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post #16 of 43
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Originally Posted by chococya96 View Post

Well to be honest with you, I just can't pin point the problem... its really frustrating really.

 

I'm using Intel core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz atm. Actually, I'll list full specs here:

  • Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
  • Intel core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz
  • 8GB RAM
  • GeForce GTX460
  • 2 x HDD (1TB and 500GB)
  • Nvidia/Realtek High Def Audio

 

Moreover, what I mean by "high" CPU is when my CPU usage is around 10% which, I think its not even high.

Firefox plugin uses the most CPU (5%) and when playing any media player/video player/games, it only uses 2~5% CPU.

 

So yeah.. even I understand your explanation, I still don't understand why this is happening to my PC.

 

On an i7, or an i3, 10% CPU utilization isn't high enough to be a problem. I still suspect your USB port, but CPU power isn't the problem by itself.

 

Unfortunately, I don't have any good ideas. You should try researching this elsewhere because somebody somewhere must have some answers. Have you considered an inexpensive add-in USB port?

post #17 of 43

I'm fairly sure this is a known issue for some E10s, the popping happens between sounds, it gets more noticeable on loud volumes, mine has been doing it since I've got it but it doesn't really bother me.

post #18 of 43
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Originally Posted by HamilcarBarca View Post

 

On an i7, or an i3, 10% CPU utilization isn't high enough to be a problem. I still suspect your USB port, but CPU power isn't the problem by itself.

 

Unfortunately, I don't have any good ideas. You should try researching this elsewhere because somebody somewhere must have some answers. Have you considered an inexpensive add-in USB port?

 

When you mean by "add-in" USB port, which one are you referring to? also if possible, can you link me to that product?

 

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Originally Posted by eltocliousus View Post

I'm fairly sure this is a known issue for some E10s, the popping happens between sounds, it gets more noticeable on loud volumes, mine has been doing it since I've got it but it doesn't really bother me.

 

I've been told that by many people and yeah... its true that I can put up with it.

 

Hell, I got used to it already that I don't even care right now.

 

But if its something that we can "fix" it, than I would like to at least make an attempt to fix it before giving up.

post #19 of 43

You're right, a fix would be a great, I believe it's a problem with older batches but I'm not certain of that, it's less noticeable with more effecient headphones obviously, as you'll need a lower gain to get your preferred sound output, with my HE-300s it's only slightly noticeable, with the LCD-2s it's quite loud, but only between songs, and as such is a small annoyance that I forget about quickly, I am certain that it doesn't affect the quality of the DAC/AMP in the E10 at all, I've used two other E10s that don't suffer from this issue (friends copies) and they all sound the same.

post #20 of 43
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Originally Posted by chococya96 View Post

When you mean by "add-in" USB port, which one are you referring to? also if possible, can you link me to that product?

 

I thought an add-in card might make a difference. I'm not sure. Search NewEgg, Amazon, or just about anyplace that sells hardware  for "usb card". From NewEgg,

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=usb%20card&bop=And&Order=RATING&PageSize=20

 

USB 3.0 won't do you any good. I don't see why it should hurt.

post #21 of 43
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Originally Posted by eltocliousus View Post

You're right, a fix would be a great, I believe it's a problem with older batches but I'm not certain of that, it's less noticeable with more effecient headphones obviously, as you'll need a lower gain to get your preferred sound output, with my HE-300s it's only slightly noticeable, with the LCD-2s it's quite loud, but only between songs, and as such is a small annoyance that I forget about quickly, I am certain that it doesn't affect the quality of the DAC/AMP in the E10 at all, I've used two other E10s that don't suffer from this issue (friends copies) and they all sound the same.

 

Yeah I'm pretty sure its not effecting the E10 quality at all. More like a "side" problem if you ask me.

 

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Originally Posted by HamilcarBarca View Post

 

I thought an add-in card might make a difference. I'm not sure. Search NewEgg, Amazon, or just about anyplace that sells hardware  for "usb card". From NewEgg,

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=usb%20card&bop=And&Order=RATING&PageSize=20

 

USB 3.0 won't do you any good. I don't see why it should hurt.

 

Oh so your talking about those... that means I have to take apart my desktop lol

 

So plugging it into 3.0 is a no-no?

post #22 of 43

USB 3.0 wouldn't change anything, the only difference versus USB 3.0 is a larger throughput through the port, no difference at all, plus the E10 isn't USB 3.0 anyway, as so it shouldn't as it doesn't use anywhere near enough data to saturate even a 2.0 port. 

post #23 of 43
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by eltocliousus View Post

USB 3.0 wouldn't change anything, the only difference versus USB 3.0 is a larger throughput through the port, no difference at all, plus the E10 isn't USB 3.0 anyway, as so it shouldn't as it doesn't use anywhere near enough data to saturate even a 2.0 port. 

 

Ah I see. I might as well plug it on 2.0 if 3.0 doesn't do anything.

 

UPDATE: I was just told by the seller to install ASIO4ALL to see if it will fix this popping issue. Now after doing some research about it, I still have NO IDEA how it works...  

 

Could anyone please explain how I can use this? I'm in total oblivious of using ASIO4ALL and reading threads about it just makes me more confused.

 

FYI, I've got foobar2000 v1.1.15 (I have no idea which components I need to install for ASIO4ALL) and ASIO4ALL v2.10 (Only the program itself; no ReWu or Off-line settings). From what I have found, I can use these two programs together to setup?

 

I'll make another thread on computing audio to see if I can get some help.

post #24 of 43
Thread Starter 

Alright I think I've just made a biggest discovery...

 

I just tried using E10 and my headphone on three different laptop including the previous one I've tested on and...

 

All three of them made the same popping sound like my desktop.

 

FML, does this mean the E10 itself is defective?

post #25 of 43
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Originally Posted by chococya96 View Post

Alright I think I've just made a biggest discovery...

 

I just tried using E10 and my headphone on three different laptop including the previous one I've tested on and...

 

All three of them made the same popping sound like my desktop.

 

FML, does this mean the E10 itself is defective?

 

It's a good indication the problem is the E10. You've tried a different USB cable?

post #26 of 43
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by HamilcarBarca View Post

 

It's a good indication the problem is the E10. You've tried a different USB cable?

 

Yeah, got couple of spares from my friend and it still made the popping noise.

 

Also tried using other headphones and even earphones, and the results were same.

 

I just issued a refund from the seller and they told me to send it back so that they can fix it or exchange for a new one.

post #27 of 43

I believe I have solved my popping problem on my Samsung S3.  In order to do it I had to root the phone, install SD speed boost app and set read speed to 2048kb.  The music will pop for about one or two seconds after I start a song but then its OK.  I'll report back if anything changes.
 

post #28 of 43
Thread Starter 

Bumping the thread for update.

post #29 of 43
Thread Starter 

I was wondering if this "popping" noise a.k.a jitter is a known issue for older batches only?

 

Or is it same for newer batches for E10 as well? (The one with gold jack and a word "Olympus" inscribed to it")

post #30 of 43

some times the noise is come from the PC, E10 is powered by USB and without build in battery, so there may have some strange noise if the power from the USB port is very dirty

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