people are jelly. Some just really like their expensive equipment. We are on an enthusiast forum.

But the ear-pods does something many sub $40 iems dont(many, not all). A smooth sound that isnt harsh or fatiguing that fits many roles and genres.
post #175 of 308
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

I wouldnt say its always that people are jelly. Some just really like their expensive equipment. We are on an enthusiast forum.

But the ear-pods does something many sub $40 iems dont(many, not all). A smooth sound that isnt harsh or fatiguing that fits many roles and genres.

Exactly. I'd be hard pressed to find other $40 iems that perform this well. 

 

In all honesty, these are worlds better than the original iPod ear buds. If I had to put a price on this sort of performance, I'd put it around the $70-80 range. Not spectacular. It certainly won't come anywhere near multiple balanced armature IEM's or even single-BA iems. But, it's a great value for the price.

post #176 of 308
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Originally Posted by Winter Charm View Post

Exactly. I'd be hard pressed to find other $40 iems that perform this well. 

 

In all honesty, these are worlds better than the original iPod ear buds. If I had to put a price on this sort of performance, I'd put it around the $70-80 range. Not spectacular. It certainly won't come anywhere near multiple balanced armature IEM's or even single-BA iems. But, it's a great value for the price.

I have been reading this forum for the past several weeks, and have enjoyed doing so.

 

However, recently, I have begun to suspect that most of the posters claims cannot be verified in blind a/b testing. Almost all of the 'differences' esp. the 'improvements' are a placebo effect. If it's not a placebo effect, it is almost certainly due to playing music at a higher volume. That's why amps receive so much praise across the board for 'improving' sound: it makes things louder. 

 

The placebo effect in particular iis MOST likely to occur after buying a piece of expensive equipment; backwards rationalization is necessary to prevent yourself from feeling foolish for buying a product that's 10X the cost of a competing product. 

 

Without double blind testing and objective test data, it would be foolhardy to put any trust in forum posts.

 

As far as $70 or $80 'phones, I've tried the klipsch s4i, and they sound like garbage. The earpods are clearly superior. 

post #177 of 308
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Originally Posted by newphones View Post

I have been reading this forum for the past several weeks, and have enjoyed doing so.

 

However, recently, I have begun to suspect that most of the posters claims cannot be verified in blind a/b testing. Almost all of the 'differences' esp. the 'improvements' are a placebo effect. If it's not a placebo effect, it is almost certainly due to playing music at a higher volume. That's why amps receive so much praise across the board for 'improving' sound: it makes things louder. 

 

The placebo effect in particular iis MOST likely to occur after buying a piece of expensive equipment; backwards rationalization is necessary to prevent yourself from feeling foolish for buying a product that's 10X the cost of a competing product. 

 

Without double blind testing and objective test data, it would be foolhardy to put any trust in forum posts.

 

As far as $70 or $80 'phones, I've tried the klipsch s4i, and they sound like garbage. The earpods are clearly superior. 

 

 

well as for placebo and stuff, i would think illusions are more of a "problem". do i increase clarity on the headphone when the bass is reduced? is it more bass capable when the treble is reduced? does the headphone sound technically better when i mess with eq? will the 10 bucks headphone be called muddy when the same sound is presented in a more expensive headphone and be called smooth or non fatiguing? will harshness on 10 bucks headphone be called detailed or revealing if its presented in a more expensive headphone? and for the klipsch s4i, it shouldnt be 70 or 80 bucks, my friend got it brand new for about 40-50 bucks. i got my x10 brand new which is a higher model than the s4i for 100 bucks so yeah... 


Edited by reddragon - 4/1/13 at 4:17pm
post #178 of 308

they have okay sound quality but they start hurting after about an hour

post #179 of 308
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Originally Posted by wburton View Post

they have okay sound quality but they start hurting after about an hour

 

hurting as in wearing comfort or listening fatigue?
post #180 of 308
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hurting as in wearing comfort or listening fatigue?

comfort. the solid plastic shell doesnt help. at least they fit in my ears unlike the old ipod buds

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